tell me why you don't think it ought to be cheney. i went over to the governor's mansion and sat down in the small room, the austin library with him. sitting about as close as i am to you, for about 30, 35 minutes i laid out the chase against cheney. end i had eight reasons whereby with starting we didn't need to worry about wyoming. cheney was a conservative member of congress and we'd have to defend his voting record, including voting against the resolution, calling nelson down, starting at the age -- you know, in his mid 30s and have to defend questions of his health and fitness. occasionally governor bush said i'd agree with that, what if i said this. what would you say if i said that. at the end of it when i exhausted my list and he said, do you have anything else. he turns to the guy, he said dick, there's the reasons why. it goes to show a couple of things about bush. one is he views this as governing decision, not political. you are right on most or all of that stuff. that's all politics. you can deal with that. my job is to w

it says something about cheney. he says that was my job, to think through those questions and he wasn't going to take it personal. >> host: what is a rookie in campaign? >> guest: it's not what it's normally detected. in the chapter for a talk about the ugly things people say are the heart of supposedly the kind campaigns i ron, most of which are fear based, mud ball politics and i have a couple of quotes from people who commented. one is my personal favorite the guy says rove and his minions never stops surprising me coming up with something that would even shock a 60 year old greyhound bus station hooker, and of quote. those views are based on a very, very negative view of the electorate. you know, this fundamentally say the electric can be won over by the kind of politics and i don't see the american voters, particularly high-profile race is like for the senator for governor or for president are motivated by those kind of base instincts. in fact i think they reject them. people who cross those lines and from thos

and invited me over he didn't say she was going to dick cheney there. he goes to show a couple things about roche. one thing he views this as a governing decision on a political decision. becoming the next interviewer right on most or all that stuff, but that's politics. my job is to worry if something happened to me who would the country have confidence in? second abolish of his style which is he likes to have people around him who have strong opinions or in many not agree with this and are willing to lay him out in a respectful, straightforward way in front of others who might have a different opinion. and it was quite an experience. >> host: did your opinion of dick cheney change over the eight years? >> guest: well, my opinion of him when i left the room i said great as irritated the guy who will be the next vice president. and then we became friends. he never help it against me. he said that was my job. my job was to go to those questions and not take it personal. >> host: with a roving campaign? >> guest: is not what is normally depict it. the ugl

he knew i was against cheney. there were five or six of us who knew about this and he's for us to secrecy. he said i want you to come to the governor's mansion and lee of the case. and just said be prepared, tell me why you don't think it ought to be cheney's went to the governor's mansion and sat down in a small room in the austin a library with him and sitting just about as close as i am to do and for about 30 or 35 minutes maybe a few cases further apart laid out the case against cheney and i had eight reasons why starting with we didn't need to worry about wyoming, that cheney had been a very conservative members wyoming and we had to defend his voting record including voting against a resolution calling for the release of nelson mandela from prison that he had a heart attack starting at the age in his mid-30s and we would have to defend questions of his health and fitness and so forth and we went on 30 or 35 minutes and as i laid out the case occasionally governor bush would say i agree but what if i said thi

i like to see dick cheney exposed. chris matthews called him the troll that's under the bridge. >> larry: what's your read on him, on dick cheney? >> you know, i wish, as we were just talking about, i wish anybody in the democratic party had that sort of fortitude, that sort of perseverance to stick by what he thinks is right. i'm not questioning his sincerity. i question his intelligence. i don't think he reads things right, that we use the army to fight terrorism is just wrong. they don't have an army, they have exploding underwear. it's just not a wise decision. but he's also -- what i don't admire is he's a liar, you know. >> larry: whoa. >> yes, he is. joe biden had that correct. for him to go after the democrats for treating terrorists the exact same way his administration did. and, of course -- >> larry: treat who wrong? >> many of them. they were all tried in courts in america and all put away. if i was a criminal or terrorist, whatever you want to call them, yes, i would fear the most a prosecutor, a seasoned

this dick cheney on february 4, 2009. said when we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the united states against people who are absolutely committed to doing everything they can to kill americans than i worry. these are evil people and we are not going to win this fight by turning our cheap. of it hadn't been for what we did with respect to the enhanced interrogation techniques for high-value detainees, then we would have been attacked again. those policies were put in place in my opinion and perhaps a little crucial to getting us to the last seven plus years without a major casualty attack on the u.s.. there ensued after the statement remarkable dialogue between the newly in not great president and the just having left office vice president on the merits of the necessity for torture in u.s. government policy. it was remarkable couple of months that culminated in president obama's speech to the national archives and the speech given on the same

