the origin story, the turning point usa, charlie kirk origin story really starts with fox.his first pre-turning point group, which was a very moderate republican group. a very room moderate republican ideas. he started by getting on to fox news show, and by getting driven by the chicago studio, and getting on air. his relationship on fox has been very tight. for foxes helped him a tremendous amount. i think that what you see is that as charlie kirk's views have turned from moderate republican issues around budget deficits, low taxation, and issues that republicans and conservatives have always held to be true, and they're sort of okay with a lot of moderates in general. they have turned very radical. i think that fox news was okay with that radical this until what we saw was that associations with very radical groups meant association with groups telling lies, associations with groups that were telling a lot of lies. this recent dominion lawsuit has told fox news that it will cost them a lot of money. >> yes. and you went right where i wanted to go, because my suspicion was

i want to thank our good friend charlie kirk for everything he has done to build turning point. it is incredible what he has done in a short period of time, into an incredible grassroots organization in the united -- into one of the most incredible grassroots organizations in the entire nation. the timing could not be better. this new project for mobilizing early voters will be a difference maker in the next election and make it a much more difficult job to cheat because we are going to swamp them. you know, when you start swamping them -- [cheers and applause] because they cheat. they do anything they can because they don't have policies. open borders, no voter id, high taxes, high interest rates. the only way they win is by cheating. we are also delighted to be joined by representative matt gaetz. where is matt gaetz?

headliner here is an affirmation of trump being the person to beat in this race and it sews that charlie kirk where the base is and that's firmly behind donald trump. >> that's an important context there. one mhere on desantis. the campaign shed some staff. fewer than ten, reportedly. the desantis campaign is 30 points by the latest morning consult poll, more than 30 points behind trump's campaign. campaign reshuffles happen. but we are still five weeks out from the first debate. six months out from the first votes in iowa. what does this mean at this moment for desantis? >> you make a good point that it's early in the race. desantis pulled in the second most fundraising behind trump with $20 million but he was still $15 million short from what trump pulled in at 35. so that's a pretty significant difference there. and as you mentioned, he so cutting staff. a big concern is whether he could face bankruptcy, insolvency is certainly a question here because he has only pulled in about 15% of donations from small donors, and that's a huge difference from trump, whose average campaign donation is

charlie kirk. they were referred to as, quote, purveyors of hate.mber was later terminated by asu leading lewis to say he's had enough. >> the university is just intolerable of the voice from the right, and we learned that when you put on this event with d -- event with charlie kirk and dennis prager, it just drove them crazy. number one, they don't want donors to meddle with the classroom, and they don't want conservative speakers to speak on campus. >> reporter: and in a statement to fox news, arizona state says the university has a history of allowing free speech and that the media reports about the firing of lewis' staff member have been one-sided and inaccurate. writing in part, quote: mr. from lewis decided to discontinue funding that paid for more than $300,000 per year in salary and benefits costs for the executive director of the now-dissolved center. but the speaker series and classes that were created at the center will continues at asu, and the faculty who delivered that content through the center will continue to do so. in the meantime,

charlie kirk is a christian well-known. he does not use his cell phone. he says it is a result of dennis. dennis has influenced me to have a sabbath. he is a devout christian. but from friday night until saturday night, he leaves the world. and he actually talks about it in his lectures. it is one of the 10 commandments, the only ritual in the 10 commandments. i wish everybody had a sabbath in america. host: a couple of years ago, dennis prager joined look tv at hillsdale college in michigan for a three hour discussion with students and with viewers. if you want to see that go to book tv.org, type in his name, dennis prager, then you can watch all three hours of that. >> that was something. host: let's hear from plainview, new york. good afternoon. caller: i just want to say i have often listen to you on the radio. as a boy from brighton, the son of auschwitz survivors, i just wanted to say that i agree with you wholeheartedly that the left is destroying our culture. and i think most likely it is planned -- i do not think by joe biden, because i do not th

we learned that when we put on this event with charlie kirk and dennis prager and it drove them crazyo metal with the classroom and they don't want conservative speakers to speak on campus and if they do, they try to limit what they say and they don't want them to say anythingd offend some of their students. >> jesse: but they want your money. they want your money no questions asked, no strings attached. officially, the official that you talked about addressed arizona state lawmakers yesterday about how bad it really was at this school. >> the barrett faculty took their condemnation campaign. the faculty viciously and publicly attacked lewis center donors. the barrett dean censored speech. >> laura: tom, censored speech, attacked the donor. that's you. >> that's right. having a problem that we have here is that the faculty at most public universities are given a complete free rein in the classroom and a lot of them are radical. a lot of them don't really want to teach. but they've also redefined academic freedom. that used to mean faculty's right to pursue truth in their discipline wi

charlie kirk and dennis prager. he doesn't stop there.signed a petition condemning the event and refer to the speakers as "purveyors of hate." even though that event took place without disruptions, lewises staff member later terminated by asu leaving lewis to say, he's had enough. >> i think the problem we have here is faculty at most public university given complete freedom reign in the classroom. a lot of them are radical and a lot of them don't want to teach. but they have also redefined academic freedom. >> in a statement to fox news, arizona state said the university has a history of allowing free speech and that media reports about the firing of lewis and staff member inaccurate. mr. lewis decided to discontinue funding more than $300,000 per year in salary and benefit cost for the executive director of the now dissolved center appear they go on to save the speaker series and classes will continue at the school. back out here live, lewis and arizona state have both removed any association with each other off of each other's respecti

