that same faith, but there is something incredibly powerful and visceral about the chinese and their charne and what their children are able to do and accomplish in the future. it is almost like i don't want to say god. it is what is bigger than they themselves. if you can ensure -- they feel as though whether it is government or social leaders are allowing them to educate their children and give them an opportunity and make sure they are safe. that really is the basis of i think china's faith and social contract. tavis: how do you process this u.s. push on china around human rights and freedom? >> that is indeed a pandora's box. i think the simplest way for me to answer is to say first, that i honestly believe that china has redefined what social justice means in a way, in a context, in a way that suits them and works for them. i think the results speak for themselves. we talk about the ability to say i think this and you think this and you think this. that's freedom. arguably it is. but from a different perspective, i think a chinese perspective , 1.3 billion voices all screaming and peop