to ben stein, dagen mcdowell, charlie gasperino, daying, this gets to the idea of of serious spending cuts? >> it does, but you need-- the devil's in the detail, charles. and we will he be getting more details on the plan, and plans in the coming days, but if you want to have a really serious debt reduction plan, you're going to have to tackle medicare and social security and medicaid and that's just the fact of the matter. and they are trying to-- one thing that's really important in this, they're trying to cap spending as a percentage of our economy, when it got to 25% of gross domestic product under president obama. this tries to take it down in about seven years, below that mark, back to where we've been since world war ii, that's a huge step in the right direction. >> what's interesting, is that the president says everything is on the table, but he already accumulate out on friday and said that this wasn't on the trouble and this seems like a logical step. >> well, you know, i listened to what he said and i thought he was basically talking compromise here. listen, this deal i don