but cheney is not the only republican sounding the alarm. here is cassidy hutchinson the former top aide to white house top of staff mark meadowses of the trump white house. and of course the star witness of the january 6 committee's public hearings. >> jim jordan was privy to nearly everything if not everything about and pertaining to january 6. jim jordan can't be trusted with the constitution. >> jim jordan scored former president trump's endorsement early this morning which could as no surprise to anyone if you take a closer look at the great lengths that jordan went to to try to keep trump in power after he lost the election. here is jordan in harrisburg, pennsylvania attending a "stop the steal" rally two days after election day in the weeks and months after that, jordan went on various right wing media outlets where he attempted to sow distrust in the 2020 election and made baseless claims of election fraud. >> exactly what the democrats wanted. they knew president trump was going to win on election night but they wanted to keep looki

host: aside from liz cheney you think it takes an outside person to achieve that, whether it be liz cheney or someone else, someone outside congress? caller: i don't know, but jim jordan is definitely not the man for the job. he is an extreme republican. he will not get anything done. all he will do is stall everything. we need somebody who will bring us back together instead of tearing us apart. nothing will get done as long as we have extremists. host: let's hear from anna in pennsylvania, democrats line. caller: i am calling about israel. i kept hearing people say the palestinians need their homeland back. if you are american comic you want to give back all of our land to the indians? this is what it amounts to. i support israel in what they are doing. i think people should not demonstrate and not be anti-semitic and that is how i feel about it all. host: one more call from vincent in maryland, independent line. caller: good morning. first off, for the issue with the congress, i agree with the previous caller. we need an outside source. we have gotten too extreme on both sides. i have b

and i'm happy to offer my services. >> new tonight, cnn is learning that liz cheney -- leads cheney played role in kevin mccarthy's -- plus, jets quarterback aaron rodgers is taking shots at another nfl player for getting shot, and there's a lot of irony involved. we will explain, next. >> aaron rodgers he's taking some potshots at a fellow player while he is out with an injury. the nfl star went after travis kelce, who, we should note, after is dating taylor swift -- >> -- spread well and pat didn't have a crazy game. and mr. pfizer, we kind of shut him down and -- crazy impact game over 2 yards and stuff. >> now, rodgers famously refused to get the covid vaccine, and he's accused of misleading the league about his vaccination status. but the irony here is that rodgers works for one of the errors heirs of a big farm -- of the johnson & johnson empire. so, essentially, he is taking a paycheck from the very man whose wealth comes from the worlds pharmaceutical powers that he is denouncing. laura, some people don't have a sense of irony. >> -- >> luckily, why we are here. >> we will do the i

but anyway, that's it for part coming loose cheney part two coming up, loose cheney has gold.y has havejold. brighton fans part two coming up, loose cheney has havejo ball. �*ighton fans part two coming up, loose cheney has havejo ball. cambridge don't have a ball. cambridge library has a recall. we'll see industry, you're listening to gb news radio . news radio. >> hello. welcome back to headliners. we're into the final stretch now. well, no , the back stretch now. well, no, the back nine, i should say . stretch now. well, no, the back nine, i should say. nick stretch now. well, no, the back nine, i should say . nick the nine, i should say. nick the guardian to kick us off some good old fashioned from liz cheney. it's been too long. indeed. >> trump is single most dangerous threat to the us warns republican. i might stick some inverted commas in liz cheney so the guardian's calling her a yes . well, the guardian says moderate. i say rhino. you know, when the guardian's back in the repubuc when the guardian's back in the republic and they they're a moderate, apparently ridicul

back with me now is former res republican congresswoman liz cheney.like to watch this fiasco play out over the last few weeks? >> it's hard to describe. i wish that it were surprising. you know, what we've seen is a result of really the leadership decisions that kevin mccarthy made all of the way back after the 2020 election and certainly after january 6th and you know, looking the other way in the face of the kind of assault on our democracy that we've seen from donald trump and his allies in the house including jim jordan, elevating those members, frankly, some of whom are white supremacists and some of whom are anti-semitic, a number of whom were involved directly in the attempt to seize power and overturn the election. so it's not a surprise when you see that those people have been empowered -- >> mccarthy women nowered them, right? >> exactly. exactly, in order to obtain the votes he needed to become speaker and i also have been watching the extent to which political violence and the threats of violence have now reared their head once again. thos

