it was months before he said his mother was from charlottesville. and i said dad, jefferson was from charlottesville. and he said yes, i know. so he was kind of toying with me just a little bit. let me go back to my grandmother. there we are. but i learned from my dad about my grandmother is that her name was eva robinson taylor. it could have been robinson, it could have been taylor. he wasn't sure. he wasn't sure which name was hers, her maiden name. it is because his mother died when he was five years old. he didn't know much about her. he didn't know what her name was. to me, that was remarkable. as a 13 year old girl, my dad was as close as you could get to god. i grew up in a household that was like, father knows best. my father knew everything. and so, again, i couldn't process how my daddy did not know the name of his own mother. i couldn't process how we could have been descended from thomas jefferson. as a child, i was very curious. i kept pursuing and kept asking. dad said his mother died when he was five years old, couldn't remember her

words. >> he certainly was appalled at the events in charlottesville.at behind closed doors. the problem is, this is a white house where, if he said that, it would be in direct contradiction to sort of the side-stepping that the president was doing. but by doing that, when you're mike pence, you're enabling it to happen again. >> so how do we account for the limp, listless, embarrassing silence from elected republicans? >> a tweet doesn't cut it in this situation, it just doesn't. >> narrator: in the end, paul ryan and the republican leadership would move on, not confront trump about the extremists among his supporters. >> they also have to reckon with a political consequence from allowing him to define the party in the way he is doing. >> senator, do you mind stopping for just 30 seconds? >> it was a constant decision we were having to make every day. some things were pretty fundamental, like charlottesville, where you were, you had to speak with a moral voice about what was right and wrong, but it was also untenable to always be at war with him. you c

it is not surprising that richard spencer chose charlottesville for that. charlottesville, relatively small town. right. it is town of about 55,000 people. not a big city. it had for civil war monuments. one to robert e. lee, one to stonewall jackson, and to where they're often referred to as standing soldiers. anonymous civil war soldiers. richard spencer had a connection with you via so that was part of it. but charlottesville was a city that, in the 1950s, decided to close it city schools rather than integrate. it is a movement referred to as massive resistance. this happened -- in not throughout the state of virginia, but in multiple cities throughout virginia. so, the local residents were supposed to integration after the ruling of brown v. board of education that they closed the schools. right? it has a deeply racist history. so when the city voted to remove the statue of robert e. lee, but they did not to a quickly enough it became a site, a great sights, for them to have this protest. uva somehow or another manages not to integrate its undergraduate

jefferson was in charlottesville. and he says yes, i know. so he was kind of toying with me just a little bit. i'm going to go back. let me go back to my grandmother. there we are. what i learned from my dad about my grandmother, is that her name? was eva robinson taylor? it could have been robinson. he said it could have been tailored. he wasn't sure. which name was hers her maiden name and it's because his mother died when he was five years old. so we didn't know much about her. he didn't know what her name was which to me was remarkable because as a 13 year old girl, my dad was as close as you could get to god. i grew up in a household. i grew up in a household. that was like father knows best. my father knew everything and so i just couldn't again i couldn't process how my daddy didn't know the name of his own mother. i couldn't process how we could have been descended from thomas jefferson. none of this made sense to me. but as a child i was a burning journalist. i was very curious so i kept pushing and kept asking. dad said his mother d

all of these small spaces have set the stage for huge explosions. >> the battle in charlottesville seem to be over a single statue. and it is a battle that has been repeated in cities across the country. but more than 1500 monuments to the confederacy remain. honoring those who fought and died to keep black america, like my ancestors, in bondage. so i drove down there to learn for myself just how deep these roots are buried. i'm looking for understanding. for something that will make sense in this moment. along the way, i visited monuments. those are that are not so easily removed. artifacts, small enough for some to ignore. landmarks, too big to take down. that reside in our memory, and in our blood. because the fight was always more than just a statue. beautiful morning in frederick ville, virginia. i didn't want to take this journey alone, so i asked my friend, a reporter from the new york times to join me. to help me process what it all means. >> what is going on? or >> good to see you. >> we talked about race in history, how his people came from trinidad. and mine from the slave tr

