then it was charlie frye. bruce grad grad, loved him. brady quinn, colt mccoy, brandon weeden, johnny hoyer, johnny manziel. big ben has faced 13 different he's 20-2 against cleveland. >> do we want a guy like him that can win? absolutely. he's won super bowls, division titles. he's done everything that you can do. so i think our team, our organization, we want to have a guy that we can say is a winning super bowl division quarterback at some point, and i think that's what we're going to get some day. >> i would like to see. that while the browns are off to the worst start, the cavs are tied for the best st franchise hit. cleveland is 9-1, and with a win tonight against the pace terse reigning champs can go from beg tied to having the best start in caps history. the thing is they will have to attempt that without lebron. lebron james will get some rest and sit out for the first time this season, the cavs and pacers tipping off at the top of the hour. >>> meanwhile we are awaiting word on the winner of the cy young award. voting was done