ergen in the next hour >> you have taught me that charlie ergen is money good. >> ergen is one of the pioneers. i happen to personally like him. >> very impressive man. >> some people would say he has not taken advantage of opportunities to truly reward shareholderers over a long period of time. >> i'm sorry we didn't sell ourselves to at&t for a big number we could have bought ourselves back at a much lower number. >> really, what a terrible company. what what did i say i told the truth carl, you mentioned "new york times" and you mentioned fox on the other side of dish >> they were good numbers. dish continues to lose subscribers. 294,000 in the second quarter down that keeps getting worse. >> can you get that darn dish off my roof now that i'm switching to youtube for football i don't need a dish. >> i'm still worried about the stability of youtube. >> you got youtube replacing cable? >> i cut down a 200-year-old tree to get that stupid dish now i can't get it down. it looks horrible. youtube, i got the package for a good deal. >> david and i will come over -- >> be my guest >> i'l

and speaking of tv, billionaire charlie ergen wants to reunite his telecom empire by merging tv satelliteh with broadband company echostar. the merger would bring together two companies that used to be under the same umbrella 15 years ago. he had pun off echo star in 2008, but if the merger actually comes to fruition, it will exchange 2.85 shares of dish common stock for each share of echostar. well, dish is getting a nice pop on in this, it's up 9.7%. echostar is hitting a 5 52-week high, it's up 1.5. from your tv to your toaster, just about every appliance maker is getting more eco-friendly. while that may, of course, help the environment and bring down your electric bill, in some cases consumers are starting to notice a quality difference or a performance difference between these new green products and their predecessors. jeff flock is at an appliance store in new jersey with some insight on developing, i suppose, gap. jeff? [laughter] >> reporter: yeah, you know, liz, whether it's dishwashers that use a little bit less water or push for electric ranges like these new induction rangeto