>> reporter: yeah, so in the days leading up to the vote to oust mccarthy, liz cheney saw congressman dan goldman, democrat from new york, on tv talking about what democrats were weighing at the time. and sources tell me that cheney called goldman to discuss the threat that mccarthy presented to the country after everything that she felt like she had learned from her work on the january 6 committee. she talked about mccarthy's relationship with former president trump and all the work that she had done to uncover trump's involvement with january 6. and then goldman shared that conversation with the entire democratic caucus when they met behind closed goor doors tuesda that is really democrats came together and united behind the idea that they were not going to help mccarthy up until that point, there had been some conversations about maybe there is some concessions that we can get, maybe there is a power sharing agreement we can do. that meeting was the decision absolutely not, we are staying unified. and that conversation between contain any and congressman goldman ways just one of th

a provocative question tonight, what -- someone like liz cheney for the house? senior political analyst john avlon is here for tonight's op-ed. >> abraham lincoln said, a house divided itself cannot stand house republicans are now showing their wisdom about work. after empowering a radical, right they just can't help together a government coalition. the problem predates kevin mccarthy since 2010 every gop speaker has been pushed out for -- as they couldn't -- anarchist and steve scalise dropped out after less than a day in the. race the current candidate jim jordan is even less suited to the caucus even congress is more extreme with a legislative record and part of trump's totem to overturn the election but there is a solution to the firing squad. republicans should free themselves from the far-right and put forward a candidate who put just enough -- decent means to grow as fine, but colleagues are always saying i'm trying to bring aaron sorkin strips a late in the -- far closer to game of thrones. fair enough. cynicism passes for -- in washington for a reason.

at the end of next year, i've been speaking to the ceo of natural gas, or lexi cheney shop. i asked him if key, if was likely to allow russian gas to continue passing through your crane. after that point. the only reason you cream is still trends that the rushing gas is to support european union countries especially lend, look countries. we do understand the position of the european union to fully reject and refuse from the consumption of crossing gas until 2027. at this very moment, it has not yet happened. well, we support european countries during this winter. your right of the contract will be over by the end of next year. no renew. at this very moment, we are not in a position to renew it. although we might consider that the rapidity union would raise the issue in the coming month or so. when did you mentioned supporting landlord countries actually is one of the countries is still getting guessed from russia via the ukrainian pathway. so what most of the message would you want to send to the telling? i think regardless of the countries that are getting rushing guess, uh

there were two republicans on it, including liz cheney. but putting the committee aside, it sounds like you would be willing to potentially vote for jim jordan as the next house speaker. >> look, i think what's most important and what i'm prioritizing is stabilizing the structure of the position of speaker of the house. kaitlan, after that, yes, we need to have a robust discussion about who is best, is it steve scalise, jim jordan? is there a third candidate out there? but i'm focused on the house of representatives undoing this disaster that matt gaetz and the rest of the chaos caucus have done to the house and making sure we're getting back on track. >> so, it sounds like you don't think it's a two-man race at point. you are a close ally of kevin mccarthy. you were there during his 15 rounds to become speaker in january. are you disappointed that the former president didn't try to come to his defense more as he was in the throes of being oust frd ed from his job? >> i'm disappointed that matt gaetz went out and fabricated this narrative

liz cheney's party is about to vote him back into power. trump was in new hampshire today, filing paperwork to be on the ballot in a republican primary field that has so far proven unwilling or unable to stop the trump threat. there is more to play out on the campaign trail and in the courtroom. but in the words of liz cheney, everyone has been warned. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and a professor at the university of alabama school of law. bradley moss, a national security attorney who represents people who work in the intelligence community. and democratic congressman eric swalwell of california. he was an impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump, and he is a plaintiff in a civil lawsuit, a civil suit against donald trump for his role in inciting the january 6th attack on the capitol, thank you all very much for coming to the last word. joyce, trump almost immediately brought back the deranged jack smith attacks with his d.c. gag order on him. what is going on here, and ho

