mean i think they are using the al quaida brand, so to speak, to recruit to bring in people from chechynia, north african jihaddist, libya, elsewhere, al quaida, as we think of al quaida it is bin ladennism. it is trying to attack the new york, washington, and that trend is really on the decline. we with have to look at al quaida really as a group of local movements, all focused on the politics and the environment of the country's they are operating. and i sigh stew wary as having no influence on what is going on in stir yeah at all. >> jack, i saw you nodding in agreement? >> i agree, we look at what he has said, his influence is far more in egypt than it is in syria. he is originally from egypt himself when you look at the arab spring, and realize what has happened there, that influences there because i think he has that personal connection. but there really is no command or control, and that has been one of the things that the west has been effective in lopping off. that doesn't mean they are gone, just means it is not being directed from elsewhere. >> you are in minneapolis where there