war thing right and you had which of those groups was charlie wilson where we supported. the indigenous population which you had to get there and the i mean there's a there's a fantastic book by steve cole which goes into this in a you know a great degree about what was bin laden's actual role and al qaeda the al qaeda subsequent you know called al qaeda group actual role in the fight against the soviet union and big one was a terrible military commander i mean just awful he was more of a post here you know and he like to make himself out to be this fellow who you know beat back the soviets but really what he did was get a bunch of his people killed for very little reason i interrupted you and it sounds my apologies you were you were saying that the bush administration didn't take seriously this ragtag band the right and there was the sense i mean there's a there's a the washington post article that's been overlooked by many many people that came out around january of two thousand and one was talking about the bush national security team and it didn't talk about this abou

i mean, ev before that, when engine charlie wilson who eisenhower named to defense secretary, said what's good for gm is good for america, and vi versa, he was ridiculed because stpldeodt is good for the big corporation in terms of profits is not necessarily good for workers, even though at that time gm was unionized and engine charlie's words more likely the fact then than they are right now. the fact is for the last 30 years america has seen corporations do better and better and better and yet the median wage has gone absolutely nowhere, adjusted for inflation. most people are more insecure in termof their jobs and their benefits are drying up. corporate profits should not necessarily co at the expense or bint,t exactly what has happened and the bain framework, the bain strategy is at the center of this strategy overall. >> harvest is a very interesting word that he used. it's kind of like ling not a few years ago, you know, the term "out of the box." i remember back in the '80s when farming wasn't too bad and a certain player harvested so many numbers or we're going to gon and harvest

a lot of people laugh over engine charlie wilson who is the secretary of defense under eisenhower. they always mangled the quote. they say what is good for general motors is good for america. now, he said what is good for america is good for general motors and vice versa. what he said is the fate of the company and the fate of the country were inextricably linked, when one does well, the other day as well, not smash and grab. >> another question is another thing that really annoys me is every time i buy something it says made in china. so i hate seeing that and that is why that's something that i just have a very strong feeling about making it products. this whole thing was becoming dependent upon china is really a problem. and the other problem is because of the way a lot of businesses operate come you can't compete with china and it's very expensive to produce domestic products in the united states. there's not that many companies who do that. there are small businesses. and you know, a lot of people in the news say we can just cut off -- we could say no to china whenever we want

the independent folks that look at ads say look at charlie wilson out there in ohio.hey've had to take that ad down because it is not truthful. and so we want to tell the truth to american people that the only people that put a tax on the middle class, obama care. that, according to the congressional budget office, is a big tax on middle class and it's $716 billion that the democrats took out of medicare and spent on obama care. >> let me ask you about fund-raising here. in august, democrats outraised you almost 2-1. i was surprised by that. you guys are in the majority, are you not? usually if you're in the majority, what's going on? >> i was a small business owner for 22 years. you don't get to spend gross, you get to spend net. it's what cash you have after your costs. we're $9.8 million cash on hand today ahead of the democrats. we have $49.8 million in the bank -- >> money follows momentum though, does it not? >> they've outraised us different months of the other. we've outraised them other months of the year. but the momentum doesn't follow money if you didn't k

republican party, what quite eisenhower did in the selection of vice president, in 1952 being charlie wilson and other businesspeople, he is somebody who greatly admired the private sector of america and look for ways to delegate the private sector in his era and that is my response. what would you say, jean? >> i think i would assert the -- rule of this point. some of you in the audience may be old enough to remember him. he played first base with the senators back in the 1930s. he was a big role. he could move around very much but he always loved the american league's and one time a newspaper report said how can you possibly leave the american league failed when you are immobile in some respects? i think it's pretty simple. if you don't touch the ball you cannot make an error. so i think i will pass. [laughter] >> he was a heck of a hitter. >> the next question is from our audience. >> i just finished reading the book that talks about the role of the former presidents helping the current presidents regardless of party and you talked about how eisenhower helped kennedy and nixon and johnson

i remember the late congressman charlie wilson talked about afghanistan.ed folks out the first time, he said now what are we going to do? naturally we always -- somebody else's problem. what more do you want us to do? then we get upset when we see this happens. it's a collective issue here. i take issue with her saying that. >> i want to thank torie clark. >>> we want to bring you breaking news from the pentagon. marine reinforcements are heading to benghazi right now. let's head to barbara starr at the pentagon. >> reporter: two u.s. officials are confirming that marines are on the way to benghazi. this will be an anti-terrorism security team, a fast team, they are called. they are going there to reinforce the diplomatic installation there. you saw secretary of state clinton has asked for additional security. the president has said there will be additional security at u.s. installations around the world. and after what happens happened at benghazi, marines now on the way. these are the very specific marine corps embassy teams that are structured just for

dwight eisenhower did in his selection of vice presidents, you know, blackstone in 1952 picking charlie wilsony who greatly admired the private sector of america and looked for ways to delegate authority to the private sector in his era. now, that is sort of my response. what would you say, gene? >> guest: well, i think i would assert the zeke manure rule at this point. some of you in the audience may be able to remember him, he played first base for the washington senators back in the 1930s. diseek -- zeke was a big rolely poly fella, but he always led the american league in fielding. and one time a newspaper report said, zeke, how can you possibly lead the american league in fielding, you're immobile there at first base. [laughter] and he said it's perfectly simple, if you don't touch the ball, you can't make an error. so i think i'll pass. [laughter] >> guest: so will i. [applause] >> guest: he's also a heck of a hitter. >> host: next question here from our audience. >> i just finished reading the presidents club which talks about the role of form per presidents helping current presidents r