charlie rangel in the course of this -- the rhetoric got quite over the top. charlie rangel at one point compared mayor koch to bull connor. because he was mad. and what he was really mad about was, you know, he told at one point you made me a district leader again. i have to be here fighting for the dam hospital and i could be a lot more effective paying attention to the business of the ways and means committee in washington for the city. so, ed has a strong sense of justice. would seem to be the right managerial decision. but at the same time in terms of the politics of the city, in terms of the politics of race in the city, it was a decision that political thought that the 6.0 is a would have cost to fix up the hospital, which eventually actually they spent more in an affluent time someone spent a six-month dollars and there's a clinic that lumbee runs in the basement of what is now condos. >> it was a very painful moment in time. you have to understand that new york city then had seven people -- city hospitals and no other city in the country, chicago, l.a

and i think that he brings up some really interesting point because charlie rangel would offern he was about to be censured by the full house, he was arguing that he had not received any personal enrichment, no money, no actual dollars have gone into his pocket which was his definition of corruption. he didn't get any money but i think that there's very few regular americans who would look at the host of conduct that mr. rangel was ultimately found to have engaged in and things thinks it was and corrupt so now i might differ from the keynote speaker to say that it isn't all about the money sometimes it is also about the prestige. sometimes because for mr. rangel he wanted the lasting legacy to new york and then there's the $30 million to the new york city public-school so it wasn't about mr. rangel personally getting money and then you have other public officials engaged in wrongdoing. not for money but to have become perhaps cover-up other misconduct like john ensign hill calvo i think the department of justice isn't taking this position most americans would also find scott. s

and i think that he brings an interesting point because charlie rangel would argue he was and corrupt. even on the last day when he was about to be censured by the full house, he was arguing that he hadn't received any personal enrichment. no money, no actual dollars had gone into his pocket which was his definition of corruption. he didn't get any money but i think that there's very few regular americans that would look at the host of conduct and mr. trinkle was ultimately found to have engaged in and think that it wasn't corrupt. in that way i might differ from the keynote speaker to say it isn't all about the money sometimes it is also about the prestige sometimes because for mr. rangel he wanted to be the center which was the lasting legacy to new york and then the 3 million to the new york public schools, so it wasn't about mr. rangel personally getting money, then you have other public officials engaged in wrongdoing not for money but perhaps to cover up their other misconduct like john ensign who i think although the department of justice isn't taking this position most

charlie rangel would argue he wasn't corrupt.ven on the last day when he was censured by the full house, he was arguing he did not have any personal enrichment, no money, no actual dollars have gone into his pocket, which is his definition of corruption. but i think there's few americans who would look at the host of conduct that mr. rangel was ultimately found to have engaged in an think that it wasn't corrupt. so in that way, i might differ from our keynote speaker to say this and all about the money. sometimes it's all about the prestige. as for mr. sub ip one of the rangel center which would be the legacy to new york and the $30 million to new york city public schools. it wasn't about mr. rangel personally getting money. you have other public officials engaged in wrongdoing up for money, but perhaps to cover up other misconduct like john and then, why think over the department of justice is not taking this position, most americans would find was corrupt. i think you have to look at corruption as members of congress and member

when charlie rangel got into trouble for raising money come he forgot to get the waiver.all of those issues regarding whether or not when he got the million dollars from the rangel center firm iceberg, but because steve boyer went and got waivers, they were allowed to raise money from folks so he could go play golf. and that seems like a kind of conflict of interest we would like to see. yet we see more and more of this. many members of congress have these charitable foundation. orrin hatch from utah has the utah family foundation and he gives a lot of money to it. pharmaceutical companies. pharmaceutical come needs have found mr. hatch to be incredibly favorable to pharmaceutical interests. they are not giving money because they're facing utah appeared at what senator hatch to keep up in a band that is something troubling, although i agree it's a difficult thing to get that criminally. this is where you could have much greater ethics enforcement at a different level, but sadly we do. >> mr. smith, do you want to weigh in on that? >> just to complicate matters further, an

a look at the money he contributed to democrats including charlie rangel $24,000, lautenberg $12,000. harry reid just over $10,000. former senator ted kennedy $7,000. kristin gillibrand of new york and anthony weiner. more from the "new york daily news". eustis from new orleans. since we have heard from you. caller: been some time but i had to call in for donald trump. there was the statement by trump about obama being a crook or mobster in chicago but in new when the mafia control consumption i'm sure he had to meet some of the mobsters and he sounds like one. the image is not really good and we are just waiting for the nomination day. host: don't be a stranger. phone again. another tweeter saying yes another successful businessman for u.s. president as if bush wasn't enough. he bankrupted everything that he touched. kathleen parker reality tv g.o.p. says a number of republicans declaring themselves potential candidates is looking like a conga line without music hopefully unnoticed is brilliant dark horse pwaebiding his time. schumer the miracle would occur and the candidate would em

. >> charlie rangel would argue he was not corrupt. he said even on the last day when he was about to be censured by the full house, he was arguing he had not received any personal enrichment, no actual dollars had gone into his pocket, which was his definition of corruption. he did not get any money. but there are very few regular americans that would look at the conduct mr. riegle was found to have engaged in and think it was not corrupt. in that way, a mate -- i may differ from the other speaker to say sometimes it's not about the money, sometimes it is about the prestige. >> you can watch this event tonight at 8:00 eastern on c- span2. >> up next, the assistant secretary of state for the economy and business affairs talks about the korean free trade agreement and u.s. jobs. his remarks followed secretary clinton's comments to told korean business leaders that the obama administration expects the agreement to pass before the end of the year. this was hosted by the woodrow wilson center and is about one hour and 15 minutes. [captioni