by charlottesville changed everything.elieved our stories to unite as people's one nation and one america. when those folks came out of those -- that field carrying torches, the united states of america, carrying torches, chanting the same anti-semitic bile that was chanted in germany and the early '30s, accompanied by white supremacists holding nazi flags. and i thought to myself, my god, this is the united states of america. how could that happen. i really mean it. as my friends in the movement, civil rights movement, i got involved because of civil rights as a kid. but the idea, the idea that in the first quarter of the 20th century, we had a people come out and carrying torches nazi flags and banners, chanting the vile and accompanied by white supremacists, david dukes and and an innocent young woman is killed. when the last guy was asked, what do you think, he said he thought there was some fine people on both sides. look, folks, there are core values that should bring us together as americans. one of them is standing

with charlottesville. as you said, the president, the former president, both sides for everything.rritory that we have been going over, at least i know. since i've been dealing with donald trump over the past five, six, seven years. it kind of says the same thing over and over. we go through charlottesville, we go through stuff that he does within play players and i'm kneeling on all of that. and we always arrive at the same point, where he is making excuses for white supremacy and bigotry and racism. and so here we go again. i just want to play this. alice, this is for you, from the current president of the united states. watch this. >> donald trump in the maga republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. i want to be very clear, very clear up front -- not every republican, not even the majority of republicans are maga republicans. not every republican embraces their extreme ideology. i know because i have been able to work with these mainstream republicans. but there is no question that the republican party today is dominated, driven and

they turn it off on this one and entered it it way up on charlottesville created a hoax out of it. house how is that? got headed home. >> jesse: if the pressure keeps on it starting to really ramp up member rittenhouse? they try to throw the book at him because he was defending himself from an onslaught of attackers? who is this guy defending himself from? he's in a car. he's 41 years old, he's in a car give a skinny teenager was a threat to your life? you are in a car you can just drive away these on foot. now this is what he said said well i was worried that this teenager, mind you a teenager was gonna call his crew in their income for me. again you are in a car you can drive away and that means that if guy was alone he didn't have anyone with them. the story doesn't add up at all he was drunk and he is a previous dui conviction he says some republican extremists he has braces. how many extremist republicans and the messe terrace have on? come on. the guy looks like young kid who was almost at a high school. the judge in the prosecutor need to step up at disowning right here beca

, you still see white supremacists leaving leaflets, propaganda, stickers throughout charlottesville, including at the site where her daughter was killed. there's a kind of training, and this is what biden did call for, that is necessary for local law enforcement for cities that never had to deal with this kind of thing before, that is, part of what his administration putting forward. the standing ovation was for calling out social media companies saying they have a responsibility to really step up to the plate here as well. and called for congress to strip immunity here. so those are some of the policy prescriptions. but this, of course, is a much broader, more difficult task that the president has set himself on, but he said he's not going to give up that fight and continue this moving forward. >> mike memoli, this was not the first time we saw president joe biden today. he came out earlier and announced a tentative deal that would avert a rail strike. talk about what went into that and his role in that. >> reporter:well, it's interesting, nicole, because we see so often the preside

he saw the white supremacists in charlottesville and he decided this was a pivotal moment and that our democracy was in peril. nothing we have seen since would disabuse him of that idea or disabuse anybody of that idea. this is a serious moment. this is a serious election coming up. there will be another one in 2024, one hopes. the very process of our democracy and the peaceful transfer of power is threatened when one party, and a lot of one party, refuses to acknowledge the results of free and fair elections. i mean, that's the fundamental problem. the policy issues we can deal with, but you have to acknowledge elections and the people transfer of power and maga republicans don't acknowledge that. >> joe biden has had no choice but to evolve because the democratic party has devolved that way. they have a core and base. the poll, 54% of whom strong republicans believe civil war is unlikely. it's not clear that they don't want it. when you see all adults say they fear civil war, some fear it. one wonders whether some wish it. that puts joe biden in a position of having to be a very diff

, hit by the car by the white supremacist back in 2017 and after charlottesville we know he declaredndidacy for president. a lot of emotion in the room. what could it lead to? >> we've seen the president not be hesitant at all to use his bully pulpit in this way, right? he hasn't hesitated at all. he has always, from the time that he stepped out on the campaign trail, he said that the impetus for that, as you mentioned, was the charlottesville, the process that we all saw years ago. i think yesterday was symbolic in the fact that we had this taking place at the same time that you have some of these immigrants, being bussed or flown to places like martha's vineyard, the images outside the naval observatory as well, i think that split screen really speaks to some of the issues that the president was talking about yesterday. >> he spoke very powerfully on that as well, and this comes on the backdrop of the midterms, less than two months out and abortion has become a major flash point after the supreme court decision and senator lindsey graham proposed a national abortion ban and that wa