and to be fair to liz cheney if you google taliban and liz cheney, millions of people have called her a member of the taliban and made similar charges. but it's a series of steps away from, you know, the normal way any of us should be talking to each other. >> the idea that the al qaeda 7, i mean there are those of us who are old enough to remember the chicago 7 when insightment to riot and the seven protest, militants, whatever you want to call them, disrupted . i just thought it was more than unfortunate. i thought it was offensive. and i thought it was frankly unamerican in the true sense of the word. >> lehrer: unamerican. >> unamerican in the true sense of the word that is a great american tradition. lindsay graham, the republican senator from south carolina defended it very well. he said i owe it to my country and to the legal system in my country to be sure that everybody gets a good defense, the best defense possible. >> lehrer: david, in fact, they modelled the hot words about this whole dispute has been among conservatives, between conservatives, how do you read that? >> a l

wei said he tried to members of vice cheney's staff and they had assured him it had been blocked to the passage of the president, that was simply not true. he was wrong when he said he disapproved of the british claim. he never understood and never knew the basic of the british claim was. he said he was conclusive in attempting saddam had never do it. he came back and reported about a previously unknown accounts by saddam's people working through third-party to force the government to accept a trade delegation. and the government said we only trade one thing. we're not taking saddam's trade delegation. we know that he was one. in fact find out lied when he said he was the guy that disproved the italian forgeries. documents to show up a month after he returns from africa, that he had no role in disproving. in fact i was later questioned by the senate intelligence community he said he had a literary lion, and kept at the end of this in order to investigate the claim that his wife name had been leaked, there was a three year long investigation and in the book i write about it in detail. an

instead, for reasons i don't understand, bush and cheney led the panic. i'm not sure they lied. i think they believed what they were saying. why, is kind of inexrepublicable. remember that vice president cheney in august of 2002 said, there is no doubt that iraq has weapons of mass destruction. i remember people in the military saying, i have lots of doubts but the vice president must know something that i don't know. so i think they persuaded themselves, they really did believe these things and were kind of stunned in 2003 to find out that iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. now, this wasn't because the evidence was persuasive, it was because they were very selective in their use of evidence. they believed the tiny grains of things that supported them and to disregard the huge chunks of evidence that argued against them. host: winchester, virginia. caller: good morning, i would like to thank c-span for givering us the opportunity to voice our pns and be involved in the political process. go you bet, sir. go ahead. caller: as in our own civil war, the repercusions wen

. >> we have a great healthcare system if you are a sheik or dick cheney. >> that's not true. >> we have a great healthcare system if you have healthcare. >> a clarification question. >> yes. >> we are talking about healthcare and doesn't that include dental care? >> it could be. >> it is like delta dental. >> i was in the sorority delta dental. i pledged. >> i think they ticked you out when they found out your horrible, horrible secret. >> it is not just humans with tales of whoa. it is robots. here is one right now telling us what has made his life hard. >> hello, greg. thank you for having me on your show, and congratulations on your weight loss you look fantastic. as for bill shultz, i wish i could leave robot village and purchase a gun. then i would shoot him in the face and dump his disgusting body. and then i would dance like a cheerful chip monk as it was reduced to tiny morsels of flesh. sorry to digress. the dpakt is, as a robot, i have not experienced much suffering in my life. my father happened to be a vacuum cleaner. he jammed the whole thing with industrial strength lotion

the ad makes the point bem obama vowed to change bush-cheney policies and, i'm quoting now, " restore america's values of justice and due process." of course, those values didn't exist under the bush administration, according to the aclu. they then say that they are shocked and concerned that the president is considering changing the 9/11 defendants' trials from criminal court back to military commissions. they say that our criminal justice system will resolve the cases more quickly and more credibly than the military commissions will. that's a matter of dispute which i will get back to in just a moment. but then there is this sentence ." president obama can vigorously prosecute terrorists and keep us safe without violating our constitution." the implication, of course, being if you go to military commission, you're violating the constitution. now, if that's what they mean to convey -- and it's clear that they do -- the writers of this ad are obviously intentionally misrepresenting the law. the united states supreme court has upheld military commissions. go back to the 1950's case of

