>> cheney: fantastic.ow, i'm to the point where i literally, you know, feel like i have a new heart. a lot more energy than i had previously. there aren't any real physical limits on what i do. i fish, i hunt. and i don't ski, but that's because of my knees, not my heart. so, it's... it's been a miracle. dick cheney is a product of product of modern medicine at its best. he has suffered five heart attacks, undergone open heart surgery, multiple catheterizations and angioplasties, had a defibrillator implanted, and a pump attached directly to his heart -- all of that before his transplant at age 71. each time cheney reached the precipice of death, a breakthrough in medical technology extended his life. bad hearts run in dick cheney's family, and early on, he did little to take care of himself. he had his first cigarette at age 12, and by the time he was president ford's chief of staff at age 34, his daily staples included fatty food, beer, and up to three packs a day. >> cheney: all the cigarette companies

the world and all their last names are cheney, lynn, liz, mary cheney.y are a tight-knit family, supportive of each other and sometimes distrustful of outsiders. it caused a rift in politics, his friend al simpson, there's some consternation. you mentioned liz cheney and tea party. it's an interesting balance she's trying to have here. she's trying to ride the tea party wave with her focus on domestic issues but she herself is more conservative. her father never big on democracy issue, that's something liz cheney feels passionately about. not much of an issue in this campaign. >> do bush and cheney communicate. >> they have a proper relationship, appropriate relationship but they are not buddies. they don't spend a a lot of time on the phone together. last time in april when president bush opened his library. he was gracious to vice president cheney from the stage. it was interesting that vice president cheney didn't have a speaking role, condi rice did. if you went inside the library after the ceremony what you saw were a lot of pictures and exhibits, t

literally. >> cheney and dr. reiner wanted to show us just how dramatic his transformation has been. this is an image of cheney's ravaged and diseased heart just moments after it was removed. >> this is a rather large basin and here is the -- your heart. >> it's the one i lived with for 70 years. >> normal heart would basically be about the size of two fists clamped together like, maybe a little bit smaller. >> right. >> and you see this is about half a foot wide. >> old heart, new heart. >> old heart, new heart. and it's one of those situations where bigger's not necessarily better. >> that's because a bigger heart can't effectively pump blood through the body. the x-ray on the left shows cheney's enlarged heart, twice the normal size and pushing on his other organs. on the right, his new heart. and then there's this comparison. again, on the left, cheney's diseased heart, weakened, with narrowed arteries. and his new heart with healthy vessels and no blockages. >> dramatically displays, you know, how sick i was

his new book is called days of fire bush and cheney in the whitehouse. >> the mythology cheney was a public master is oversimplistic. but he was influential. he was able to have a weekly lunch alone with the president where he gets to lay out his case for things unrebutted by anybody else. he willed this sort of quiet power. you think of him being this robust force in the whitehouse but in meetings he would actually sit back quietly and not say anything. people around the table would look at them and he was say where is cheney coming from and a lot of times they wouldn't know. >> rose: we conclude with two of the greatest chefs in the world grant achatz and thomas keller. >> i don't think there's in the professor i know of any way that has such a strong bond. just with the generation we're part of but also the previous generation and the following generation. >> we're really trying to be original and be creative in our own way with our own voice. much in the same way that chef keller did and all the great chefs of the world. all of the great chefs. they found their own voice and they

where was cheney. >> cheney was for it from the beginning obviously and after 9/11. because iraq tells you about the changing role the vice president plays, all right. in the very beginning 2001, they have a bombing attack on baghdad in retaliation for a no fly zone. president bush isn't aware this is going on and when he discovers it he says i want to talk to dick. the one person he wants to talk to is cheney to understand what's going on why it's happening. comes 20 02 cheney says it's time to attack northern iraq. there's a chemical weapons facility. at that point bush says no. this belies the whole myth that cheney calls the shot. given what a pain he became later for american forces. of course he almost singularly, that's too strong probably but very responsible for a lot of sectarian. >> rose: that's right. made it worse and worse and worse. >> much worse. >> rose: and finally killed by the special forces. >> cheney would say today i would say see if you had done what i said we would have been better off. bush didn't want to go there yet he wanted a slower more