charlottesville did not happen in a vacuum. these are the bubbling up of of of a rich history that is extremely dark and in a lot of ways, it's also very hopeful. we found a lot of hopeful moments, but we as americans need to confront just how rich the history and news and dark the history is of america as a relationship with race and how that has played out in our media. the birth of a nation, the gone with the wind, the the terrible, terrible photographs of the lynchings, the late 19th century, the early 20th century, the role of those photographs at first in continuing the kind of level of racism, and then ultimately shocking and shaming the nation towards what they were doing. but i think that was a revelation, i would say was that the role of media wasn't just new. the newness was only the most recent manifestation of something that's been playing out and has gone back both ways. both hopefully a lot of hope. photojournalism of the 1960s with extremely powerful of the civil rights movement and also very dark. yeah. and i w

launch in the wake of a shocking display by white nationalists in charlottesville virginia fires moments ago. let's hear from the president, in just a moment. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ >> my fellow americans. please, if you could have a seat. thank you. i speak to you tonight from sacred ground in america. independents all, and philadelphia, pennsylvania. this is where america made its declaration of independence to the world. more than a few centuries ago, with an idea that is unique among nations. that in america, where all are created equal, this is where the united states constitution was written, and debated. this is where we set in motion the most extraordinary experiment of self governance that the world has ever known. with three simple words, we, the people, we, the people. these two documents that is a quality for democracy. barack upon which this nation is built. it is becoming the greatest nation on earth. they're why, for more than two centuries, america has been a beacon to the world. as i stand here tonight, with quality, and democracy, we do ourselves know favorite to pretend otherwise. t

. >> in 2013, he settled here in 50 greene acres of the blue ridge mountains outside charlottesville dream of opening a distillery. it smells delicious. >> you want to eat the air. >> it was kristine's bourbon that got him into politics. frustrated with high liquor taxes and government red tape, he made an unsuccessful run for governor in 2017. soon, a seat opened up in virginia's conservative fifth congressional district. he ran, and to his surprise, he won. and in 2018 found himself in the seat once held by james madison. >> the accidental congressman i called myself. >> a republican with a libertarian bent, he joined the freedom caucus, the most conservative wing of the party. he voted with president trump 92% of the time, but says his loyalty was questioned, because he'd sometimes reach across the aisle to work with democrats. kristine told us the beginning of the end was when denver decided to officiate the wedding of two gay campaign workers. >> so you were this staunch conservative. and you officiate a same-sex wedding. >> yeah. kristine's there, you know, honey, you might hav

>> one thing i try to do in my book is to tell both sides of the ledger and certainly the charlottesvillements by the former president was difficult and we had a good conversation. i'm not sure we got to the same side of the issue, but we did get to the same side of the solution, which was helping people who were hurting, helping people in marginalized communities and we need to have hard conversations about not red or blue solution, but american solutions. let's have hard conversations about the fact in america, a good education is the closest thing to magic and that is why 67% of democrats, 68% of independents, 70% of -- agree quality education is necessary for the furtherance of the american dream and hardest hit communities. if we were to have the tough issues and tough conversations about the future of america and not the future of republicans or democrats, we would actuallyerna the respect of the american people and let the voters make their own decisions. >> shannon: it is time and place to have important debate and conversations, thank you for your time. gamecocks had a hard time.

the american people, and that bet is paying off, proving that from darkness, the darkness of charlottesville covid, gun violence, insurrection, we can see the light. light is now visible. light that will guide us forward. not only in words, but in actions. actions for you. for your children. for your grandchildren. for america. even in this moment, with all the challenges we face, i give you my word as a biden, and i have never been more optimistic about america's future. we are going to end cancer as we know it, mark my words, create millions of new jobs and a clean energy economy. we are going to think big and make the 21st century another american century. because the world needs us to. [applause] that's where we need to focus our energy, not in the past, not on divisive culture wars, not on the politics of grievance, but on a future we can build together. the maga republicans believe that for them to succeed, everyone else has to fail. they believe america -- not like i believe about america -- i believe america is big enough for all of us to succeed, and that is a nation worth building,

that campaign video where he spoke to the nation about charlottesville and president trump's reactionthe soul of the nation was at stake. that is why he was running for president. he came back to those themes again on january 6 of th year to mark the one-year anniversary of the insurrection. we have seen in other speeches. for instance, in atlanta when he gave a voting rights speech. talking about the fundamental need to protect the right to vote. what made last night's speech different was the toughness and the directness of his language. drawing a clear contrast between what he isoing as president and the maga wing of the republican party. the less point i will make is joe biden is never more animated, clear, focused and determined than when he is talking about the fight for the soul of the nation. judy: what did you make of it? there is a lot of criticism. as we heard. david: i have a little, actually. i think he is right that this is a special time in american history. this is not normal, the threat to democracy are real. the president should be speaking about the real threats to