george bush and dick cheney vae vetoed the idea. that disturbed me. number one, did they want this guy to escape so they left him an out? number two, what are these two bozos doing making a combat decision to an elite delta force member or delta force commander when you got dick cheney who got five deferments from vietnam and you got george bush who couldn't make it to one year's national guard meetings? these guys are making a command combat decision to the elite delta force, and then all you heard from them was, we let our generals call the shots. well, it clearly wasn't that case in the book i read by dalton furey, who was the commander of the u.s. forces chasing osama bin laden in tora bora right after 9/11. >> larry: did you agree with us going to afghanistan? >> initially i did, because i felt that, you know, they were the people, al qaeda was the people who attacked us, and that we needed to go get these people if they're going to continue it attack us, absolutely. i did not agree at all with iraq. they told us there were these 19 hijackers, la

was it just last month, ed, you said they ought to rip out the heart of dick cheney?tting the best health care in the country. wait a minute. no, no -- >> it's that kind of rhetoric. it comes from both sides. >> it's not rhetoric. the fact is that was said on a radio talk show and that doesn't excuse it, but the fact is i said, we want a successful conclusion for the vice president because we want him to become the poster child. everybody in the country should have the same health care as dick cheney because most -- >> rip his heart out, ed? >> wait a minute. and stuff it back in him and make sure he survives and has the best health care. you know, this is what happens in america. making a joke and then -- >> my point is it happens on both sides. >> no, it doesn't happen on both sides because i haven't cut anybody's fuel line, ernest. you know that. >> ted kusinski, the uni bomber murdered people. he was an environmental extremist. it does happen on both sides. >> it's not happening on both sides at this level. you know it's not. >> i received death threats. i had a m

>> unlike dick cheney he wasn't calling someone that name. >> bill: no.ut did he not see the microphone there? you see, it picks it up. >> he was jubilant. american people. come on. >> bill: when you are jubilant, colmes, do you use that word. >> never unless -- i think it but i never -- >> bill: you never get that jubilant. >> hardly ever. now, u.s.a. gallup poll today shows that things have turned around. most americans, 4 wers, not most, close to most support this health care plan things are changing now. >> bill: let's let that shake out for a couple of days. how about gloating in the face of a very controversial situation? do you think that's wise? >> i'm not sure i would use the word gloating. look, i think they are celebrating. certainly you would have the right-wing celebrating if they were able to defeat this bill, you could be sure they would be gloating. >> bill: that is true. >> that's just the way it is. people tend to -- >> bill: gloating on one side makes it okay to gloat on the other side. >> i wouldn't say that. it's part of the human con

it's gotten a lot of talk even last sunday on the talk shows when you heard cheney and joe biden they were debating this jury subject and i think this book sparked a lot of the current debate. >> host: what's coming up for 2010? >> guest: you see new gingrich in the booth and we have a big new new gingrich book coming in april. we are excited about that. we published his last three big non-fiction political books and they've alleen best sellers. his last big political book was called of real change in the camaguey in the presidential campaign so he hasn't had a book since president obama has come into office and now is his chance to give a report card on how the obama administration has done and what he feels we need to do to get the country back on track. >> and we see that and culture is appear. is she won of your authors as well? >> she's a political commentator for human events which is a weekly conservative newspaper our parent company publishes and human events has been in business over 60 years and ann coulter is one of their best loved writers and she writes for human events a

she's running a lot of great projects f us, including vice president cheney's book, which we will belishing next year. >> thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. up next, after words. this week former massachuset ces -- massachusetts governor mitt romney. in it re-examines what are the greatest challenges to the nation today and provides his own blue prin for american progress in years to come 37 the expected 2012 candidate talks with juan williams of national public radio. >> i'm juan williams. today on after words, mitt romney. governor, thank for joining us. mitt romney's new book is called "no apology:case for american greatness." mitt romney, everybody assumes this book is the kickoff to your 2012 presidential campaign. are they right? >> welsh it's too early to tell. i haven't made a decision in that regard. frankly, the book has come from my experience over the years working at the private sector, working in other countries, seeing some of those countries are making a lot of progress. we always assume we're way ahead of the rest of the world an other nations are catch

obviously doesn't seem to think biden's curse word was a gasp and remember when the vice president dick cheneysed the same word, but aimed it as a u.s. senator? not many people cared then either. sure, there used to be words you would use, but now tell me, exactly where is that polite society? send your answers to that question to mcginty's mail bag. the address is mailbag@wusa9.com. that is our report. i'll be back here tonight. we'll see you monday at 7:00. as for later tonight, i'll be right back here with anita brikman at 11:00. don't forget, log on any time you like at wusa9.com. i'll see you later. hi. i'm jim perdue. in case of everyday emergencies... guys, go get changed! ...or soccer practice, it's important to be prepared for dinner. that's why i've prepared my perdue perfect portions fresh chicken breasts. they're individually wrapped, so you can cook what you need and store what you don't. we're not playing helicopter now. ready when you are, they're trimmed of fat and consistently sized to cook in just 10 minutes. life's not perfect. that's why there's perdue perfect portions. [ m