that's what charlie kirk talks about, returning america to a simpler time.r culture you want, as exotic, as some sort of thing you want to be a part of but you don't want to learn about. you have these maga celebrities who are black showing up to turning point conferences and doing selfie stands with all the older white voters who show up. it's an exotic thing. i want to be a part of it, i want to be excited, but i don't want to understand it. >> yeah, look, listen. i lived through the '90s. i'm generation x. that's not what the '90s were like at all. let's talk about this. what they're trying to do is appeal to young people. but they keep doing policies young people hate. if you look at how people feel about things like abortion. age 18 to 29, 83% want abortion to be legal. you can go through anything, climate, all these issues. but you look at who young people are. the median age of white americans is 43. the median age of latinos, african americans, asian americans, is under 35 or in their 20s. african americans are one of the youngest groups in the count

his staff members for organizing an event at the school to host conservative speakers including charlie kirkzen asu faculty members condemned that event and referred to the speakers as quote purveyors of hate. louis's staff member was term noveltyed by as arcs leaving lewis to say he has had enough. >> they are intolerable of voices from the right. we learned that in spades when we put on this event and it drove them crazy. number one, they don't want donors to meddle with the classroom and they don't want conservative speakers to speak on campus. >> in a statement to fox news asu says mr. lewis decided to discontinue that funding that paid for more than 300,000 per year in salary and benefits cost for the now executive director of the now dissolved center and went on to say the speaker sessions will continue at the school. in the meantime lewis and arizona state have both removed any association with each other off their respective websites. send it back to you. >> dana: thank you. money talks. money walks. >> bill: before we go we have something special today lined up here. we have a surpr

and then charlie kirk goes i have this huge network, no one's following or retweeting me?ow is this possible. >> kayleigh: crazy. i did talk to a white house digital individual from the trump administration i said did you ever reach out to a social media site saying take down a response. his response was never. >> steve: how can twitter or any other social media company do stuff. remember, there is no expectation of the first amendment rights when it comes to public companies. >> kayleigh: exactly. >> steve: when you sign up for twitter, you're saying i'm going to go along with all your rules. you are a private company and so they can do whatever they did and now, thanks to this judge in louisiana, it's been laid bare what they did. >> brian: but you know mark zuckerberg's agenda. his agenda is not transparency. >> kayleigh: he's a leftist. >> brian: he didn't invite matt taibbi to find out what's going on in the 2020 election. he didn't say check out my books. elon musk said check it out let the facts lead you where they lead you and took to independent journalists, or th

turning point usa action conference, the conservative organization focused on college campuses by charlie kirk that's been stalwart in its support for president trump. as a vocal critic of the former president, i'm sure you were not surprised to face a sort of hostile crowd there. in fact, you were booed and jeered. whyy did you decide to engage with this group, and how do you see resonating with younger audiences, particularly younger republicans? >> well, i wish you could have been there with the younger audience. i actually got stuck in the airport trying to get here because of the storms. it took a long time, and so i was in the airport with all these young people, and we were in line for a long time taking photographs, having conversations, andsa that's why i'm there, to engage that generation. i relate to them, i communicate with them, i understand but also listen to them. and so it was a great interchange. now, you're right, you know, we had some r boos out there and, guess what? they were not from the college-age kids, they were from the adults. [laughter] and so they didn't set the ex

turning point usa action conference, a conservative organization focused on college campuses by charlie kirk that's been stalwart in its support of president trump. as a vocal critic i'm sure you were not surprised to have a hostile crowd there, booed and jeered. and why do you engage with this and with audience. >> i wish you could have been there with the younger audience and i actually got stuck in the airport trying to get here, because the storms, took a long timement i was in the airport with all of these young people and we were in line for a long time, taking photographs, having conversations and that's why i'm there, to engage that generation and i relate to them. i communicate with them. i understand, but also listen to them. and so, it's a great interchange. you're right, you know, we had some boos out there and guess what? they were not from the college age kids, they were from the adults. [laughter] >> and so they didn't set the best example, but why i went there though was just i said, i go -- i'll defend my position in a place that you have an opportunity to make your case and

having a hard time even holding on to that position, just a few minutes ago to chance to talk to charlie kirk. he puts on this event, he himself as a donald trump endorsers but i asked him, when you think the rest of the field and particularly ron desantis would need to do to shake this race up and try to track down the front runner? here's what he told me. >> if you want to be trump, not that i want to give advice what do you do? you have to dominate him. you know what even governor desantis, my recommendation to him and i told him this privately and publicly, he showed up to this event. he should've played in the blog and many should have taken questions and not even giving a speech. said hey, come to the front of the line if you disagree. that is kind of like the trump, kaitlan collins energy words like i go into the lions den, i tried to assert dominance. it is almost a who is the alpha and right now trump is the off of the republican party, these other candidates still kind of seem stuck in a policy debate. it's not a policy debate. >> alex that talks with so much what i hear from conser