exciting, larry, when he shared the stage not with his long-time business partner and vice chair, charlie munger, who is 95 years old and it wouldn't have made sense for him to make the trip to omaha, but he shared it with greg abel, a vice chairman and also ceo and head of berkshire hathaway energy. there is greg on your screen with me about a year ago. i got to tell you, i thought it was very interesting, abel answered some questions but he also disagreed a little bit with buffett, when buffett defended share buy-backs as a way of distributing cash but abel said you know, when you use financial engineering like the airlines did, he didn't say the airlines but i think that was sort of the subtext here, it's a little extreme, quote, and too cute instead of using their balance sheet to leave a cushion, they neglected to build a cushion. do you think, because succession did not come up, that that was the underlying meaning that had greg abel onstage, he's the one? >> i think geography played a role, too. he was able to drive down from des moines without needing to involve lots of other people but