i might as well ask miss cheney university. where are you from?phia. >> and how many are here? >> about 45 people. >> is this just a trip to see new york? >> we wanted to be on "good morning america." >> well. and that's how she gets to be miss cheney university. let's get to the boards. all the good answers. we'll show you what's going on this morning. the twitter picture out of big sky, montana, this morning. why? look how gorgeous it is. montana has been missing the storms. the next round will also go south. you see there's some mountain snow in california and a lot of coastal rain, as well. we'll see some beautiful weather right in the middle of the country. look at dallas showing off at 51 trees. and corpus with great lots of stuff going on i in the next hour. george? >> thanks, sam. we're going to turn, now, to the challenges in american education. every 26 seconds a teenager drops out of high school in this country. it's a shocking statistic that sheds light on a nationwide crisis. one that general colin powell and his wife, alma, are deter

liz cheney doesn't hold a u.s.enate seat, she doesn't have a power to call committee hearings to challenge those who dare to disagree with her. and she isn't practicing her dem graggy in an area of widespread fear. nevertheless she has slipped easily into the role of joseph mccarthy. the daughter of the former vice president, she has her father's means in, his dark views of the world and auto cratic sense of authority. like her father, she disrespects the constitution, we rates the rule of law, and sneers at diplomacy. guest: that's certainly a way of encouraging moderation and bipartisanship. host: the issue is she called the department of justice the department of jihad. who are these government officials? whose values do they share? she was going after eric holder. guest: whoever she is going after, it's precisely that kind of rhetoric that is personally attacking somebody. host: from who guest: from both. i have a rule that we enforce very strictly at the washington examiner and the editorial section. you can s

his name is cheney mason. he's one of the most respected defense lawyers in the state of florida. death penalty qualified, orlando-based, covered many cases. nancy, you and i on court tv followed many of the cases he covered. he's now a member of the defense team. >> and i understand he's hopping onboard pro bono for free. >> that's right. he's very close to retirement, and he decided he wanted to do the case. he said in a press conference he wanted to do it. he thinks it will be fun. he doesn't have to do this case. he's had a very, very long career, but he wants to get involved. >> let's unleash the lawyers. joining us tonight, expert in florida law, bill sheaffer, former prosecutor, wftv legal analyst. renee rockwell, veteran defense attorney, handling felony cases out of atlanta. and out of new york, practicing in multiple jurisdictions, along with the other two lawyers, mickey sherman, defense attorney, author of "how can you defend those people?" first to you, sheaffer. surprised about the turn of events today? >> absolutely not surprised. and i'm going to tell you something

dick cheney used to play it with a gun, "kill the old guy." too much tickling in congress. later that night on larry king, massa denied that he ever groped anyone and refused to answer this very direct question from larry. >> are you gay? >> well, here's that answer. i'm not going to answer that. in the year 2010, why don't you ask my wife? ask my friends. ask the 10,000 sailors i served with in the navy. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: sure. maybe you should have stopped with the friends. by the way, a reporter did ask some of his old shipmates from the navy, and some said he was known for giving unwanted massages. one sailor said he found massa on the top bunk trying to unbutton his pants and, quote, snorkel him. now -- i don't know exactly what that means, but -- if you're tickling and snorkeling -- you probably have some explaining to do to your wife. tickling your employees is tricky. yes, as an employer, you have to do it, but -- how do you do it properly before a tickle becomes a grope? i don't know. fortunately, we dug up this instructional vid

bush and vice president cheney. david, from a grassroots view, what do you think of the plan. >> i think it's ooh helpful step forward. in the coming year, over five million americans as a result of no fault of their own, were set up for failure with option a.r.m. loans that are adjusting or struggling because of high unemployment rates. the obama administration is trying to use the fha loan program which was set up during the great depression to motivate investors and others to give consumers an opportunity to refinance or to stay in their homes in the hope that the market would change. it's not enough though. more needs to be done. this program certainly is not going to reach all of the americans who are in trouble. >> ron christie? >> i'm sympathetic to the intent of the administration, but i think it's terrible public policy. first of all, you're talking $14 billion they seek to use from the t.a.r.p. program. the last time i checked, the t.a.r.p. program was not to be a slush fund for the administration. i think

