but charlie parker is with the word genius means. he not only was there a remarkable what instruments but embodied what the power is which is the ability to be able to play and hear. much of his early life was learning how to hear because a jazz musician has the context that it's improvising and to add to that the digital speed that is going on all around them. some charlie parker became of that ability to the it's not magic, but people don't usually know that that is what a person has to do. >> is all jazz improvisers? >> no but a majority of it is. some people have written composed pieces and which every note that you hear has been previously written and the players are actually performing this written conversation -- composition they don't make anything up they just covered it with different nuances and so the artistry is like that of an actor. if you play hamlet you are going to say to be or not to be. but it is the way you say it that makes it artistic. a jazz musician is like an actor that has been reacting to other actors and

>> i mean, that was a part of it, charlie, yes. but also not dealing with my emotions and not understanding my emotions, along with all of the successes came more collections. >> more demands? >> at that moment, i was producing 32 collections a year between the galliano and half of dior, and each collection would comprise of up to a thousand pieces, which would you like me to run through the collections? >> no. i will take your word and your friend's word that you were very, very, very good. but i also know that during that period between 2007 and, you know, there were many people concern about you, concerned about addiction, concerned about drugs, concerned about alcohol, concerned about binges and concerned about a guy who would be missing in action and also know that, you know, that two people who meant a lot to you came to you and tried to intervene, and literally an intervention to say you were destroying your life and career. am i right? >> i wouldn't call it an intervention. >> rose: what would you call it? a warning? >> the

. >> good morning, charlie. a lot of information about government snooping and surveillance on all kinds of things including the internet and phone records. >> they not only involve the phone records of many of us. >> the obama administration's top official says the tracking is legal and necessary. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. the white house insists we're not talking about a dragnet congress. people want to know more about it. the obama administration has already had to admit about the sweeping details. as for information about the new searches, they prompted james clapper to release a statement. he said, and i quote, information collected under this program is among the most important and valuable foreign intelligence information we collect and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats. clapper also said leagues about the surveillance are reprehensible. prism has never been disclosed before. the national security agen

should lose is a big bundle of freedom charlie go ahead jump in but look part of charlie look at the case very carefully i have not seen you may not like the program and its a fair policy debate but this is something that came under the bush administration a republican administration was then carried on after in a little hot election by a democrat a ministration it had oversight of the congress its had oversight by the judiciary so the constitution is was supposed to protect us from the law. we. are going to lose the people we have in power not all of it i haven't seen yet any abuse no you know you may argue as to what is protected. information what is not my understanding telephone records telephone numbers is not protected under the fourth amendment so until i see something that's going anywhere you go then yeah go ahead go ahead jump in let's make this let's make this concrete let's make this concrete section two fifteen of the patriot act allows the government to get a court order to require a telephone company or any other company to produce any tangible thing as long as that th

charlie? norah? >> bob, thanks. >>> with us, our senior corresponde correspondent, john miller, former fbi assistant director. good morning. >> morning. >> are there more details about the thwarted plots that if we understood them, we would know how vital the surveillance is? >> well, i think in a closed briefing, they'll get into exactly which part of which program picked up which plot. but when you look at the 50 plots, each one is different. i mean, if you look at the zazi case, that was about to happen. had it not been for the nsa program, that plot would have likely gone bombs on the subway. if you look at other plots, they were at various stages of planning, but they still demonstrate if you were scanning the horizon, would this program pick it up? the question we would ask, if there was a plan to blow up the boston marathon and it was being planned in a foreign place as opposed to in boston, would this program have picked it up? and i think that's the question that they were trying to get in f

. >> good morning, charlie. lot of new information on government snooping or surveillance, to all kinds of things on the internet. >>> new facts this morning about the federal government secret surveillance efforts. not only involve the phone records of million of us. a program called prism collects data from the internet. >> the tracking is legal and necessary according to an analyst. major garrett from the white house. >> reporter: we're not talking about a surveillance dragnet, but congress wants to know more. they admit to secret phone tracking and declassifies, under pressure, details about the program. searches prompted the director - of national intelligence, james clapper to release a statement saying it is legal, and i quote, "information collected under this program is among the most important and valuable foreign intelligence information we collect. and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats." clapper also said leaks dachhav been disclosed before the national security agency alre