. >> charlottesville changed everything. when those folks came out of that field carrying torches and i thought to myself, my god. this is the united states america, senator. how could it happen. >> laura: okay, he's like a lame old lounge act, you know, at this point? he always falls back on a poorly performed version of his old greatest hits. >> the vein bulging. >> the veins bulging as they were screaming. >> the veins bulging. >> literally coming out of the field carrying torches with was take cas. >> those folks coming out of the fields in virginia carrying was particular cas and torches. >> coming out of the fields with torches lighted. >> laura: now to quite biden, look, in all seriousness folks, this is all they have. they obviously cannot make the affirmative case for their record because under his leadership americans are getting poorer, our streets are getting more dangerous and the border's wide open. good luck defending that. so all they're left with is january 6th and charlottesville. that if you don't elect de

amy: roberta kaplan, people may not know, an attorney who took on the kkk, far right in charlottesvilleou live for so many years. your pivotal to her coming down here and suing them. >> she is someone who filed a wsuit in 2017 but did not go to trial until 2021 but got a masse $26 million judgment against white supremacists and nazis charlottesville. shows how the law is slow and takes a long time but at its best, you really can make us all freer and safer and restored unity to those who have been harmed. amy: dahlia lithwick, that you for being with us, covering the courts and the law for slate and hosting the podcast amicus. her new book is out, called "lady justice: women, the law, and the battle to save america." that does it for our show. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!] ñl (sophie fouron) we're right in the middle of the atlantic. and out of nowhere are these nine

you knew this was, i'm sure side quality about a property or charlottesville, steve, we work with them. here we go to somebody, position the radicalization of my down is proceeding apace is barricades appearing all over central key. my dance self defense activists seize and control government buildings. confrontations with the police on new mia skirmishes anymore. real battles are ranging in the city streets, protested wheeled, iron bars, improvised batten's, stones, and stacks of molotov cocktails. i with ah, the journalist roslyn cut saba covered the events on my down in 2014. he saw what was happening in the center of cape with his own eyes and is still trying to understand who was interested in keeping my dad going. and why this is all you got to do it, or what were you, my really, if you see the one that you have a didn't get to you of thomas it hooked up. what you really got hope, cookie cutter. you took him to all. that was why me so push neither minnesota with liberal of me. if you miss i'm is, is really use. i may need to bring money breath away. but virginia, thoughtful of sh

. >> now, this is why biden can'tt quit charlottesville . >> they're vais bulgy. the veins bulging as they were screaming . they're coming out of his carrying torches. wasswareaming. carrying to keep those folkss. coming out of left field down in virginia carrying i swastikas wad torches, chanting the same anti semitic bile that waste chanted in germany in the early thirties, chanting the same anti semitic bile heard across europe in the 30s and then n there's the insurrection that wasn't whenever the news getotse bad politically for biden,mo the democrats in the media try to save the party by going bac back to jan 6th. to jand we will be presenting new information, new evidence to the american people because the investigation goes on , youemise you, it will b interesting for peoplel who have followed it up untinoln now and hey, in a democracy,e pp the people have the right tole knowledge about what's takinn gt place with their government. >> i think it'll. but be potentiallymore s more sweeping than some of the other hearings. so i think iwe of tht will be ,o oth

but charlottesville changed everything.those folks came out of that field, carrying torches, in the united states of america, carrying torches, chanting the same anti-semitic bile that was channed in germany in the early '30s, accompanied by white supremacists, holding nazi flags, i thought to myself, my god, this is the united states of america, how could it happen? i really mean it. and my friends in the movement, the civil rights movement, i got involved in politics because of civil rights as a kid. but the idea, the idea that in the first quarter of the 20th century, that people come out carrying torches, nazi flags and banners, accompanied by white supremacists, david dukes and his crowd. and an innocent young woman was killed. when the last guy was asked what do you think, he said there were fine people on both sides. look, folks, there are core values that should bring us together as americans. one of them is standing together against hate, racism, bigotry, and violence that have long haunted and plagued our nation.