earlier this week january six committee vice chairwoman liz cheney lay this out for us again in a speech >> jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th van any other member of the house of representatives. jim jordan wise involved, was part of the conspiracy in which donald trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election. and if the republicans decide that jim jordan should be the speaker of the house, there will, and i, by the way, i don't think that's going to happen, i think he will lose, but if they were to decide that, there were no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. >> remember, liz cheney in the january six committee subpoena jim jordan. they wanted to know more about what he did know, and what he did in the run up to january six. he flat out nored. it they never got the truth from and they believe to be a key witness investigation as vice chair cheney said, at the time. >> i think that congressman jordan may well be a material witness. he is somebody who wa

that man, liz cheney blames in large part for what happened. she said he knew what was coming, didn't warn his colleagues or even his own staff, presumably, and yet he had run with everyone else. what do you make of the fact that this man, who is an insurrectionist or at least insurrection curious, is the person 200 republicans think should be speaker. he still won't say the election was legitimate. >> no, i think watching that, joy, sometimes i get pretty blunt. but it almost seems like he's a fish that doesn't want to piss off his great white shark which is trump. the fact is i saw the evidence. liz is correct. i was the first one to see the text message. if you think about it, joy, i was the first one to see it beside jim and besides mark meadows. when i saw that text message, i realized pretty quickly where it came from. a lot of people need to realize the fact jim jordan was getting his message from qanon believers and some of the craziest individuals. do we want somebody leading a conference that believes in the craziest things that weapo

former republican congresswoman liz cheney, daughter of dick cheney, recently gave the stark warningxt speaker. >> jim jordan new more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th than any other member of the house of representatives. the person who knew, there probably more than just jim, but there are a handful of people of which he was the leader who knew what donald trump had planned. now, somebody needs to ask jim jordan, why didn't you report to the capitol police what you knew donald trump had planned? you are in those meetings at the white house. and if the republicans decide that jim jordan should be the speaker of the house, there will no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst david jolly, former republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with that party. david, my friend, i want to read to you what michael phenone, former metro police officer who responded to the capitol that day, wasn't even supposed to be working at the capitol, and

now, it's not without people, you and liz cheney and the committee and also my attorneys that gave me that second chance. i just have a couple more questions for you, then i'm going to ask a few more from the audience because believe what? i think we might be running out of time. what was your experience like as a witness on that day? sometimes people describe to me being a witness, like watching themselves from the outside, like they feel a little bit dissociated by by it. they feel like it's really happening in someone else. but what was what was your experience of the day where i should say you acquitted yourself remarkably well and everybody across the board was totally convinced of your candor and your honesty and you i think you changed millions of people's minds, getting some. thank you. as well. for starters, when i switched legal counsel, i was very clear clear, but i didn't want to just say i'm not at all. i was like, i will go back. i want to be completely forthcoming. the committee was very generous. they gave us my transcripts. we went through line by line. we corrected,

i mean, liz cheney is a friend of ken buck? ken buck is supporting this gaetz.peaking of liz cheney she reportedly called dan goldman after one of his tv hits to tell him that he and the democrats should take mccarthy out. joining me now victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoar institution. charlie hurt opinion editor at the "washington times" fox news contributor. chearlg, to you, i think to people watching at home they don't understand the ins and outs of this but they are hard pressed to understand how this gets republicans republicans to the type of majority they need next year to effectuate change. >> i think it was completely incoherent. republicans only control by a very thin margin one half of 1/3 of government. that one half of one third has been pretty successful in marshaling what resources they have to slow down this progressive revolution. then right in the middle of this when we are looking at impeachment. all these serious issues, just to get rid of the speaker without any plan condition continue again genesee to replace him feeds into the n

>> i think liz cheney had it exactly right.about a man like mr. trump becoming the president again. and just taking your example of what's happened in israel, of course one of the first things that mr. trump said is if i were still president this would have never happened. well, not so fast on that. but what i do think would be hard to imagine is that he would have reacted the same way that our government has reacted in terms of i think trying to really slow down some of the -- you know, the ground assault and some of the things that israel was talking about doing to retaliate. and granted, they have -- i shouldn't say retaliate because this is a foreign terrorist organization that committed that attack. they have every right under international law to take action against that foreign terrorist organization. but our administration rightly recognized that they have to do so in accordance with the laws of war and to make sure that the palestinian people that have no alignment -- those who have no alignment with hamas are not, you

cheney. maybe they should have another church committee that. and so the idea of a new church committee became, something that people started talking about to investigate, the bush and cheney abuses of intelligence. and so that led me to begin to think about eventually a book about what the truth about the church committee. and then as i was writing about it and about publish the book, the the new republican party in the house started talking the need for and for a new church committee. and so it's something i realized that has become part of the american political lexicon and the church committee is now a synonym for, a truth and reconciliation committee. and every time there is an a big scandal or a call for investigations everyone in washington now says we need a new church committee. and so i thought we needed a new history of what really happened with the church committee. that's how some. did you find any surprises? you were digging into this. oh, yeah, lots of surprises. i mean, it was

