never occurred to me i was going to live and die in chattanooga, tennessee, when i was growing up. >>e getting out? >> i was getting on a pirate ship and hang out with errol flynn and swing from ship-to-ship with a dagger in my mouth and a sword in my hand >> you came pretty close to it >> i got a light saber i'm good. >> you got your version of that. in 1972, jackson graduated from morehouse college, where he founded a theater group he moved to new york and fell into a group of actors with bright futures ahead of them what were the early years as a struggling actor like when you were running around town with denzel and wesley snipes and young guys trying to make it >> delightful. there was a huge legion of us in the streets doing plays all over time the artistic community was nurturing. >> another member of that community was a budding director named spike lee who asked jackson to appear in his groundbreaking films "do the right thing" and "jungle fever." >> i'm a little light right now. could you let me hold your change >> the latter role hit close to home for jackson who struggled

are there to clue in toronto he is a social commentator and editor and being libertarian and in chattanooga we cross it anthony ryan logan is a conservative political commentator i generally rules and think that means you can jump in and want and i always appreciate it ok and you let me go to you 1st did you notice i saw these images over the last few days of people being forced to take the knee and apologizing for their skin color or their ancestry or oh i don't know what particular groups they were blocked by it's matter of their groups it doesn't matter to me i think just that gesture in itself should be an affront to all of us i mean when i see those kind of images i think oh maoist china and the red guard and i think of becoming a rouge i think oh stalinist trials where people have self-criticism i find it quite horrifying and i think we're going in the wrong direction in the country we should value all lives and no one should apologize for what they look like go ahead . so you can pretty much know down right there bashir value last and you know we shouldn't be having this thing where

but your five original parks, in no certain order, vicksburg, shiloh, chickamauga, chattanooga -- that is one battlefield -- gettysburg, antietam. when they congregate after the war, they are going to be at these original battlefields when they do that. you know? the 1938 reunion, actually the war department, the u.s. army ordered in several hundred coffins in anticipation of some of the veterans dying at the reunion. i am happy to say, i hear the murmur in the crowd over this one, you should be prepared, he is a boy scout. [laughter] that was actually right off the top of my head right there. [laughter] no one died, i am happy to report. i think one person may have died on the way home, but no one died at the reunion. what is that about the american psyche? why is gettysburg bigger in the american psyche than vicksburg? i'm running out of time, so i have to skip through, but i would urge you to go through and look at some of the more modern interpretation. it is all over the place. the hardest part that i had getting some of this together and my coworker carleton smith in gettysburg,

and that is all basically related to vicksburg, with a subsequent success in the chattanooga area. that rolls it all up right there. the question begs itself, could the war, talking about sherman could the war have been won without them? can the north win the war without sherman and grant? that is an open-ended question for you to ponder. you note takers ought to be writing right now. so if you think about it, ladies and gentlemen, which those of you up front, because you paid the early bird special of $130 can now see that small print and you in the back cannot read that and will not get that joke. this actually happens to be the only picture that i can find with all three generals in it, including the subsequent president andrew johnson. grant, sherman, and meade. out of those commanders, which out do you find or two of three or three out of three, which ones are indispensable? debatable question, but grant obviously has to be up there. if you think about it, ladies and gentlemen, what about the parks to the veterans? what does it mean to them? there is a reason that the veterans

guests are there in toronto he is a social commentator and editor and being libertarian and in chattanooga we cross it anthony bryan logan is a conservative political commentator i generally rules of the bank that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok and they let me go to you 1st that you know as i saw these images over the last few days of people being forced to take a knee and apologizing for their skin color or their ancestry or oh i don't know what particular groups they were black lives matter other groups it doesn't matter to me i think just that gesture in itself should be. an affront to all of us i mean when i see those kind of images i think of maoist china and the red guard and i think of the camaro rouge i think of stalinist trials where people have self-criticism i find it quite horrifying and i think we're going in the wrong direction in the country we should value all lives and no one should apologize for what they look like go ahead. you can pretty much know down right there bashir value last and you know we shouldn't be having this thing wher

. >> reporter: this woman from chattanooga lost her bar tending job in march.er bar has since re-opened but only rehired a fraction of the staff. she gets $275 in state unemployment benefits each week, plus $600 a week in federal benefits, but they expire at the end of next month. >> if it was just 275 that i was getting a week with the stimulus which ends in july which is kind of scary for a lot of people, that made it to a livable wage. >> reporter: one recent survey found 78% of people who recently lost their jobs believe their layoffs will be temporary. that's the hope of donald franklin in aliquippa, pennsylvania. he works in manufacturing. >> i asked my boss yesterday when is the night crew going to come back in. he said the orders are still light, so i am not really sure when i'm going to go back to work. >> reporter: for many in the retail sector the job losses are permanent. jcpenney, which recently filed for bankruptcy, announced thursday that 154 store also close this summer. in hard hit las vegas where the unemployment rate has topped 30%, new hope