thank you. >> okay, charlie. >> rose: back in a moment. stay with us >> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> a funky pop jazz number... >> rose: bill hader is here, best known for his work on "saturday night live." his new york city nightlife correspondent stefan became a popular presence on "weekend update. of he is admired to his uncanny impressions. in the end of may, he left "s.n.l." after eight seasons. i am pleased to have him on the show for the first time, welcome. >> thank you very much. >> rose: you just said exactly what i do. right out of the gate i come out of question on everybody's mind-- why are you leaving "saturday night live"? >> i am leaving "saturday night live--" it kind of came from a really, you know, pragmatic thing of my wife and i deciding we have two kid and we wanted to move to california. we needed more space. and we're constantly traveling to california. she's a director. and then it just turned into a thing of, okay, we've got to move to l.a. can i still do the show and live in l.a.? i

charlie hasn't saidnything this program. thesethings are concerning, and the regulations and the rules have to be handled more carefully. when i see things like -- do you want it there or not? >> yes, want it there. there's never been, in the history of -- >> we have to participate in the insurance question, but your insurer has got to see i neil. >> d't you see where this is going? >> all i'm saying is corporations have this data, too. everybody is collecting. >> keep giving it up, keep giving it up. >> how can we be empowering one central agency >> i'll give you one reason, and that's because federal employees in 2011 owed 3.5 billion in xes. these are pt office employees owing taxes, their wages weren't garnished because the ght hand didn't talk to the left hand. >>ow you're just showing off. >> you're saying big government is stupid. >> i say we yell at them when the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and then we yell at tem whenhey put it all in one place. >> but they screw up when they put it in one pl

charlie, i have served eight years in the white house for two presidents. i am done with that in washington. >> rose: sherman like i am done with washington? >> i am finished, over, don't want to go back. >> rose:. >> i loved being in a city where you can get things done, and put points on the board. >> rose: fair enough. let's assume it is broken, can't put points on the board, all of that. >> and you are doing exactly what you want to do, fair enough and i am hearing you it is a laboratory for government is exactly what it is. >> yes. >> rose: can washington be fixed? do you see the advantage of what you have learned in chicago and say what is happening in chicago can be applied in washington? >> well,. >> rose: and fix the country. >> i mean there are a couple of things i am processing on substance also. look, i started off with a business plan and we did a plan for our ten years of economic growth in the city and we are going to go succinctly through it, investing in our infrastructure, our parks, our schools, our water system, our roads and the largest

charlie: you do not want to get mixed up with eric schneiderman. [ laughter ] charlie: john corzine willvilly. this is two years after the fact. big donor to president obama. democrat. do you think that there was something politicaa here that it took this long to come up with pretty mild charges? >> obviously, with all that is going on, you cannot discount that possibility. it is unusual for a case like this to be brought. maybe it could be criticism about going after right wing groups. it also could come about because of this resistance to admit or deny. right. we have judges who have now questioned whether you should do that. we have judges refuse to take settlement whether you admit or deny. a failing mild charge for the level of money that was lost here. charlie: it looks a complete dysfunction. >> correct. what it will mean is discovery. we will find out if he was just unaware or if he did have involvement or not. >> these are several charges, not criminal. let me ask you about a major player. eric schneiderman, he has now become a national player. he can bring any charge for a park

charlie's with us now and, charlie, what is the president saying? >> well, during the interview, the president offered his most in-depth explanation so far of the controversial n.s.a. phone monitoring program 2015. >> point number one: if you're a u.s. person than n.s.a. is not listening to your phone calls and it's not targeting your e- mails unless it's getting an individualized court order. that's the existing law. there are no names, there is no content in that database. all it is is when those calls took place, how long they took place. now, if the n.s.a. through some other sources-- maybe through the f.b.i., maybe through a tip that went to the c.i.a., maybe through the n.y.p.d. gets a number that whether where there's a reasonable articulateable suspicion that this might involve foreign terrorist activity related to al qaeda and some other international terrorist actors then what the n.s.a. can do is it can query that database to see does this number pop up? did they make any other calls? >> pelley: should this be transparent in some way? >>

