in the west of ukraine and you know about the historic past partially, they were in -- checkseckered flag lovenia. probably they have something nside. to today's e.u. countries, they have give some special -- they were the second rate people in those historic states. it is forgotten but some people still remember that and that's where the nationalism come from, i think. central, east and, southeast of russia, which is deeply rooted in the russian states. there, people have some difficulty. now, they're part of ukraine put together part by part and of course, it's not easy for people to set up reservations to understand each other. we need to help them do that as uch as possible. what would be our goal in this situation, the role of a great neighbor of a close relative. we are partners beyond the ocean or in europe, i hope so. but at the same time, and i just about russia and they wanted to pull us apart to .ake us smaller i hope they're guided by that but i think that they should here because they look at the trends for the nearest future and for the way this entire orld and europe from -- should