. >>> he was like chaz in "the royal tannenbaums." preternatural ability to read the markets.ee you guys. 15 years later? >> it's been great. >> great to see you in person. word association. we have so much to get to. ceo, the rich get richer, like ceos. they're paid. >> $14.2 million is the median pay now for ceos. it's up about 11%. that's been a function of two things. one is you could argue inflation. but the craziest b part about that story, if you get underneath the numbers, is during the pandemic, a number of ceos went to their boards and said, you know what, got to readjust for us here because they all thought the world was coming to an end. they said readjust downward. effectively they were able to inflate, if you, will the pay even more because they were able to take the numbers down back in 2020. that's what you're saying now. >> 15 years, haven't we been talking about this for 15 years? >> we've been talking about it. by the way, don't you think it's changing now? >> is it? >> i don't know if ceo pay is changing, but i know we'll probably talk about unions. i think