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we began funding, separatist and terrorist movements and organizations in chechnya for example, which led to misery and countless debts. he said new things since then had grown worse and worse. we have sheep continued the waves of expansion, nato expansion towards russia. despite the fact that nato promised russia, but that wouldn't happen after the collapse of the soviet union. the situation since then vladimir putin says, has continued to work with nato, a considering ukraine's application to join, which potentially means american missiles stationed in ukraine. the flight of those missiles would be at 10 minutes flight time to moscow. they were hypersonic missiles, 5 minutes launch from ukraine to reach moscow, which for russia is entirely unacceptable. it leaves no time to react, which is why russia, as low as drawn its red line, which is why russia now demands security guarantees that noted, nita won't expand that infrastructure into ukraine. this is a matter in which russia's prepared to take the most the severe measures that may put in also said that even if security guarantees

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united states, even with him, began for funding various separatist terrorist gro movements grouped in chechnya, for example, which caused all manner of problems and colossal deaths in russia to chechen. was it ever since then? it has been an escalation relations of worse and worse than the spot. the fact that the russia was promised by the united states get off to the collapse of the soviet union than they to wouldn't expand. we have seen 5 waves of expansion, all of them towards russia and now with, with talk of a ukraine ascending to nato. that is a red line for rush ass. vladimir putin, as has previously said, he gave concrete examples of why that is unacceptable. if now the fly tom, for, for me salsa for nato missiles, american missile station, in europe to moscow, about 10 minutes, the flight time of miss alt stationed in ukraine, again, american missiles potentially stacy, the new credit hypersonic missiles would be 5 minutes, 5 minutes, which is hardly enough time to react if, if the worst case scenario transpires. and that is why vladimir putin said now is the time for guarantees for l

tidmore they began, he said, financing various separatists and terrorist organizations, including in chechnya, which caused a huge toll huge, stolen in people's lives in damage. and since then, relations have grown really worse and worse now they, they were promised. russia was promised after the fall of the u. s. a saw that it wouldn't expand. and since then, we have seen 5 waves of expansion war towards russia and we have reached the situation now like we're putting says that if nato miss all the station in ukraine, if you create a sense to native, the flight time for, for missiles, for american miss alt potentially station in ukraine, hypersonic missiles to moscow, 5 minutes, which is barely enough time to react. and now these for russia, a red line. and we have seen vladimir putin says in previous years, the united states using and abusing international law as they see fit when it is to their advantage. they, are they a sponsor? and they are exposed to the push through un resolutions and they use the u. s. when it isn't in their advantage, they entirely ignore the un, for example, that he

. >> or chechnya. let's face it. the russians have experienced their own forever wars, michael. and those ghosts rattle around moscow. putin is trying to weigh that precise calculus. if he does go across that border, he'll do it swiftly. h he'll try to carve out a chunk that creates a land bridge from mother russia to crimea. he's not hanging around for a long fight in ukraine. >> okay, admiral. here's another thought in my mind. is it in the united states' best interest to have ukraine in nato? and i ask that question because i'm sure many people are watching this discussion tonight, alarmed at the thought that the united states could get dragged into this, if ukraine is in nato, then that prospect of u.s. troops being deployed, american men and women, becomes much more likely. >> it does indeed. and in my view, we ought to be very measured in actually bringing ukraine or any other new nation into nato, michael. we have 30 countries in nato today. we have added several in the last few years, in the balkans. 30 is a pretty good number, but that does not mean we cannot have close

reason to think it would be a bad idea for russia to invade ukraine, because if they couldn't handle chechnyay republic of a million or so people, how would they handle a relatively modern european state of 40 million? they may be able to take kiev, as richard said, but that doesn't mean they'll be able to hold the country without a lot of cost. the question is what is he trying to get out of it right now. we haven't quite figured that out. it's kind of a manufactured crisis. ukraine wasn't about to join nato. nato wasn't about to expand any further. these demands that he's put on the table aren't things that are at issue anyway, even if the west won't accept them because they don't want to tie their hands on a point of principle. that's the big question, what is putin trying to get out of this. >> i guess the following question would come up, in regards to europe, if we're talking about the united states still, how reliable does europe see our decisionmaking right now, ali? >> that's a very good question. i mean, after everything that's happened in the united states, after the pullout in afg

human rights violation in the present most dramatically in moscow's camp campaigns against rebels in chechnya it is has not mix dwell with the increasing in deleterious rule. and now, after more than 30 years, the russian government has succeeded. they have shut down memorial. russia's largest and most prominent human rights organization. system sibley, the crimes were not abiding by russia's foreign agent law. under which they had branded memorial as a tool of foreign actors working or trying to undermine russia. but state prosecutors are not shy about the real beef with memorial. it makes russia look bad. in fact, one prosecutor said, quote, why instead of taking pride for our country do they suggest that we repent for our pitch dark past? an argument that would sound familiar to anyone following the fights over how we teach our own history in this country. the washington post editorial board wrote, this week the reminder of the pass pains mr. putin who wants to airbrush away such dark memories and replace them with gauzy recounts of soviet triumphs as he goes about eradicating what is left

human rights violations in the present, most dramatically in moscow's campaign against rebels in chechnya. it's a mission that has not mixed well with the increasingly authoritarian rule of vladimir putin who has been cracking down on dissidents and civil society for years now. and now, after more than 30 years, the russian government has succeeded.au 0 they have shut down memorial, russia's largest and most prominent human rights organization. ostensibly, memorial's crime was not properly abiding by russia's foreign agent law under which the government had essentially branded memorial as a tool of foreign actors working or trying to undermine russia. but state prosecutors were not shy about the real beef with memorial, that it makes russia look bad. in fact, one prosecutor said of memorial, quote, why instead of taking pride in our country do they suggest that we repent for our pitch dark past, an argument that will doubtlessly sound familiar to anyone about fights how we teach our own history in this country. "the washington post" editorial board wrote this week, quote, the reminder of

and so he could, putin, get bogged down the way he did in chechnya, the way the russians in afghanistan know a bit about. and then treasure. big sanctions. cut him off from the swift system, go after the oligarchs, perhaps even putin and lavrov personally. use the nor stream 2 pipeline as leverage. i'm sure the president will be doing so today. let's hope vladimir putin gets the message. >> in our closing minute, general, why do you think he asked for this call and why is vladimir putin doing this now? is it because he thinks president biden is in a weak position politically as he is focused on problems ranging from the pandemic to inflation, is he looking for an opening? what's your assessment? >> i think he is -- i think he is following an old russian proverb, which is when you probe with a bayonet, if you encounter mush, keep going. if you hit steel, withdraw. he wants to take the temperature. he wants to see what the president puts on the table in terms of costs and he wants to see if there's any kind of benefit to russia here. so i'd say it's a probing call. i wouldn't look for any