let's all just imagine for a minute if vice president bush or vice president cheney had done the samee east wing of the white house. i think we all know what the democrats would be saying. cuban leader fidel castro also thinks the passage of the health care law was a big deal calling it a miracle and a major victory for the obama presidency the senate went into the wee hours of the morning wrapping up the fixes to the health care law through the process known as reconciliation. the hill reports democrats celebrated by munching on lobster rolls in the honor of the late senator ted kennedy. al franken was chairing the session. as it reached a conclusion shortly before 3:00 a.m., he seemed a bit tired and confused. >> do i pound the gavel? i guess we're adjourned. oh, no. -- say that we're not adjourned? >> bret: adjourned or not, they went home regardless. and finally china's state media lashed out at internet giant google saying it is not god and accusing it of working with u.s. intelligence. a front page commentary read, quote: for chinese people google is not god. its cooperation and

as in draft dodger dick cheney attacks john kerry for being soft on defense of the country. today house minority whip eric cantor apparently consulted the rove playbook before he accused democrats of fanning the flames of violence in the wake of the health care reform vote. not to be outdone, karl rove himself said more or less the same thing. new threats today against democratic lawmakers, most notably in new york, where fbi hazmat crews responded to a call from anthony weiner's office after the congressman received a letter containing a suspicious white powder. and one received death threats and angry phone calls over his health care vote, like this one. >> hi, mr. mitchell. for the rest of your life, with the vote that you cast, you are going to have to look over your shoulder for as long as you live in this district. you are always going to have to look over your [ bleep ] shoulder, because people in your district hate your [ bleep ] face. and don't you forget it. you have just riled up people's rage. we are filled with rage and hate today towards you. hate like we have

in your book you have sarah palin but now we have a lot list cheney there is nobody in the democratic party that has that kind of a leadership who could win an election and the bush earned his hatred because of the criminal tactics he used. >> i appreciate that and thank you. >> county default the democratic party which is fairly centrist? there are no rockefeller republicans. >> okay. i will answer. >> that is the point* that i get a lot if we're not going to stop the cycle of piper partisanship we are in which is getting increasingly extreme nablus we stand up on both sides if we focus our efforts on a defining extremes will be on one side of the i/o we perpetuate the problem. the reality is there are extremes on both sides. scott brown was considered a homophobe and violence against women promoter. riverside has their extreme and those are two relatively mainstream books. of this book is not about them their powerful and influential we have to recognize if we stop this cycle before it gets out of control the only way to do with our center the politics is to be the honest brokers an

on the other hand, there was an instructive moment with the citizen attempt to arrest dick cheney whichall sort of an extremist position on the left, and this citizen, a canadian citizen came with a pink furry hat on. the way in which the left come for you they come throwing flowers and what happens in this case is not the extremism of views, what we're worried about is the extremism that is also armed, or is prepared to come with guns and with bombs. >> to correct you, karl rove, the attempt on karl rove. >> i'm sorry. karl rove. they mush. >> i have never seen them in the same place together. so it is very possible. it would explain an awful lot, wouldn't it? but back to the point this idea, certainly nobody in our lives, who lived through the '60s or '70s or read about them could not know of the groups like the sds or 68 simbionese liberation sds or the simbionese liberation ar army. what did happen to all of the, militias that just were excuses to make money off of them. what did happen to all of the, you know, armed left wing militias in this country? >> the left got behind gun con

quite as much questioning of the military or patriotism or whether joe biden is less patriotic than cheney even though they disagree fundamentally. >> guest: i'm with you on that and apart from some of my colleagues on the right that when people said we shouldn't -- you shouldn't ask questions about the iraq war and why we, are there. if you are the u.s. senate and or not there to talk about the wisdom of going to the war, what are you therefore? let's go back to the founders. if you're not supposed to ask questions about those issues what are you reduced to? absolutely. .. >> guest: the main thing is fascinating -- talk about katrina in the book. but ernie duncan was attacked, and he said -- maybe one silver lining in this cloud, katrina, is it gave the city a chance to reinvent us education system. >> host: a gaff is when you accidentally tell the truth. let me say that arnie duncan is 100% right. they have been able to rebuild the school system that is so much better than before the storm, and it's because we got the chance to say, let's see how you would do it now, charter schools, pub