a white man who freely acknowledge the history of mental illness set out to walk from chattanooga, tennesseeppi, where he hoped to persuade the government to alter his racial stance. he made it to alabama where a white man shot him dead. simpson is free on bond after being charged with the murder. killed a whiteo man in lexington, north carolina. the victim died on the way to the hospital. at 24-year-old auto mechanic, who, like hundreds of others in lexington that june night, had been caught up in an emotional storm. rioting had broken out at the edge of the white and negro sections, apparently stemming from attempts of a small negro group to enter restaurants. 500 whites faced the negro. line search, rocks were hurled and shots fired from the negro side. fred leach fell to the street. another man was wounded but not seriously. eventually, three of the negroes , 18 to 21 years of age, were charged with the killing. they will stand trial in october. leach apparently was only an innocent bystander. -- lines surged. the mob had developed an additional weapon in the battle, federal intervention

marvin's retired military in chattanooga. thanks for being with us. >> as a retired military person i'm a vietnam veteran from the most decorated company clerk from the total vietnam war. home may 25th is marvin -- day in tennessee, that's me. and when i came home in 1969 an. saw in 1970 as a college student the united states government shooting at their own people and killing their own white children and i said to my god if they'll do this to their own white people what will they do to another race?stat all these things turned around has been totally monitored by the president of the united states during these periods.l w. and in this particular period this particular president of the united states is leading us to o civil war. i would like to ask him in his dispersement of troops into the black neighborhoods, what u' happens inre the state capitol michigan, lancing, michigan, ah when youror armed citizens stoo in the face of their -- of authority. >> marvin, thanks for being with us this morning. kevin, any thoughts? >> fir

i was born in chattanooga, texas, a key battle in the civil war. 600 yards from braxton bragg headquarters. when i was a kid, you could find little civil war bullets in the ground. i'm a graduate of the university of the south, an institution in the middle of tennessee. i'm familiar with this vernacular. my test always for memorials, monuments, what i think of as the mechanics of memory, has been was the person or the institution being memorialized dedicated to the pursuit of a more perfect union. by that test, even the most flawed white americans, andrew jackson, james madison, thomas jefferson, george washington, could be memorialized as imperfect people that ultimately gave us the civil rights act, the voting rights act. from seneca falls to selma, to stonewall the history of the country has been to -- we should focus our memory around those moments. perfection cannot be the goal. nothing on this side of paradise is perfect. it's a much overdue reckoning. this is like the fall of baghdad. it's like the fall of many of the former soviet republics

the base is named after confederate bragg who lost a battle of chattanooga in georgia fort gordon named after john brown gordon head of the ku klux klan and robert e. lee trusted officers at west point president trump has shades of the george washington farewell address. >> we are restoring the fundamental principles that job of american soldiers not to really build foreign nations. it is not the duty of u.s. troops to solve and yent and yengt conflict in far away langdz that many people have never heard of. got a missile cruiser is named after a confederate victory over union forces in civil war. and republican control senate arm service committee isive going pentagon three years to change those names. jon. jon: lucas tomlin son-in-law at pentagon lucas, thank you. and we'll be back in just a moment. discomfort back there? instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders. try the cooling, soothing relief of preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. try new soothing relief. or psoriatic arthritis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otez

i believe it was the chief of chattanooga that, when -- when -- when mr.s life, he said to his officers, if you do not have a problem with what happened to mr. floyd, turn in your badges. i think these 57 need to do the same thing, because they are not committed to the community of buffalo. >> mark, buffalo mayor byron brown was asked if the officers involved should be fire the. here -- here it is. >> i am not calling for them to be fired. i want the investigation to be conducted. i don't want to jump ahead of the investigation. it is very important that officers know that they are getting due process. >> should they be fired? >> well, as i said last night and earlier today, they need to be held responsible for their actions, and not just firing. so there is an investigation going on by the buffalo police department. they do deserve due process. but there also is investigation going on in the erie county district attorney's office. and our district attorney, john flynn, is not afraid to take on police officers who step over the line. i think it's important

braxton bragg, a slave owner in chattanooga. on and on, you get the point.war upon the united states to fight for their rights to own and rape and kill black americans. now, the white house cannot defend the fact that a u.s. military base is named after someone believed to have headed the georgia klan, so instead they talk about how we won two world wars with soldiers trained on those ten bases. four of these forts were named in the 19 teens. six of them were named in the 1940s. these bases were not named after the civil wars, an attempt at national reconciliation. they were named in the 20th century has a way of honoring the racist lost cause that the generals fought. the keyword in that phrase, lost. they lost. and rightfully so. their cause was immoral. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany arguing the bases should not be named. asked hypothetically this week, where does it snend do we take way honors to george washington or thomas jefferson? that's a fine question and i don't have an answer. washington and jefferson had slaves, though their career