and dick cheney was in the center of it all. collapse of communism, the uprising in china's tienemen square and the first gulf war. >> the army, navy, air force and marines, prepare for one of the largest land assaults of modern times. >> looking back, do you think the stress affected your heart disease and your overall health? >> i simply don't buy the notion that it contributed to my heart disease. it was in fact that getting back to work, getting back to that job, whatever that job might be, was important enough that i, in fact, kept them separate i guess would be the way to think about it. >> but do i wonder as a doctor, is that really plausible? can you really keep such a significant medical history and such a significant job separate? >> i did. >> but when george w. bush asked cheney to be his running mate in 2000, there was enough concern that the bush campaign sought out the opinion of world-renowned texas heart surgeon denton cooley. after speaking with cheney's cardiologist, dr. jonathan reiner, dr. cooley told the bus

and dick cheney was in the center of it all.rising in china's tienemen square and the first gulf war. >> we prepare for one of the largest land assaults of modern times. >> looking back, do you think the stress affected your heart disease and your overall health? >> i simply don't buy the notion that it contributed to my heart disease. it was in fact that getting back to work, getting back to that job, whatever that job might be, was important enough that i in fact kept them separate i guess would be the way to think about it. >> but do i wonder as a doctor, is that really plausible? can you really keep such a significant medical history and such a significant job separate? >> i did. >> but when george w. bush asked cheney to be his running mate in 2000, there was enough concern that the bush campaign sought out the opinion of world-renowned texas heart surgeon denton cooley. after speaking with cheney's cardiologist, dr. jonathan reiner, dr. cooley told the bush campaign that cheney was in good health with normal cardiac functi

after speaking with cheney's cardiologist, the doctor told the bush campaign that cheney was in goodfunction. >> the normal cardiac function wasn't true. >> i'm not responsible for that. i don't know what took place between the doctors. >> this idea that you have this respected heart surgeon from texas who didn't see you, didn't examine you and then write something saying you have normal cardiac function, that just wasn't true mr. vice president. >> go ask denton cooly about that -- >> you saw it -- >> listen to me. i apted the task of being vice president and there is no question, i think, based upon the fact that i did it for eight years that they were right. >> how were they able to say that you were able to do the job? >> the way i look at it sanjay, i didn't seek the job. the president came to me and asked me to be the vice president. the party nominated me. the doctors that consummited on it reached a common conclusion and people elected me. now, what basis do you want to over ride that decision making process? do you want to have an offshoot here where we come check with sanja

outrageous even for dick cheney.he is taking hillary clinton completely out of context over what else, benghazi. >> i think the benghazi thing is one of the great -- it's not just embarrassment, it's a tragedy because we lost four people that night. but what i always recall is her testimony saying what difference does it make. and the fact of the matter is it makes a huge difference. she clearly wasn't hands on and now she doesn't want to be hands on. and she's doing everything she can to avoid responsibility for what clearly fell into her baliwick. >> i hope you caught that. he implies that hillary clinton was talking about the four americans being dead including chris stevens. when she said what difference does it make. in fact, in those words she was referring to republican attacks on the talking pints points used by susan rice afterwards. here's the full context of that comment by the secretary. >> we were misled that there were supposedly protests and something sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that.

i think what cheney saw, the reason cheney -- the reason cheney was brought in and asked to find a viceself, cheney saw the opportunity and bush's naivete that bush did not have the insider washington expertise and understanding of policy and cheney saw an opportunity. when cheney became vice president, you will remember the first thing he did was he arranged a secret meeting with members of the energy industry to try to begin to immediately affect the things that mattered to him most. i think what happened over the course of time is that bush, and bush is good about letting people go and do what they need to do to run the government, what he did in texas. i think it is what he planned to do in washington, but over the course of time, what happened was he saw cheney doing things and going to extremes that he probably was uncomfortable with and he called him off. he said, stop it. he had done that, i mean, he is known for being in meetings and telling people, like, karl rove, and dick cheney as well, saying, wait a minute, i'm the guy in charge here. i'm the guy whose name is out front h

to this day, questions remain about the role cheney played, they believe libby was protecting cheney.nd it led to bush's decision not to pardon libby. you are leaving a good man wounded on the field of battle. peter, it seems to me, and i was totally focused on this during those months, to the point where i think it was really bugging scooter libby that i was so focused on him and the vp. i don't believe he was a criminal in the sense of someone robbing gas stations or the embezzler. i believe he was doing what the boss wanted done. maybe the boss didn't say go do it, but cheney wanted joe wilson, wanted to diminish the credibility of joe wilson. outing his wife as an agent may have been part of that. my question to you is, how did you find out that cheney was perceived by bush as benefitting from that pardon himself? that he would somehow benefit by pardoning scooter libby? >> well, the discussion they had, really the fight that they had, president bush and vice president cheney in the last days of their administration consumed by this discussion about whether to pardon scooter libby