vice-president dick cheney is another one.ause] and former secretary of state, jimmy baker and henry kissinger. [applause] iso appreciate their willingness to stand up for someone they knew. i want to thank my campaign chairman, jim francis, who is here tonight. our co-chairs. my finance chairman. and all the great campaign staff that worked so hard on my behalf. i will always appreciate your courageous support and tireless efforts. i want to single out the farm bureau. i tell you -- if you are ever in the trenches -- [applause] we, in texas, know how important agriculture is in our state. i have worked with the farm bureau throughout my career in the senate and in this campaign and there are no more wonderful, loyal, down-to-earth, good people who will stand on principle no matter the consequences and i love you guys, thank you. [applause] it has been a long road and we have come together to make sure that texas remains what it is today, the greatest state in america. [applause] i will work with governor perry and our fellow

the corruption of the fda and epa under bush/cheney and it still continues. the fact that our congress, both parties have sold out to corporate interests. both parties. we have to have a significant change to lead us reflect on reality and do we still want to have a country that is for the people and by the people instead of wall street? do you think we should be the more vigorous and perhaps more disruptive as well as say i am more ethical than my neighbor because compare my footprint to rush them bought for example, precocious that be done against focusing on reality? >> i am all for getting the corporation's out of politics and also about being vigorous and disruptive totally. i am not for the ethical superiority. i believe the problems that we face in terms of how we live right now are structural rather than individuals. it is not individuals that are choosing to put into a grin receptors of baby bottles it was dow chemical it was an individual's decided to rip up the l.a. tracks and force people to drive individual cars. some people in making individual

dick cheney to leahy. >> and karl rove's book reveals an f bomb from then governor bush when talking bullock. it was the only time he ever heard george w. bush use it. it's a funny little anecdote about the late democratic -- former democratic lieutenant governor of texas and then george w. bush. >> this is msnbc. ♪ [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time. time to face the pollen that used to make me sneeze, my eyes water. but with new zyrtec® liquid gels, i get allergy relief at liquid speed. that's the fast, powerful relief of zyrtec®, now in a liquid gel. zyrtec® is the fastest 24-hour allergy medicine. it works on my worst symptoms so i'm ready by the time we get to the first hole. and that's good because the competition's steep today. new zyrtec® liquid gels work fast, so i can love the air.™ caused by a completely blocked artery, another heart attack could be lurking, waiting to strike. a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix taken with other heart medicines, goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone, to provide grea

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we start with former president george bush and dick cheney on the campaign trail in 2000.ty "new york times" reporter covering their campaign. >> there's adam clymer major league [ bleep ] from the "new york times." >> oh, yeah big time. >> and michael duval caught on open mike on a televised hearing talking about extracurricular activities with not one but two lobbyists. >> so i've been getting into spanking her. yeah. i like. >> the number one comes from the great communicator himself. in 1984 while running for re-election ronald reagan was preparing for his weekly radio address when he was caught saying this over an open mike. >> i'm pleased to tell you today that i've signed legislation that i've signed legislation that will outlaw russia forever, we begin bombing in five minutes. >> ronald reagan survived that moment and we're pretty sure that vice president biden will survive his gaffe after all, in a special honorable mention in this list today remember biden's boss last year talking about kanye west? >> he's a jackass. >> coming up, blalloon boy's father is out. al

. >> larry: did you agree on the potty mouth thing when vice president cheney also used similar expression while back? >> sure, larry, yeah. he is a potty mouth too. yeah. he is a potty mouth too. but you know what's funny? i think it's interesting. i'll say what mr. romney wasn't willing to say, and that's mr. obama's a liar. he is purely a liar. he's gone and done something, larry, where half of the country didn't agree with it. so if you say when you're running you're going to do one thing -- stephen, to be fair. >> go ahead. >> larry: many didn't agree because they thought it didn't go far enough. so it wasn't just the anti-against it on the right. >> but when you don't -- when you don't get one republican vote? that's not -- remember i was on your show last time, larry. we said is the government broken? the government is broken. this is clearly a definition of that. how can a broken government fix a broken health care system, larry? >> larry: all right. i'll get aisha's thoughts, right after these words. don't go away. that's peace of mind for every size family. chevy... may the best

