. >> charlie gasperino, talking to the head of gallop, the people, they've crunched the numbers and i don't know if there's anything to it, but that it would have to get over $5. and i think, take it to $5.30 a gallon. and we had them on fox business. and were it to resonate. now, that seems like an arbitrary figure to me, what do i know. you get it up to there, it doesn't matter how much over. what do you make of it. to-- >> he's saying resonate from a political standpoint in terms of votes. i mean, in terms of the economy, you know, i think it's going to have an impact when it's above 4.50. >> i think it would have an immediate-- >> and here is the thing though, these jobs numbers are really good. i mean, i always thought this was going to happen last year. i mean, it's been a delayed a year. last year, going up to 2011, and going into 2010. looked like a recovery and it didn't, a lot of obamacare and businesses scared about higher taxes. it's a political problem for republicans. >> you can see this sustaining? >> i think so. >> mr. lashinsky. >> it's wonderful to hear's charlie's a

>> well, sure, but i think that charlie is starting to get at it-- >> which charlie, gasperino or payneou're the only one that calls charles payne charlie. i would never call him charlie. >> neil: he prefers mr. payne, but-- that's what i would call him, yes, absolutely. but, low interest rates are part of it. and the other thing is where we are not seeing inflation is in wages. remember, we still have high unemployment. employers are not having to raise wages for their employees, right now. and by the way, this is not remotely a political issue or an ideological issue and there's no conspiracy here and that's what i think charlie gasperino had right. bernanke is not trying to work any schemes and the government is not trying to hide anything from us. there's a difference, but why is he doing what he's doing, and why is he doing, because, he knows, to some extent and knows about it, he's playing with fire here, why is he doing it? eplain it. >> and a little bit. and reason to a little bit. >> and what people are worried about, why is bernanke doing this? it is the absolute failure of fi

and fox business network charlie gasperino is here and he's going to sort it out for us. arlie, good to have you. >> governor. >> this was a pretty big deal in the financial-- >> oh, yeah, i remember when it hit the wires and the first thing i did was look at this and say, we have to cover this and figure out who greg smith is, and figure out why this man and why the new york times ran this. i mean, i think there's a couple of layers mere. you can find a disgruntled employee and makes a legitimate claim. and every firm, does that stand for the entire firm and ask yourself. why the new york times dignified this. put this on a very prominent place, and this is a big deal. >> mike: it wasn't just a letter to the editor. this was on the op-ed. >> between maureen dowd's column and tom freedman. >> mike: prominent and this is a quote. yet your clients some who are sophisticated and some who aren't, whatever brings the biggest profit to goldman. call me old-fashioned i don't like selling my client a product-- >> did it for 12 years. >> first of all, do we know much about greg smi

welcome charlie gasperino. >> mr. speak, you may remember that the president said atm's are job killers. s' right to an extent. machines make things more automated and people lose their jobs. when you say you'll increase the number of manufacturing jobs. how does it work? this is where automation is pretty big. >> the fact is you want to become the leading manufacturing company in the world which we have been for most of the last hundred years and you frankly want the most modern equipment. if you look at production, for example, of the boeing dreamliner, it's a stonishing efficient operation, and that's how you get high value added jobs and you want america to be the most productive country in the world and be independent in energy which will probably create in order-- >> and those manufacturing jobs being high value added jobs, there's less of them and takes people to do a single task. >> and any one task. you think of the entire world market as to where you want to go to. for example, we need to modernize the food

and charles payne, adam lasinski, charlie gasperino, i don't know, charles payne, i think we're having a little bit of an at this ti tit for ta what they'd done is put 100% tariff on chicken the feet. apparently chicken feet in the beer, nothing better than fried chicken feet, they call them paws there. >> neil: the free information on basic cable. >> you've got it. this is how the trade wars begin. >> neil: don't you find the timing weird. when we went down to the precious resource stuff that goes into plasma screens and a few days later, the chicken. >> absolutely, this is what i'm saying. we have to understand where we pick our wars, i mean, listen, he we don't have the guts to call them on currency manipulator. don't have the guts to go after the intellectual property that they steal so it boils down to chicken feet in mcdonald's and solar panel. >> it's not that, it's power, they finance our government in some ways, they're the-- they're going to call the shots in a lot of these. >> in other words, we're afraid to call out our banker. >> or else the banker will stop lending. >> i'