. >> that's former congresswoman liz cheney calling out fellow republican jim jordan who's now a top candidate to replace kevin mccarthy as house speaker. we'll have the latest on that race in just a moment. meanwhile, donald trump could also be on capitol hill next week to endorse jordan's bid for speaker. this would be trump's first visit to the capitol since the insurrection he inspired. and this comes as there's an alarming new report from "the new york times" on trump's handling of nuclear secrets. >>> good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this friday, october 6th. we made it to friday just barely. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin this morning with the race for the speaker of the house. currently only two announced candidates are in the running. house judiciary committee -- house judiciary chair jim jordan and majority leader steve scalise. jordan is already shoring up support, securing the endorsement of former president donald trump overnight. trump made the announcement where else but on truth social calling jordan a, quote,

liz cheney's book open honor, memoir and warning, will be released december 5th. publisher describes her book as a first-hand account of january 6, 2021, and its aftermath by the house republican leader who dared to stand up to it. she was defeated in a republican primary for the wyoming seed in 2022. adam consider is an air force veteran who held a suburban chicago seat in the house for six terms until he decided not to run again in 2022. his new book is titled renegades, defending democracy and liberty in our divided country. mister consider's book will be released october 17th. it's being published by the penguin imprint, the open field, run by former california first lady and journalist maria shriver. speaking of former president donald trump, the house january 6th subcommittee, cassidy hutchinson, former special assistant to the president will soon release memoir "enough". she became a key witness during the house january 6th hearings. her book is expected to be a tell all about her time in the white house and her decision to testify on capitol hill. that's c

host: aside from liz cheney you think it takes an outside person to achieve that, whether it be liz cheneyr someone else, someone outside congress? caller: i don't know, but jim jordan is definitely not the man for the job. he is an extreme republican. he will not get anything done. all he will do is stall everything. we need somebody who will bring us back together instead of tearing us apart. nothing will get done as long as we have extremists. host: let's hear from anna in pennsylvania, democrats line. caller: i am calling about israel. i kept hearing people say the palestinians need their homeland back. if you are american comic you want to give back all of our land to the indians? this is what it amounts to. i support israel in what they are doing. i think people should not demonstrate and not be anti-semitic and that is how i feel about it all. host: one more call from vincent in maryland, independent line. caller: good morning. first off, for the issue with the congress, i agree with the previous caller. we need an outside source. we have gotten too extreme on both sides. i have bee

. >> somebody who has engaged with democrats, liz cheney is no longer in the house, so i want to askut this reporting from abc news that you spoke with liz cheney who reportedly agreed with you that mccarthy threatened democracy. what can you tell us about that? and do any of your other republican colleagues in the house currently share that opinion? >> well, liz cheney who, you know, i've built a nice relationship with because we both care very much about our democracy reached out to me and just relayed a very simple message, which is this is just not about what concessions the democrats might be able to get. kevin mccarthy has been complicit in donald trump's attack and subversion on our democracy. he has kissed the ring of donald trump. he pulled out the rug from a 9/11 commission because donald trump said that. he started an impeachment inquiry because donald trump wanted him to. he is wholly-owned by donald trump, and that is a threat to democracy. and liz cheney wanted to make sure that i and all of my colleagues in the democratic party considered that in addition to what has h

your idea of adam kinzinger and liz cheney, it's not likely, under that scenario, that hypothetical, you say to your democratic party get behind those nominations. caller: absolutely. they were able to be impartial during the january 6 hearing. that's what we need. they put people before the party. that's what we need in congress right now. i do not want to see a veteran -- a senior citizen, or children in a shut down. the children are not going to get their free breakfast and lunch in skaofplt then snap benefits. they are not going to -- children won't have a stable meal. that irritates me. let's find somebody who is impartial. that is our best solution. host: all right. john bresnahan from punch bowl news, troy nlsrepublican, said he opposes the mchry resolution and still wants the former president as speaker for 100 days. mary in wyoming, michigan, republican. hear from you, mary. >> we have 222 republicans in the house in all. an there is the extreme eight, the gaetz, greenes, jordan types holding the others hostage. holding american people hostage. my republican party needs to s

