better forty five new people on food stamps i know less can go on and frankly we're out of time charlie mcgrath right awake news dot com. president obama of course entrenched in the late talks with top senate leaders on the debt as charlie was talking about a pair of meetings yesterday they're trying to resolve the stalemate on raising the country's debt ceiling that now by the way fourteen point three trillion dollars so far nothing's worked and with the looming august second deadline there's worry it won't happen some saying it shouldn't happen and still others who say this is all a big show designed by politicians who want to play to their bases pushing the problems of the last minute when we really are backed into a corner lauren lyster spoke to dean baker about this he is the co-director of the center for economic and policy research she started it she wanted to get from him his take on exactly what's going on here. well we're close a lot of political theater and certainly cancer walked out last week said their campaign is tax increases the clues political theater i'm sure planned i want t