what dick cheney might have referred to as the last throes perhaps, bill.y have a little bit more business to go. there's a couple of votes, but they passed the rule earlier today which was a sign that democrats had the necessary 216 plus to advance their agenda in the first place. the rule was just a parameters for the debate and how they divide up the time among the republicans and democrats. once the house passes it, it can go down pennsylvania avenue to the president's desk and signed in the oval office and second is reconciliation packages of fixes and that, once it's passed the house, would go to the senate where they'll deal with it next week and if they change it there's the possibility it could come back to the house. >> bill: why bother if the president is going to sign a bill, why bother with reconciliation, a total waste of time, right? >> republicans have pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that health care reform as it's been described by the democrats in this latest incarnation of it is a done deal. >> bill: and get it down there, and

quite as much questioning of the military or patriotism or whether joe biden's less patriotic than cheney even though they disagree fundamentally. discoing with you on that. i parted from some of my colleagues on the right on this that when people said we shouldn't -- you shouldn't ask questions about the iraq war and why we, are there. if you are in the u.s. senate and or not there to talk about the wisdom of going to the war why are you there? let's go back to the founders. if you're not supposed to ask about those issues what are you reduced to? and the white house can't defend itself, why it is in iraq or why it is anywhere else, then it will take its lumps. absolutely. broad latitude for people raising these kind of questions without any issue of patriotism being raised. >> host: let's get to the issue of education because i mentioned que and arne duncan have spoken together in a few times and both education -- your education secretary for reagan. and there has been a major reform movement going on in america that involves common standards so we all know how well our kids are doing.

the weekly standard, mara liasson of national public radio, former state department official, liz cheney, and, juan williams, also from national public radio and before we start, liz, how is your dad? who suffered what was called a mild heart attack this past week. >> he's doing well and thanks for asking and probably watching us this morning, i would imagine. >> chris: we'll try to do nothing to upset him. >> it wouldn't be any fun that way... but he's doing well and i think there are two lessons from his experience and he has had coronary artery disease for 32 years and lived a very full life and you can live a full life, and his has been extraordinary with coronary artery disease but you have to be vigilant and get it checked out and not ignore the signs. >> chris: let me ask you, was high following doctors' orders on diet and exercise. >> he is good about that, and it is important, when you feel something that doesn't feel right get to the hospital right away and i know that would be the message he'd want folks out there to have. >> chris: speaking of health care, mara, it sure looks

you ask me -- >> i'm not -- >> she is referring to dick cheney talking to pat leahy saying no camerasthe senate floor. let's take a look at another remarkable image that reminds us of the now and then. this is the white house situation room. very rarely do we get to look inside that room. hillary clinton who was the poster lady for the failure of the 1994 clinton health care plan that she helped write giving the president a big congratulations hug after -- before a situation room meeting to talk about health care. james, what does that picture say to you? >> it says to me that they're pretty happy. i see general jones the marine corps. >> he has eyes in the back of his head. he is smiling as he looks forward. >> that's a nice photo. and, you know, it's a nice photo. and there was an article about how well the president and the secretary of state are getting along. and it shows. the pictures speak for themselves. >> let me walk over there is something else in this photo. most americans will never get to go into this room. you need security clearance to get into this room. both of you h

our challenges were more in the fights between defense, colin powell, and rumsfeld and cheney and kindsecurity fights and while there was tension, it's never as bad as it's being described in the papers but if you let this thing get out of control it does take on a life of its own. >> that it does. dan bartlett, it's so great to have you with us. we hope to have you back some day soon. >> thanks for that candid in the room take. it was fun. thanks, dan. >>> coming up, what do a moon walker, a "baywatch" bombshell and the mother of eight have in common? >> there's a trivia question. plus i just couldn't go on without honoring one of the founding fathers of the '80s hair band movement. on this day in 1962 jon bon jovi was born. for all the moments that make every day special. fancy feast appetizers. [dinner bell chimes] high quality ingredients like wild alaskan salmon in a delicate broth, without by-products or fillers. fancy feast appetizers. celebrate the moment. would you like that to hurt now or later? uh-- what? (announcer) pepcid® complete doesn't make you choose. it neutralizes a

the vice president at the time dick cheney was needed as the tie-breaking 51st vote. that bill among other things slashed spending for the entitlement known as medicaid. among those voting yes to change this entitlement, republican senator john mccain. in 1989, the senate used reconciliation to pass the omnibus budget reconciliation act of 1989. that legislation among other things overhauled the doctor payment system for the entitlement known as medicare. among those voting yes to change this entitlement? republican senator john mccain. but now senator john mccain says entitlements should not be part of a reconciliation process. it's too important, he says. senator mccain now proposing to outlaw something that he has done repeatedly. john mccain once again taking a strong stance against his own beliefs. health reform is going to happen. health reform is going to happen. it has passed the house. it has passed the senate. they are going to bridge the gap between the two bills using reconciliation. republicans can do nothing about it. they lost this one. but in the meant

