to bring up navy s.e.a.l.s, both of you in the chapters of your book talk about the movie with charlie sheennow how many guys enlisted in the military. talk to me about the impact as to why you joined. >> graduating with a 1.7 gpa, one of the smartest on the planet, it was just one of those things i kind of had to do. >> barely made it through, but i think that the explosions of the guns, all that stuff, i really believe that those guys, the little rockets on motorcycles and stuff like that, you know, cool sniper rifles. >> never, never. >> 24 hours later, it's like hey, i have to do that. >> i don't know, my audi and i called it the saving private ryan move. you get motivated to go join them. >> i'm a little bit younger than some of you, but i was in high school and it was like hey, there was no way the generations of americans would fight this war like this and would not be a part of it. >> you mentioned this and talked about it a little bit in your chapter. he's a born and bred individual. >> it was that burning desire to go once or. honestly i went and prior to 9/11 but that's what i wan