condoleezza rice replaced cheney as the top adviser. bush and cheney disagreed on who to trust.ir putin's soul. they rolled their eyes and he joked when he looked into putin's soul, he only saw the letters k, g, and b. with the nomination falling apart cheney responded i tried to tell him. president bush and vice president cheney disagreed on dozens of issues from north korea to gun rights to detaining terror suspects. the scooter libby affair was the last straw. the split is memorialized at the presidential library. one of the most famous vice presidents is virtually absent from every key exhibit at the library. the decisions they made together changed the course of the country. what do the disagreements reveal about the decisions and the legacy? peter baker authored the new book, days of fire. bush and cheney in the white house. peter? good morning to you. here we are. scooter libby indictment anniversary. that was the last straw. what was the first one? where did this crack start? that seems to be what i think everybody has been trying to figure out. >> one of the surprising

i think cheney brilliantly manipulated bush.rilliantly manipulated was bush's need to feel he was the executive in control. >> but how did he do that really practically speaking? because you wrote a book on this, how did he make bush feel -- was it that bush wasn't that smart in terms of being manipulated or really, truly skillful? >> i think bush figured out in the end that cheney was manipulating him. but he flattered him and he made bush think that he -- he made bush think, much of the way people around nixon played to his insecurities and feelings about liberals and people ganging up on him, he played to his sense that he was sort of a lone hero standing up for what was right against people who didn't understand how dangerous the world was. and he got what he wanted for five, six years. and then bush got wise to him and had to recalibrate and cheney wasn't on board for that. >> what's interesting is as the former president sort of comes out of the shadows if you can call dog paintings coming out of the shadow, i do think, yo

why did cheney want to go to war in iraq?a lot of people speculate he has unfinished business from the gulf war when he was a defense secretary to push his father. i found this oral history he gave months before running for vice president. nobody had seen him before from the miller scepter where he said then in 2000, we made the right decision not to go to baghdad. it would have been a disaster. if something happened between 2000 and the beginning -- or if end of 2001 when they began thinking about iraq. obviously 9/11 played a huge role. you can't discount the atmosphere of spear, responsibility that was infecting the white house at that time. >> i'm not a brain surgeon. but i notice he's a ferocious -- maybe i am, too. but he's a ferocious partisan at a times. i have seen him go after opponents. he wants to beat them. he wants to crush him. and there's something about hussein that he said this guy needs to be killed. we killed tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of iraqis to do this. for what? i look at what's ha

outrageous even for dick cheney.e is taking hillary clinton out of context over what else, benghazi. >> i think the benghazi thing is one of the great -- it's not an embarrassment, it's a tragedy. we lost four people that night and i recall her testimony saying what difference does it make? the fact is it makes a huge difference. it wasn't hands on and now she doesn't want to be hands on and doing everything she can to, void responsibility for what fell into that. >> he implies that hillary clinton was talking about the four americans being dead when she said what difference does it make. in fact she was referring to republican attacks on the talking points by susan rice afterwards. here's the full context. >> we were misled that there was pro test and something sprang out of that. that was easily ascertained that that was not the case. the american people could have known that within days and they didn't. >> with all due respect we had four dead americans. was it because of a protest or guys who decided to kill amer

according to cheney, the president failed to do something.et's listen. >> one, i was glad they got him. two, they needed to recognize as some have although he never really has all the work that was done by our intel professionals over ten years to make that possible. >> so the president never recognized all the good work done by our agencieagencies. it's not true. he's repeatedly given them credit. just days after the killing of bin laden, he even went to the cia headquarters to talk in person. here's this president's message that cheney must have missed. >> they have returned just to say thank you. on behalf of all americans and people around the world, because you carried on, you stayed focused on your mission, you honored the memory of your fallen colleagues. i wanted every single one of you to know whether you work at the cia or across the community, at every step of our effort to take out bin laden, the work you did and the quality of the intelligence you provided made the critical difference. >> clarence? >> let's be clear. dick cheney

he had gracious words for vice president cheney, but cheney was not part of the program. given a speaking pran. you saw how president bush is presenting his presidency. pictures of laurie bush and the kids, the dogs, but not a lot of cheney. >> did he cooperate with the book? >> president bush chose not to participate, but cheney gave interviews and 265 people also gave interviews. >> did he had regrets about the intelligence blunders that led to the war? >> he's sorry that it happened, but he believes osama bin laden was a threat and he had every reason to believe the intelligence, even though it was wrong at the time. >> days of fire" an excellent read. right after the break, jake tapper is here. we'll discuss his one on one rr interview with the former vice president, dick cheney. stand by. e long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical e