women is that being decorative is the highest form of power, when of course that there was, dick cheneywould've gone to work every day and a sequined tutu. so what's the matter with fantasies of female power? haven't the media was provided escapist fantasies? isn't that like their job? and aren't many in the media, however belatedly, simply addressing women's demands for more representations of female achievement in control? well, yes. but there's the odd somewhat unintended consequence under the guise of escapism and pleasure. we are getting images of imagined power that mask and even a raised how much still remains to be done for girls and women. images that make sexism seem fine, even fun and that feminism is not utterly pointless, even bad for you. and if we look at what is being said about girls and women in these fantasies, while we can and should do, what we can and can't be, we will see that slithering just below the shining barrage of power is the dark, sneaky servant of sexism. there has been a bit of a generational divide and how these fantasies are presented. older women and

dick cheney used it in anger. do you have any regrets?reporter: if the white house regretted it about health care, they weren't letting on. press secretary gibbs tweeted, yes, vp, you're right. >> reporter: within two hours of his utterance it was already blazened on t-shirts. the guy known for salty language is rahm he manual who wouldn't tell on the president -- >> i do not curse in the oval office. >> does he curse? >> reporter: the curse of biden strikes the form of an actual curse. >> this is a big [ bleep ] deal. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> it was poetry to watch. he goes -- i don't want to embarrass you then ten seconds later, he did. >> you got to love him. you know. >> you do but the president is so controlled and it's hilarious to see the two of them together. he knew the second he said it the mic was still open. >> joe biden walks around with a big pin bursting the bubble. >> not intentionally, of course. >> what was going through his mind do you think? >> i don't know if much was. he was very excited. >> certai

statement that says americans in the last election rejected radical foreign policy offered back by cheney and wholeheartedly adopted by mitt romney and this policy would alienate allies and emboldened enemies. what you think it? >> guest: i don't have a lot to say but the dnc, what kind of a screen they are going to put out the areas where i think the president disappointed a lot of folks including myself was for instance when the honduran supreme court said that there anti-american process of this president violated the constitution and their military removed them from office our president said put them back which i think surprised folks, and i think that was inappropriate action. when colombia seeks a special status with the united states on a trade basis, colombia standing up to hugo chavez leedy naim this special status. that i think is a mistake. when he goes before the united nations and speaks for the first time and chastises israel in front of the united nations but has nothing to say about the palestinian group hamas launching 7,000 rockets into israel that is a mistake and of co

dick cheney, karl rove and george bush, and let us find out what happened. we need to really find out what happened because we just go by what they say. we have people there ain't been charged with nothing, they ain't done nothing yet but we've got to find out what is going on. guest: joe tweets in -- host: missouri, rod on our democrats line. caller: hello? i would like to say that i don't think that the 9/11 conspiracy theorist will ever go away. if there isn't a public trial. i don't think it is possible. host: florence, south carolina, republican line. your thoughts. go ahead. caller: -- i will put you on hold. -- host: i will put you on hold. hang in for second. your feedback. north carolina. caller: a better place to close down. washington, d.c. they gave all of our great industrial jobs away, trillions of dollars in debt, invade other nations based on lies. they are trying to pass legislation that nobody wants. trying to put women in submarines. they have no concept about creating jobs. if we close down washington, d.c., we would be better off. host:

. ♪ working on the night moves snoet >>> dick cheney. do you remember dick cheney?esident with george w. bush. he was george w. bush's sidekick. and he's best remembered for going hunting and shooting guys. and he also has a history of heart problems as well, i'll be darned, over the weekend, he had his fifth heart attack. fifth heart attack. he's okay, resting comfortably. and the doctor, after they made the diagnosis, stamped his card. and the sixth one is free. >> that's dave. tina brown and i are sitting around here. we're talking about last night's jay leno deal. nine months and one big controversy later, jay is back in late night. as nbc's rafael seth shows us, he's looking comfortable and saying there's no place like home. >> it's "the tonight show with jay leno." >> reporter: from the opening title sequence -- >> tonight jay welcomes jamie foxx. >> reporter: -- to the freshened up theme song -- everything about the new "tonight show with jay leno" seemed to project the verve and energy his short-lived primetime show lacked. >> thank you very much. >> it's a