. >> the reason, charlie, i disagree with you because -- >> which charlie? >> charlie, i've had people, sources -- not sources. people that i've had to deal with writing about back in t day treat me like utter dirt and then try and make amends by calling me in to have tea d crumpets and it's all offhe record. >> i've had people call with -- >> it would take a lot more than crumpets to buyou off. i've had people attack me go to my boss, not just my boss. when i was working at the "wall street journal," the man who ran it, peter kha atalked ed attacd me, tried to get me fired. i sit do with him. eliot spitzer tried to get me fired. can i finish i'm going to talk right now! >> i grew up -- >> i'm going to talk. i'm not talking about tough, but i grew up nearpig manu farm, and i can smell it in th roo if somebody tries to muzzle me, i'm not going to go into a meeting and t them mudz elle me. >> i will sit wn and listen t them. that's called being a reporter. >> i'm just saying if they're tryingo muzzle you, you don't go into a meeting that muzzles you, period. >

i don't know that show but i know charlie rose. >> i said i am not doing charlie rose. and here we are, 2013. >> rose: is he still with us. >> yes. >> rose: that was a long time ago. tom hanks was here the other day and he said much the same thing. not the trip to bountifully but a lucky guy and he said it is so much faster now, so the question is, what happens between an original days of a play and months later when you have settled in and how is it different? >> discovery. every moment of the day discovery. we did a month of rehearsal before we did our first preview. >> rose: so. >> you are in there and talking through the lines and working on the rehearsal hall, so you are working with the actresses and everybody, you know, is wearing whatever they wore that day to rehearsal. >> rose: right. >> then you do that transition, emotional transition to the theatre, you step on the theatre the first time and you look out and you see all of the empty red seats and you have to reground yourself and then put the actual costume you will be wearing for seven, eight months on and

charlie and gayle? >> david bernard, thanks.n central louisiana. the williams company factory caught on fire after the explosion just outside of patton rouge. a baton rouge affiliate says injuries are reported. the plant makes oil-based chemicals. emergency crews are at the scene. >> there is no break from the intense heat in colorado. high temperatures and gusty winds are fanning several major wildfires. more than 100 homes have been destroyed. thousands more people have been forced to evacuate. kelly werthmann of our denver station, kcnc is in colorado springs. >> reporter: good morning. it is not the only fire burning in this state but it is the most devastating. the black forest fire burning near colorado springs has forced the evacuation of over 7,000 residents. though the neighboring counties have been issued a pre-evacuation notice and may have to leave today. 8,000 acres of colorado forests have already burned. authorities have been fighting the flames from the air, though the fire has proved to be unpredictable and fire

i'm charlie crowson. megan is off. a deleted happy father's day. as the weather went it was a good day to spend time outside. >>> it sure was, charlie. a fabulous weekend. today is more like yesterday. more clouds around. a few peaks of sunshine, but also the threat for showers and thunderstorms in the forecast. we can see what is going on with maryland's most powerful radar. most of the showers and storms stayed to the south of us over night. throughout the day we have the chance. we're waiting for the cold front to pass. it will stall out and wait around for the next couple of days. that's in store. outside right is going on right now -- we're waiting for the sun to come up. once it comes up, the clouds will be out there and the potential for sures and thunderstorms will linger throughout the day. the temperature in bel air is at 67 degrees. you're not seeing it is humid out there. as you go out the door, you will be like, lynette was right the muggies will get us today. into the afternoon. 89 -- as we go throughout the day, this is what to param

charlie, norah. >> thanks elaine. with us cbs news analyst and commentator ricki klee mann. >> how strong is the testimony? >> a killer like martorano ing th walking the streets doing 12 years for 20 murders we know of. he is ice cold. he does murder by murder by murder as if he's buying groceries. i'll take the eggs milk. i stabbed him, i shot him, i killed him. i he is highly credible and terribly frightening as if you're watching the"the sopranos"." he has got to show the government will stop at nothing o to get whitey bulger. com this guy on the street after committing 20 murders. this guy who has made money from people the government and other people a with a book and a movie. it really makes you bone chill. >> won't his credibility be at course. issue? >> yes, of course. he says of course he committedight eight murders before whitey even b joined the gang.d he can put whitey in the midst midst of 11 of 19 he's charged with. ultimately you have three bad, bad, bad bad people stone cold killers who are testifying

>> i think so, charlie.ave looked at some job categories and said it's okay to fire people. if you're a fire person, the clerk says it's okay not to hire them because you're 500 pounds and out of shape. as all thing, ultimately we're going to hear from a higher court and they'll give us some direction on it. >> thank you. >>> and they might need a bigger boat. we're going to show you the monster shark caught off southern california and meet the man who reeled this huge guy in. look at that? they say he's the size of a volkswagen. that's next. >>> tomorrow on "cbs this morning," neil patrick harris, the star of "how i met your mother," is going to be hosting. neil patrick harris tomorrow on "cbs this morning." [ female announcer ] you told jcpenney what kind of home you'd love to come home to. a home that's more joyful. more playful. more you. we listened. that's why we are introducing our all new home store. we have all the brands you know and exciting new brands you'll want to know. many on sale now, at 20-

