. >> tucker: charlie lynn duff spent many years at the maritimes and left to become one of the last independentas an american can be, a long conversation with him about his life. an interesting story about a man who worked at changing light bulbs on the top of the empire state building. here is it. ♪ ♪ you wrote one of my favorite pieces i have ever read in any newspaper ever. it was this little place, and he were driving through the city and he looked up at the top of the building and there was a radio tower that of course has a light bulb on the top so the planes don't fly into it and you ask yourself, i wonder who changes that light bulb? >> that was the empire state building. and it still had the bulb. >> tucker: you found the guy who goes all the way to the top. >> that guy's name is tom sowell abid. at the top of the empire state building is a radio tower, and when the needle is on, you will fry up there. google the empire state building. you will see that there are some stairs on the needle, and then there is a crows nest with no sides. so it is just a circular platform and a free-for-al