well, biden always goes back back to charlottesville, right charlottesville.it's the veins bulgingrlotto torches. i mean, he goes.s back to that.e i think we played a montagee ha like fifteen times.ings. we he's mentioned those things, but we got the summer of love, o everything being ripped to shreds in american cities, individuals being threatened fo r having dinner outside. and now this. and it's crickets from merrick garland and joe biden. nothing. >> zero political targeting. yeah, well, right. because they're so focusedocus on going the other way. they're so focused on as i saide ,cooking the books. we've haowerd whistleblowers tel us that they are they are being forced and pressured too categorize cases as domesticenct violence, extremism cases and to the way they are reporting the januarhey six and as if they're happening alle over the country. when it was one event here ievee washington, dc to juice these numbers. that's from that's from the fbil agent coming te-o us under a whistle blower protection, giving us that information. so it's all part of th

back to when he announced his candidacy because he announced saying he was running because of charlottesvilleeo nazis marching there that he saw and that he believed, yes, it was a battle for the soul of the country. the difference now versus then is how direct and aggressive he's being in terms of trying to diagnose for the american public what he's seeing, which is the increase in violent rhetoric, the increase in violence from charlottesville to january 6th, to the threats against the fbi now, and saying that to him, what he said recently at i adnc fund-raiser, that's semi-fascism. which was a really aggressive and different tone for the president because many historians and scholars of authoritarianism and fascism have long been warning that that's what -- that's the movement that is growing among republicans on the right led by former president trump and they had been waiting for the president and other democrats to get to that point. >> if you look at this moment compared to if we went back in time a month or two, the president and his party are in a very different position, a stronger

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he responded to the violence that he saw in charlottesville when the neo nazis were marching.e said he was launching his campaign because he needed to respond to that. and that's where his soul of the nation slogan came from. but since then, he has given a few speeches about the threats to democracy. but this was really a shift this week. we saw that he started using the term that's once calling the forces that he seen rise within the republican partysemi fascist. he did that at a maryland fundraiser and then again at the speech on gun violence. he talked about how you can't be pro-cop but also saying that the f.b.i. should be defunded. and then again just later on this week talking about the fact that what the political violence that he sees some republicans encouraging is something that he felt the need to draw a line in the sand on. he very forcefully focused on former president trump and a number of other republicans trying to say that he doesn't think all republicans are this way. but that they are dominating the party and ultimately he felt as though he needed to address

the darkness of charlottesville of cove would have gotten violence in his direction. we can see, go, i, i will not stand by and watch the most fundamental freedom in this country. the freedom to vote and have your vote counted and be taken from you and the american people, both as your friends and i will defend our democracy with every fiber of my being. and i'm asking every american to join me with the w. b, killick of nurse, she is in washington and she also followed the u. s. president's address to the nation. well, it's an interesting timing. i mean, there's a one can say there's a cynical view one can take, which is this is shirley strategy, but it also is a political risk not to talk about bread and butter issues, about gas prices and not promising a further step to alleviate the pressure that ordinary americans are feeling right now, but then also it comes just a few days after donald trump, whom he remarkably mentioned several times, something he tried to avoid during the 1st months of his presidency. while donald trump issued his social media message, still d

with a montage of imagery, including charleston's emanuel shooter, dylann roof, kneo-nazis in charlottesville, trees in pittsburgh after the tree of life, synagogue shooting and scenes from january 6th. have a look at this clip. >> we have seen the nadia of human behavior, and we have no guarantee that it won't recover. if we can make that clear and graphic and understandable, not as something to imitate but as a warning of what can happen to human beings, then perhaps we have one shield against its recurrence. >> sarah, do you see this film as a warning? >> i do think that the film can be a warning, that human beings are capable of doing horrendous things to each other, so bad that while they're happening, they're can't believe it's happening. that democracies fall quickly. that institutions crumble quickly, and for me, that is the thing to push against, that i still believe, having made this film and worked with ken for as long as i have that america is a very special country. it is a great land of opportunity, that we are very privileged to live in a pretty much working democracy. and that