and here's another big problem, charlie. yesterday, he was in the south china sea paper saying i have material to show you about how we've been spying on hong kong and when you're negotiating with hong kong to turn him over quickly that's the kind of thing that will complicate the relations and make them say we might want to look at that stuff before we decide. >> thank you, john. >>> the supreme court has decided that human genes cannot be patented. yesterday's ruling was a defeat for the company that controls a genetic breast cancer test used by angelina jolie. >> she had a double mastectomy after the test revealed she was likely to get cancer. in a statement she says i hope this ruling will lead to more women at risk for breast cancer being able to get access to gene testing and take control of their lives. >>> cbs news contributor dr. david agus is with us he leads the west side cancer center at usc. good morning. >> good morning, charlie and gayle. >> help us understand what the court said and what its impact is? >> so

good morning. >> good morning, charlie and norah. >> what's the latest? >> the key thing is he's not talking just about alleged u.s. spying on americans, which was the discussion all last week. he's talking about british spying on allies and u.s. spying on russian leaders and it seems to be a departure from i'm doing this because americans don't know their privacy's been violated to i'm giving out all the spying secrets of the u.s. government. >> but no surprise the u.s. was spying on foreign governments. >> i was shocked and appalled. >> and then you clapd. >> i'm kind of missing the point which is you start off as a whistle blower saying americans need to be be listened in on and the you say the brits listened in on these people and we listened in on the russian leader. that's what they do with a spy agency. i'm trying to figure out where he's going here. >> i think what's interesting is the response. they say they thwarted a number of attacks. they only spied on few theiren 300 phone records were reviewed. they're trying to say, l

captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: thank you for this opportunity on father's day as you're about to go to ireland for the g-8 conference. it's been an extraordinary week. >> yeah. >> rose: syria, iranian elections, demonstrations in turkey, n.s.a. questions. so i want to talk about all of that. >> right. >> rose: let me begin with elections in iran. >> right. >> rose: how do you read them? 75 p-blg of the people voted. the moderate won. what does this say and what are the opportunities there? >> well, i think it says that the iranian people want to move in a different direction and, you know if you contrast this with the violence and suppression that happened in the last presidential election, obviously you have a much more positive atmosphere this time. the iranian people rebuffed the hard liners and the clerics in the election who were counseling no compromise on anything, any time, anywhere. clearly you have a hunger within iran to engage with the international community in a more positive way. now, mr. ro

charlie gasparino has the details. charlie: i feel like i am cheating on liz by doing this story. is normally warren buffett person. a million dollars for lunch, but like 3 million last year, and million this year, a 70% decline. why do you think? cheryl: the stock itself is at an intraday high. berkshire hathaway. charlie: i asked point blank what you think this is happening? they laid out a bunch of reasons, overexposure. how much would you spend on lunch with warren buffett. but it is president obama. in the financial community there is one guy that is universally disliked, 70% of investment professionals if you ask them about president obama, they would give you a negative reaction for everything they know about the policies, tax policies, these are the guys that by all of that stuff. you have a 70% decline in lunch. how much would you have paid to have lunch with me? $0.70. cheryl: i was hoping you would buy lunch. charlie: i am just telling you, there is something to this story. i think if you blow it off, a million dollars, the market is up tremendously this year. the stock

adam, charlie gasparino. what do you think? >> the secret meetings about the secret recordings that the american people still aren't sure about, listen. at some point we should get something more than just a memo from the nsa telling them what they did. we deserve answers. if there's sensitive things, that's one thing. i think it's an affront. i think these guys have contempt for the american people, contempt for the constitution. i think they just don't care. >> i think it's a delicate balance when you're dealing with national security. and i would rather these briefings be behind closed doors. and if it means that i don't know some things about it, that's a good thing because it means that the terrorists don't know some things about it. i don't have a problem with them. >> what do you make of it? some argue the terrorists are finding other ways around this thanks to the leaks. what do you think? >> we know that terrorists are finding other ways around it. all we have to say is boston or london to know that. it is a very delic

but how does it happen, charlie.you doing this weekend? i might go home and mow the lawn. at no point did you say i'm going to the white house? when did that happen? how did it come together? >> after this program, i was talking to a colleague in my office, there was a call from the white house saying where are you this weekend? i said, where do you want me to be. >> yeah. >> and they said, well, the president would like to have a conversation about a range of issues. and you're the guy he'd like to have it with. >> there was that conversation about a range of issues. >> it's always good, in covering the white house, it's always interesting when you can talk with someone about important issue who can make decisions that affect those issues. >> no doubt. >>> well, when we come back, vanessa redgrave. she's been on screen and center stage for more than five decades. guess what, she's here with us in studi ♪ >>> vanessa redgrave is among the few actors to win, listen to this, a tony, an oscar and an emmy too, thank you

