i had the privilege of working with both walter, also with charlie firestone and now with our expanded interest among many other programs. it is great to be year. we met because we decided to visit to see what it would look like, you know, as the fighting ended. what does it look like to rebuild a society? and as part of that i met jerry on the trip. i had taken a lot of video because it is a pretty interesting place. when i played it back all layer was his voice. the rest is history. >> redoing in baghdad? >> this was 2009. we begin reaching out to sea as in silicon valley to start to have a conversation with them about how technology was transforming places that were not in their immediate court business. it was really being felt, and it was certainly on that list. certain parts of russia were on that list. and so eric was, i think, the very first fortune 100 ceo possibly from a technology company to land in baghdad. this was a really big deal for us because we were trying to connect the world of expertise around the technology with the world of expertise around geopolitics. >> what