extremists say, i made a bet with the american people and it is paying off, on the darkness of charlottesvillecan see the light, it is now available. the light that will guide us forward. not only in words, but in actions, for you, for your children, your grandchildren, for america. even at this moment, with all the challenges we face, i give you my word, i have never been more optimistic about america's future, not because of me, but because of who you are. we are going to end cancer as we know it, mark my words. we are going to create millions of newjobs in the clean energy economy. we are going to think big and make the 21st century another american century, because the world needs us to. that's what we need to focus our energy on, not on the past, not on culture wars. not on the politics of grievance. but on a future we can build together. the maga republicans believe that for them to succeed, everyone else has to fail. they believe america, not like i believe about america... i believe america is big enough for all of us to succeed, and that is the nation we are building, where no one is

the darkness of charlottesville of cove would have gotten violence in his direction. we can see the light. light is now visible light that will guide us forward. not only in words, but an actual action for you, for your children, for your grandchildren, for america. even at this moment with all the challenge we face, i gave you my word as abide. now i've never been more optimistic about america's future. not because it may be because of who you are. we're going to end cancer, as we know at mark my words, are you create millions of new jobs in a clean energy economy? we're going to think big. we're going to make the 21st century another american century. because the oral needs us to that's where we need to focus our energy mom the past. lot on to visit culture wars. well, a politics of grievance. but on a future we can build together. the mag republic is believe the for them to succeed . every one else has to fail. they believe america. not like i believe about america. i believe america is big enough for all of us to succeed. and that is the nation. we're building a n

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the darkness of charlottesville of cove would have gotten violence of his direction. we can see the light. i will not stand by and watch the most fundamental freedom in this country, the freedom to vote and have your vote counted and be taken from you and the american people both as your friends and i will defend our democracy with every fiber of my being and i'm asking every american to join me. what did abuse be killed like of? no, she is in washington and she also followed the u. s. president's address to the nation. well, it's an interesting timing. i mean, there's a one can say there's a cynical view one can take, which is this is purely strategy, but it also is a political risk not to talk about bread and butter issues, about gas prices and not promising a further step to alleviate the pressure that ordinary americans are feeling right now, but then also it comes just a few days after donald trump, whom he remarkably mentioned several times, something he tried to avoid during the 1st months of his presidency. while donald trump issued his social media message, s

please. erica household this ours has more than issue 100. 2000 people are loss or subsidy to charlottesville treated him to 5937 men who died to moses were speaking. ballard is almost 2500000 people. so b as portal mobilization is like birds, one percent made slightly more and was been that 1 point one percent may be each 100. so the total number of so worse of motherly sanction rates were these right now let's go live to dr. andre thomas. housing is a german attorney and a meritus, a professor of law in south africa. so thanks so much for joining us in an odd c. now the president made his statement this morning, 9 a m local time. what are your thoughts over the statement? but he made well, i have been my whole life or professor of international law. so i immediately thought again of united nations charter to go to section 3 and for section 3 is very important. because in it all states commit themselves to conduct all of their policies in peaceful way in a peaceful manner. and they accept that the use of force is reserved to the united nation. and this means, as i used to tell my students in

washington time, the reason he ran for president was because he saw the white supremacist, riley, and charlottesville, virginia and 2017. and he saw donald trump or the last guy as he put it, he didn't refer to trump by name, then make comments saying that there were good people on either side. talk about white supremacists and an anti races, protested, as he repeated that story again today. and it's clearly a theme that he's returning to in the run up to the midterm elections also perhaps to the post mid term elections when there's a lot of debate about whether he should run again what he actually stands for. so once again, he's returning to the, i'm all about fighting for the soul of the nation. all right, and so what did you say? what did the white house say that we're going to do about this? a lot of what they said, actually the white house doesn't have much control over it's, it's about ball into groups and congress and, and so on. but one thing that they did talk about was having more of an inter agency approach to tackling white extremism. all these on domestic terrorism potentially, you know,

presidential studies at the university of virginia's millis center, and she's joining us from charlottesville. barbara, thank you so much for being with us and thank you for your patience. as heidi said there, the queen had a very strong and special relationship with the us. tell us more about the kind of relationship she had with the different presidents during her reign. it's amazing and astounding if you think of it this way, the 1st president she met was she had become queen in 1952. i was harry truman. and in the united states, we combine our head of state with head of government, the president bodies, both of those roles. so just imagine of harry truman were still the head of faith in this country. so to think that 1314 presidents have intervened and that her relationship with our president has symbolized this amazingly strong alliance between the united states and the, the former colonization a country. and to think that we thought a revolution against great britain and then have come to develop this alliance that saws to through 2 world wars and the cold war. and she embodied that. wh