>> mcdonalds is fattening. >> charlie is right.ence is obviously coect but it is politically infeasible. >> we did it. >> ben stien? >> as asinine as this is, there is a precedent for doing it again a again and again. what do you thi of it? >> i think if you go to mcdonald, people are hard working people trying to get a bite to eat before they dot rest of the work. you are punishing the people that are hard working and not the people at san pedro. people going to mcdold don't need to be punished. wh do you think of that? >> where does it end? nonorganic vegetables and artificial color. >> not yet. the government is fantastic at stopping. >> we are talking about mcdonal which is virtually poison. >> we are not talking about mcdonald. >> it is such a hypocrite. >> you are. >> no, no. >> you are a great free marketeer mr. capitalist. >> no, go a head. >> you get taxes on alcohol in >> i am against taxes period. >> you thk it is depend for you. mcdonald good for you. >> and going to try to prevent is bad. >> mcdona is not bad. >> surel

and president obama also told charlie rose that the argument that going into syria, the u.s. going in there sooner or more heavily could have stopped the bloodshed and violence is not true. anne-marie. >> susan mcginnis is in washington. thank you, susan. >>> well, today, two u.s. senators plan to introduce legislation that would limit the government's ability to collect data on u.s. citizens. speaking to charlie rose on pbs, president obama said the nsa does not target e-mails or phone calls of u.s. citizens. he says he understands privacy concerns, but also says there say need for balance. >> the way i view it, my job is both to protect the american people and to protect the american way of life, which includes our privacy. and so, every program that we engage in, what i've said is, let's examine and make sure that we're making the right tradeoffs. >> meanwhile, someone claiming to be edward snowden, the man who leaked information about the nsa program, defended his actions during an online chat. he said he is not a spy for china and discounted efforts to silence him. bob o

hi, greg. >> straight to president obama and charlie rose.ana, greg asked if the nsa story was blown out of proportion or if obama was impeached and you said you are going with the former. could you be a bigger rhino? >> no, i couldn't. i am actually the biggest rhino you will ever meet. r-h-i-n-o. but i am sensitive about my weight so layoff that on tv. >> my bad. >> "p" rino. >> there is no h? >> i just came up with that. >> dan you said you have erotic e-mails betweenment -- between us. >> they are a bunch of liars. >> strong words. >> don't take on my passionate e-mails like that. i put a lot of effort into those. >> i would like to say for the record i have not gotten a single one. >> you will, starting tonight. >> that was the point of me bringing that up. will, you said general alexzander's uniform looked like something from gilbert and sullivan. it is army dress blues. >> and he wears a uniform because he is an active duty four-star general of the. >> how are you an active duty four-star general. >> he commands the cyber command. it i

good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. the misty cooler weather a blessing of firefighters. what a difference a day makes. the fire is now 60% contained, but that didn't happen before turning some people's homes out here into piles of blackened rubble. and it is still a dangerous situation out here, because more changes in the weather could send this fire roaring back to life. the powerhouse while fire continues to blaze on, fife days after igniting in northern los angeles county. firefighters have been dancing quite a path with this one, with gusty hot winds fueling the fire in so many directions. officials don't expect a completely contain it until next week. six homes, burned to the ground, flames damaged another nine. firefighters say structure protection remains a top priority. >> we've had significant drying of fuels, low humidities. low relative humidities and winds which was one of the driving forces in this particular fire. >> reporter: but the situation improved for nearly 3,000 evacuees who were allowed back int

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>> because -- first of all, charlie, the number of requests are surprisingly small, number one. number two, folks don't go with a query unless they've got a pretty good suspicion. >> rose: should this be transparent in some way? >> it is transparent, that's why we set up the fisa court. the whole point of my concern before i was president -- because some people say obama was this rave liberal before, now he's dick cheney. dick cheney sometimes says, yeah, he took it all lock stock and barrel. my concern has always been not that we shouldn't do intelligence gathering to prevent terrorism but rather are we setting up a system of checks and balances? so on this telephone program you have a federal court with federal judges overseeing the entire program and you've got congress overseeing the program. not just the intelligence committee, not just the judiciary committee but all of congress had available to it before the last reauthorization exactly how this program works. now one last point i want to make because you hear people say "okay, we have no evidence that it has been abused