>> my name is charlie walker. some of you may know me. i'm having a problem here in san francisco as being the president of the truckers and contractors association, and we sign ourselves -- find ourselves back in the stone age . san francisco is spending probably about $100 billion building tunnels and doing construction work in san francisco, and there's not three black contractors in a contractor relationship with the city and county of san francisco. i was out on a job the other day and one of the contractors bidded a job with bart. the job was about $20 million and they have some 10% or 12% minorities. what has happened over the last 10 or 15 years is that everyone is taking the place as a minority, but minorities don't include black people no more. because all white contractors now say i got all the minorities you need. got asians, latinos, so forth and so on. but it don't include black people. and what -- the information i need from you, your agency, is how many african people in the city -- african-american people in the city and