--will hear from marion host: we will hear from marion in chattanooga. i a great with some of the things you are saying. my concern is with some people who call in. whenever you talk about protests and the police they want to bring up chicago. our tax dollars pay police. we have a right to protest the police. it would make sense that we went a chicago to try to get solution but not protest the killing chicago. you think more transparency should be part of the police. there are situations when there is abuse. all police are not bad, but there does need to be more transparency the police department. thank you. host: what are your thoughts. guest: it will make policing better. it will not to be a fiasco and you will have hours of nothing notuse the here you are going to find abuse. we need to know where the grands elected officials slam and have no solutions. people insequential the highest offices national police. we will go to chris. caller: the police have become militarized, what does the guest about crating a new , maybe afor police police code of cond

i was honored -- i met congressman lewis in 1992 when i was a reporter for the chattanooga times. as you know, he communicates this remarkable sense of calm, serenity, and justice. what i wanted to do, i was in selma with him, with a delegation back in march, and have always -- i talked to him for years, and i've always wanted to write about his theological understanding of the world. people like me argue, and i've argued in books, that, you know, you live with tragedy, you live with ambiguity. the arc of a moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. president trump has the same view. it is based on reinhold and niebuhr and others. it is comforting for white folks, people who look like me. i'm a privileged white guy, and things tepid s tend to work ou in america. the arc of a moral universe won't bend unless there are people like john lewis insisting that it swerve. >> should that bridge be renamed? >> absolutely. edmund pettus, by the way, was a confederate general who was a grand dragon of the kkk. john lewis and jose williams in 1965, in the middle of the afternoon, le

i think we had two when i was growing up in chattanooga that most of the people that i knew that encounteredt have pleasant encounters with them because it was their job to keep us in line in a specific way. that's always been the case. one of my favorite or the favorite saying i had when i was an young revolution was the h. brown stock market. "at a certain point, caution barks cowardice. no slaves should die a natural death." you have to understand that there are times when you're not being a coward. all you're doing is making sure you survive a specific situation and how it has to be done. it can be difficult. people don't give you that option a lot these days, when you see the videos of how police interact with people of color. you see that they don't give you that option a lot of times. >> i just want to be clear because i think maybe some people who read this interview in print will hear you say something should be blown up. i know what you mean, you're speaking metaphorically about the systematic change that needs to take place. not just in police, but in the education system and how

. >> reporter: newly released video from outside chattanooga shows sheriff's deputies stopping and talking reginald herrington junior. they took him into custody for illegally walking on a road way as they lead him in handcuffs to a vehicle, a struggle begins. herrington collapses with one deputy on top of him and three others begin striking him with their batons. for over five minutes, the officers beat and hold herrington on the ground. herrington is charged with resisting arrest and assault on police officers, one of the deputies accusing him of reaching for his gun but after reviewing the video from may 23rd, which he makes public, the hamilton district attorney general neal pix ton drops all charges and requests they the deputies for possible excessive use of force calling what he saw in the video troubling. regional head of the union representing the deputies defended their actions as the force necessary to make the arrest. >> 95% of every video you've seen of a police involved arrest or shooting doesn't look good. our job just doesn't look good on video. >> hey, you got your i.d. on

. >> we will hear from marion chattanooga tennessee welcome. >> there is a point i wanted to disagreeg but as you went on i began to agree with some of the things you are saying but my concern is with some of the people that calling. whenever you talk about protesting the police they want to bring up chicago. first of all, we pay police. our tax dollars pay police so we have the right to protest the police it would not make us any sense to Ãbi hope that answers the question of people calling mcguire they protesting the police killings but not the killings in chicago. secondly, i do think more transparency should be part of the police. i do believe in cameras. there are situations where there are abuse. all police are not bad but there does need to be more transparency within a police department and that's what i need to say. thank you. >> on body cameras.eugene o'donnell, what are your thoughts? >> i should say, legitimate protests have made policing better and will continue to make policing better. body cameras are a done deal. ...... notuse the here you are going to find abuse. we n

middle tennessee campaign, it rained and rained and rained throughout that from nashville towards chattanooga. a similar blight has befallen the federal army at this time as well. in massachusetts recalled, the weather was stormy and the water was high, flooding the roads and country for miles. one storm only seemed to give way to another. that meets the roads exceedingly sloppy, slovenly, and very difficult to move the wagons through. one of the other things that impeded the movement of the wagons through the area of the ferry was the fact that the confederates had taken to planting what they called infernal machines, landmines, artillery shells, percussion fuses. that inhibited the movement of the federals through that area. one of the locations the federals had centered about was forpot, a junction point the right wing. sherman in early january sent word that general howard should be at battaglia on the 15th and slocum on the north bank of the savannah river the same day. general howard was on time, as osborne would note. he has a marvelous diary. artillerists 10 to write marvelous diaries