cheney's book oath and honor and memoir and a warning will be released on december 5. publisher describes her book as a first-hand account of generally six, 2021 and its aftermath by the house republican leader who dared to stand up. was defeated out of republican n primary for her wyoming seat in 2022. now adam kinsinger as an air force veteran who held a suburban chicago seat in the house for six terms until he decided not to run again in 2022. his new book is called renegade. defending democracy and liberty are divided country. mr. container book will be released october 17 being published by the penguin imprint the open field which is run by former california first lady and journalist mariahr shriver. and speaking of former president donald trump and the house generally six selects committee, cassidy hutchinson former special assistant to the president will soon release memoir and aec half. ms. hutchinson became a key witness during the house in january sixth hearing her book is expected to be a tell all about that's our time in the white house and her decision to

liz cheney said if this guy becomes speaker you can never say the republican party is a good stewardthe constitution. he went in on him, he knew what trump is going to do and he didn't do anything about it and yet, that's not even happening people are like yeah, he could be the speaker, what is going on? >> yeah, let's not forget it was jim jordan who have the 10 minute phone call with trump the morning of the insurrection and all of a sudden he got amnesia. jim jordan has been a chaos agent from the very beginning since he got into congress. john boehner call them a legislative terrorist. he has zero credibility as a serious legislator or someone who could actually lead a caucus. you have to be a grown up to be at the house, you have to understand how things work, you have to be able to reach across the aisle and actually get legislation passed. kevin mccarthy couldn't do it because he was untrustworthy and he didn't have a spine, so he lost the trust and confidence of not only his democratic colleague. jim jordan? is this who we are really considering now in the republican party? s

we understand that about liz cheney. that doesn't mean we always follow her advice. >> all right. i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> next, a major development on the legal front. trump trying to get the doj's january 6th case dismissed. he says he has immunity because he was president and was acquitted by the senate after his impeachment. >>> and russia tonight launching a brutal strike on ukraine. more than 50 people killed and putin tonight rewriting history, trying to say he didn't start the war. and commander biden out of the white house but as our tom foreman will report tonight, commander is far from the only presidential pet to end up in the dog house. >>> abc first reporting that trump shared sensitive information about submarines with a mar-a-lago club member. "the new york times" is reporting that jack smith may be calling the club member, anthony pratt, an australian billionaire who runs a u.s. major company, to testify in the classified documents case. this m cos as team trump is now looking to get jack smith's over case thrown out, claiming

obviously, when liz cheney was on capitol hill, you worked with her on several issues.s what she said recently, about one of the contenders for the next house speaker. >> jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th, than any other member of the house of representatives. now, somebody needs to ask jim jordan, why didn't you report to the capitol police, what you knew donald trump had planned? if they were to decide that, there were no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans, could be counted on to defend the constitution. >> congressman, what do you make of what liz cheney was saying there about jim jordan, possibly becoming house speaker? >> look, i don't know anything about what liz is talking about. i know that obviously, there is a bit of animosity there, with her and some house republicans. but look, i want to tell you something that i think is really important. jim jordan came to congress before i started, and had been there a number of years. and, the number of members of congress who said to jim jordan

. >> ousted wyoming congressman in liz cheney blames the situation on kevin mccarthy's alliance with former president trump. do you agree with that? >> i think there's a case to be made that all of this is a reckoning with the schism that trump created inside the party on january 6th, most notably. but i think over his governing style overall, mccarthy famously was the first major politician to seem to resusci wait trump's image. just a few weeks after january 6th, right after trump became the former president, making that trip to mar a lago, it was clear where his where his head was and where his where his sensibilities were. maybe that was the deal that mccarthy had to cut to get the speakership. you could argue that, given how hard it was, but i think former congresswoman cheney has a point that mccarthy put the seeds of his own destruction inside of that that deal. and keep in mind , it was matt gaetz who arguably is even more loyal to donald trump, who pulled the pulled that lever to force the vote that that put mccarthy out of office. >> it's hard to imagine what kind of a deal

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