>> once i heard dizzy gillespie, charlie parker, tad namron, got in 52nd street, phony i.d.d music. >> that was it. >> i hated music, hated piano lessons. >> quick question, do you write for a specific artist or for yourself? >> no. i think when you have an artist, like we had with dionne warwick, you kind of write it like you're tailoring clothes. you see more of what she can do, what she can wear. how she can -- how flexible she is, how wide the range is. >> get into her voice. >> and then you can -- that's a great way to go. when you have an artist. and then writing for specifics. i like that a lot. like when we did "promises promises" we had to write that the songs would match what neil simon's book said. >> we've got to go, but before we do, at the top of the hour -- before we do, we've got to bring up hal david, obviously. an extraordinary partnership. a rough ending. i talked about less than none and mccartney, it's hard being stuck in a room with a piano for a long time, but obviously you guys together were an extraordinary partnership. >> i feel very, very badly for