one of the first cases having to do with price gouging was outside chattanooga and running to get therice of online typing $70 per container. if you could talk to me about your participation with local and state officials and how you work with them. if you all could talk just a little bit about how you work with your state and local law enforcement partners. >> one of the fbi strengths is working with our federal and state partners and also working in the environment it has been very challenging. that it hasn't detoured our ability to coordinate with our state and local partners. there are a number of ways and one of the questions is how does the fbi received information relative to the scheme is. obviously there is a wide range but with our state and local partners, we are receiving a lot of information relative to the fraud. so, because we operat because tk force environment in many of our offices there that is our violent task force he would have pivoted to address a part of the schemes that we are seeing. it is just a continual practice of working very closely with our state and l

one of the first cases, pardon me, having to do with price gouging was two brothers outside of chattanooga and they were buying hand sanitizers and running up the price on-line from 8 to $70 per container. if you would, talk to me about your participation with local and state officials and how you work with them? and i think mr. shiver this is probably best to you and if you all will talk a little bit how you work with your state and local law enforcement partners. >> so one of the fbi's strengths is working with our federal, state and local partners and obviously, working with in the covid-19 environment has been very challenging, but that has not deterred our ability to coordinate with our state and local partners. there are a number of ways and i think one of the previous questions, how does the fbi receive information relative to the broad schemes. there's a wide range, but through our state and local partners, we're receiving information relative to covid-19 fraud. so because we operate in a task force environments, a lot of our task forces have pivoted to address the covid-19 fraud s

happening with my small entities as they try to figure out okay i lost my store in amarillo, texas or chattanoogasee, i guess i'll set up a direct digital basis and set up as a partner with facebook or walmart and sell direct to my customer here's the trick you can lose half your sales, half which represented your retail business and if you're able to capture that customer direct you'll make the same cash flow because now you're making 100% margin instead of 50% remarkably in locations like hudson yards where i had stores or in boston they are gone at least we're not using them. those he company have actually achieved better than forecast free cash flow in this last four months this digitization in america is why the markets are buoyant. what happens to landlords i'm not feeling so good about them it's not just the office space we won't be opening any marginal likes when this is over. if we have a retail store in c grade strip mall we just won't re-open it i'm not the only person saying this you ask me why the value of banks are impeded or why people are questioning rates of real estate the world

marvin is retired military in chattanooga. thank you for being with us.ler: thank you so very much. as a retired military person, a vietnam veteran, on the most decorated company clerk of the vietnam war. may 25 is my day in tennessee. in 1969 and saw in 1970 every college student -- the essays government shooting at their own people. children. togod, they will do this white people. what will they do to any other race? beenhe things that have changed around as far as race relationships, as far as threats, it has been totally -- by the president of the united states. isthis particular period, it leading us to a civil war. him in hise to ask this person -- this disbursement of troops of black neighborhoods, what happened at michigan when you're armed ofizen's stood in the face authority? host: thank you for being with us this morning. any thoughts? guest: thank you for calling in. it is an honor to hear from you. this is a frequent complaint i have seen. clearly armed protesters who are white stood at the state capital. the president said they have a great

--will hear from marion host: we will hear from marion in chattanooga.reat with some of the things you are saying. my concern is with some people who call in. whenever you talk about protests and the police they want to bring up chicago. our tax dollars pay police. we have a right to protest the police. it would make sense that we went a chicago to try to get solution but not protest the killing chicago. you think more transparency should be part of the police. there are situations when there is abuse. all police are not bad, but there does need to be more transparency the police department. thank you. host: what are your thoughts. guest: it will make policing better. it will not to be a fiasco and you will have hours of nothing notuse the here you are going to find abuse. we need to know where the grands elected officials slam and have no solutions. people insequential the highest offices national police. we will go to chris. caller: the police have become militarized, what does the guest about crating a new , maybe afor police police code of conduct? t

man in the confederate army, brad commanded forces that were so badly defeated at the battle of chattanooga in 1863 that he ultimately resigned. those are just a few examples. fort hood, fort lee, fort a.p. hill, fort polk, camp bough bough -- beauregard. they are not named for heroes, not named for men's who risked their lives defending the united states and its soldiers. they are named for men who took up arms against the united states of america and killed american soldiers in the defense of slavery. they are the names of men who were directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans in the defense of slavery. those who complain that removing the names of traitors from these basis ignores history ought to learn some history themselves. these bases were not named in the years following the civil war, no, they were named decades and decades later during the jim crow era to try to strengthen a movement to reinforce white sprem sit. as the nation prepared to fight world war i, the army needed more bases to train new draftees, the military decided to establish half the