brush an cheney in the white house. thank you very much. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> ifill: we close with a look back at the life of singer- songwriter lou reed, who died yesterday of liver disease. reed's music explored dark, often unsettling themes, including social alienation, addiction, and sexuality. he's credited with influencing generations of other musicians, including david bowie, patti smith, and nirvana. this is lou reed in 1983, performing what turned out to be his only commercial success, "walk on the wild side." >> . ♪ ♪ ♪ went down to the-- ♪ ♪ take a walk on the wild side ♪ ♪ hey girl ♪ take a walk on the wild side ♪ ♪ little joey never once gave it away ♪ ♪ they have to pay and pay ♪ a hustle here and a hustle there ♪ ♪ the place where ♪ they take a walk on the wild side ♪ ♪ baby ♪ you take a walk on the wild side ♪ ♪ jackie ♪ thought she for a day ♪ then you know that she had ♪ ♪ a little valium would have helped that pass ♪ snot baby, take a walk on the wild side ♪ ♪ take a walk on the wild side ♪

so let's all cheer for liz cheney.t sounds great. >> it's incredibly disheartening and this is why the tea party has control of the agenda because it all comes down to winning elections. you see moderate republicans aren't willing to step up when deep down i'm sure dick cheney has issues with the tea party, they are more concerned about their own election or daughter's election. >> the fringe controls the debate. >> this true but it's incredibly dangerous place for any organization to be. something i often talk about is the future of the republican party, something i care a lot about. i talk to folks all the time, young people, about the party. they will always say, i don't fit in today. it's the extreme right that really has control of the narrative. some that dick cheney said caught my attention. he said we have an obligation within the party to pass leadership to the next generation. what he seems to be missing when he says the tea party is actually a good thing for the party, is that the upcoming generation is very

not tonight, cheney replies. you can have it in the morning. when he is retested, he gets an all clear. but after five heart attacks, that was not the case. >> lots of times all i wanted to do when i got out of bed in the morning is to get to my chair where i can put my feet up and take a nap. >> reporter: in his new book "heart: an american medical odyssey," out next week but obtained by "nightly news," cheney says he met another crisis. every time my heart beat, blood shot in a stream from my nose. when i tried is to stop the pressure, blood ran in the back of my throat. his heart was giving out. he said his goodbyes to his family and writes, if this is dying, i remember thinking, it's not all that bad. he was fitted with an emergency not all that bad. he was fitted with an emergency heart pump to keep him alive pending a possible transplant. >> i wear it on a vest and there is a control knob here and two batteries, one on each side. >> reporter: finally in march 2012, a heart transplant. >> i wake up every morning with a big smile on my face

but liz cheney is not a tea partier.t wings of the conservative movement and you're seeing them collide and it's going to be fascinating to watch it play out. >> let's hope nobody goes shooting. thank you both. >>> coming up, republicans would love everyday to be a glitch-filled groundhog day. fortunately, the president has another agenda. >> some people have poked fun at me this week for sounding like an insurance sales mapp. and that's okay. i would still be out there championing this law, even if the website were perfect. >> i sell insurance. >> what a shock. >> do you have life insurance? because if you do, you can always use a little more. am i right or am i right or am i right? right, right, right. ♪ here we go yo ♪ so what's the scenario americans take care of business. they always have. they always will. that's why you take charge of your future. your retirement. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. listening, planning, working one on one. to help you retire your way... with

he jokes, i always had this idea of a bush-cheney far long time. >> george w.isionmaking. do you believe that? >> well, i think it's important to try to get into decisionmaking, understand why he made the decisions he did, not to disagrier or agree but evaluate how they were made. i think history is going to re-examine and re-look at this period of time for decades. we'll be debating these things far long time. >> you say he left office as the most disliked president in seven decades. >> he did. >> and cheney didn't fare much better snop a former aide to president bush said what's it like to leave office in an unpop yoor r uhlar president? he kind of bristled and said i was almost the most popular president, which he was for a time after 9/11. >> why wouldn't president bush talk to you? >> he didn't believe a book written by "the new york times" reporter could be fair. he felt the paper had not been balanced in his time in office. but i think in the end he allowed a lot of people around him to talk. >> and an interesting nugget about harriet miers. people may n