. >> bottom line, charlie gasperino, i'm looking at this and i'm saying, all right, well, you don't like the oil companies, you think they're run by a bunch of fat cats and greedy sob's and making money hand over fist and to charles point earlier and not getting any money from washington. no one is giving them any money that's in their-- >> that they're qualifying more. >> the point is that they're evil and companies that are losing money hand over fist are the new saints. >> well, i will say this and i agree with that point. and by the way, adam. if we drill today and the oil comes out five years from now, that's going to have an impact on oil, because oil is-- >> okay? we have a president and i'll tell you look at the verbatim what he said about global markets. we have a president that does not understand markets. if you start at the point where you don't understand supply and demand you're going to be on the side of solyndra and ideological. >> i think he understands better than-- i think he doesn't care? you're saying a demagogue. >> he thinks a demi gog. all right the irs is hiring

know, i think one of the things romney did well last night was connect, because it wasn't just charlie gasperinond a panel. it was three citizens, actually got to fire questions at the candidates, too, and he seemed to connect better than he has recently. >> that answer went on longer than we had time and he talked about his own family and five sons, he can only imagine what the father would have gone through and he would have gone through having to sacrifice one of our own children for the great country of the united states of america on the battlefield like that, so, you're right, he really had that emotional connection. >> alisyn: and maybe that sort of setting works for him, in terms of more one-on-one and governor huckabee once again didn't allow the candidates to go after each other, or to even mention each other, i think. >> dave: not at all. >> alisyn: that's right, because they didn't have to lob attacks and they were able to speak more plainly. >> clayton: and they could ask specific questions to candidates about specific issues surfacing the past week and a half and specifically newt

gasperino. also labor secretary under george bush and distinguished fellow and fox news contributor elaine chow and business owner dave mcarthur who owns and operates mcarthur's bakery in st. louis, missouri. >> charlie, you are going to be looking for specific things from these candidates tonight. tell me what you are hoping to hear them say? >> well, basically i want them to go beyond the numbers. i deal with numbers every day. these guys love to talk about numbers when they talk about the economy. i want to hear more than i am taking the corporate tax rate down to 20 percent to get jobs going. i want to see meat on the bones. >> secretary chow you have had long issues of labor to find a way to create jobs. specifically are there things that you are going to be listening for as these candidates talk to us? >> when i was talking to labor one of the primary concerns was the rate of job creation in our economy. the national unemployment rate is an alarmingly high 8.3 percent. we have over 12 million americans who are out of work. i hope tonight's questions and answers and how to stimulate job creation will be helpful to voters to make informed decisions this november. >> you are a small business owner

gasperino. also labor secretary under george bush and distinguished fellow and fox news contributor elaine chow and business owner dave mcarthur who owns and operates mcarthur's bakery in st. louis, missouri. >> charlie, you are going to be looking for specific things from these candidates tonight. tell me what you are hoping to hear them say? >> well, basically i want them to go beyond the numbers. i deal with numbers every day. these guys love to talk about numbers when they talk about the economy. i want to hear more than i am taking the corporate tax rate down to 20 percent to get jobs going. i want to see meat on the bones. >> secretary chow you have had long issues of labor to find a way to create jobs. specifically are there things that you are going to be listening for as these candidates talk to us? >> when i was talking to labor one of the primary concerns was the rate of job creation in our economy. the national unemployment rate is an alarmingly high 8.3 percent. we have over 12 million americans who are out of work. i hope tonight's questions and answers and how to stimulate job creation will be helpful to voters to make informed decisions this november. >> you are a small business owner