cheney, thanks so much for joining us. the book, very fascinating. i want to get to it in a second. first, i have to ask you about some big items in the news, especially the national security agency spying scandal, for want of a better word. all this news that the u.s. conducted surveillance on our own allies. some of the documents posted by or leaked by edward snowden to the media indicate that these programs started in 2002. why spy on an ally? >> jake, if there were such a program, it would be classified and i couldn't talk about it. it would be totally inappropriate, and i haven't been in the loop now obviously for more than four years. so it's just one of those subjects i couldn't discuss. >> without getting specific, on a theoretical basis, what is the interest of the united states in conducting surveillance on a country who is a clear ally of the united states? >> i've got to go with the answer i have given you. let me say this. we do have a fantastic intelligence capability worldwide against all kinds of potential

the atlantic said bush cheney marriage ended in a fight over another man.ent cheney's chief of staff scooter libby, convicted in leak case, obstruction of justice, bogus prosecution, goes to the president in the last days of the administration. you have to pardon him. you have to do this. president bush assigns lawyers to go back and look at it, decides i'm not going to. this final climatic moment, you're leaving a good man wounded on the field of battle. harshest thing in years, quite an ending. >> encyclopedia of that experience, one that struck me was the pr nightmare when dick cheney shot his good friend and hunting partner harry whittington in the face. it was laura bush ultimately who said we've got to get on top of this. >> she didn't interfere a lot. she was not a player in politic the way hillary clinton had been. she felt immediately this was a bad thing for the white house. she had her staff contact the president's staff and vice president's staff, why aren't we getting this out there. lets get this out to the public. tells you. >> took days. >>

and cheney would have none of it.her thing that i thought was fascinating was sanjay challenged the very first as we all remember, when george bush first picked dick cheney to be his vice president, vice presidential candidate, and a letter was released from a doctor, noted heart surgeon in texas. sanjay revealed, of course, that that doctor had never examined cheney, that he basically talked to cheney's best buddy, who is the heart surgeon who he wrote this book with, and gave him a clean bill of health. last night, cheney said well, you know, if you have a problem with that, you're going to have to talk to him, i have no idea how he came to that conclusion. >> i want to bring in new poll numbers about the shutdown. we will change the subject if you will let me. brand new cnn/orc poll released this hour shows that 71% of voters think that most members of congress should get the boot, but here's the number that could actually change something. only 46% of respondents think their own lawmakers deserve re-election, down

why former vice president dick cheney feared terrorists could kill him by turning off his pacemaker. and now, his doctors reveal their real fear on one of america's darkest days. >>> and, sweet ride. the nfl star, the multimillion dollar paycheck and his $2 car. a '91 sedan, 124,000 miles. come along for the ride tonight. >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a sunday night. and we do begin this evening with that massive break in the case after that massive manhunt for two convicted killers who escaped from a florida prison. it came to an end outside this motel, just 100 miles from the prison where they were serving life behind bars, and just hours before they were hoping to hitch a ride out of the state. instead, tonight, they're now locked up, appearing in court, one at a time. soon to be sent back to where they started. authorities saying the elaborate plan that included forged documents to get them out means they most certainly had help. more arrests could be coming, and abc's steve osunsami is in panama city tonight. >> reporter: police had quietly tracked

cheney needed a stint to prop open up the artery.heney dodge a bullet. but it was nine months later that cheney faced what he considers one of the biggest challenges of his life. with president obama in florida, cheney was in a bunker under the white house, helping make decisions, even given authority by the president to shoot down passenger airliners. >> i mean, as far as stress goes, and again, as a doctor, with your heart history, how worried were you about just your health? >> didn't occur to me. >> not at all? >> no. >> i didn't think about my health. i was thinking about the problems we were dealing with. >> reporter: but what cheney didn't know was that his cardiologist, jonathan reiner, had received the results of a blood test that morning showing his potassium levels were dangerously high, a condition called hyperkalemium. >> how big are we talking about? >> potassium of 6.9 can kill you. >> this is a huge problem. >> yeah. i laid awake that night watching the replays of the towers come down and thinking, great, the vice pre

cheney reveals to dr. specially modified. >> reporter: in 2007 when cheney needed his implanted defibrillator replaced, the doctor ordered the manufacturer to disable his wireless feature fearing the terrorists could signal to have the device disabled. >> it seemed to me to be a bad idea for the vice president of the united states to have a device that maybe somebody on a rope line or in the next hotel room or downstairs might be able to get into, hack into, and i worried that someone could kill you. >> reporter: years later this scene from the showtime drama "homeland" showed just how it could be done to the fictional vice president. >> i'm killing you. >> reporter: what did you think when you watched that? >> well, i was aware of the danger, if you will, that existed, but i found it credible because i knew from the experience we'd had and the necessity for adjusting my own device that it was an accurate portrayal of what was possible. >> cheney said his health struggles never affected his job performance