chen. wilbur caller: thank you for taking my call. , ianted to ask dr. chen this rush for a vaccine is more like a money grab. i think there is an insanity involved in trying to make a vaccine for a disease that you cannot even define or identify with a test. thecan explain a lot of discrepancies with vitamin d. you can get the same group of people. childrene, blacks, and would not have a problem with lack of vitamin d, because they take milk. i wonder why we are looking at a vaccine as opposed to other protocols? guest: i don't know what the evidence is for the vitamin d. argumenthere is a huge causings virus is overwhelmingss, medical systems. huge losses because of the direct effects of this virus. there are ill people all throughout the globe. i don't know what the evidence is for this vitamin d that you are talking about. there is no evidence i have seen about vitamin d having any significant effect on morbidity and mortality. i think there is a huge argument for developing therapeutic

>>eporter: lanhee chen wat about the idea that the timing is bad that w.h.o. does things that it needs tbe alowed to do in this pandemic and, also, the criticism of president trump, should president trump be blaming the that he's made? of the mitakes >> undoubtedly the w.h.o. does important work and the w.h. is not solely responsible for he pandemic outbreak, but we have to take cold look at the numbers and realize that of the u.s. contribution in 2018, 2019 to the w.h.o., only 1.6% of our contribution went to pandemic preparedness and response. the notion that somehow the organization is going be crippled because the u.s. takes a pause in looking at how it wants to fund and potentially form the organization, in my mind, is red herring. we need to continue to ensure the organization dos what it's able to do best but that doesn't as sec pompeo noted in the. opening pi cece,r thei u itical needs are funded, i t bnsheede is going to be curbed or shut down haze because he u.s. takes a hold on funding is untrue given the numbers and actual contribution we make to t

i gave natasha chen a new job there, saying she was a meteorologist. i thought she was going to talk to us about the weather coming through. tom sater joins us to talk about the line of storms moving across the south. what do you know? >> been a terrible day. no one wants to see a tornado outbreak on easter sunday or any day for that matter, especially with everything we have been going through, the lockdown situation and everyone staying at home. a lot of families are frightened. 95 million americans under the threat of tornadoes from areas of texas, louisiana, mississippi, arkansas, and sliding all the way across georgia during the darkness of the night. let me show you the radar picture again. we have two waves going on here. see the pink, that's the latest in a tornado warning. off to the left of the screen, that's the secondary batch. notice the orange boxes, those are severe thunderstorm warnings. the secondary batch moving through central arkansas not too much tornadic activity, but straight line wind damage. but earlier today, after a tornado m

janice chen is the chief officer for science offices in san francisco. along with usc, they have come up with a new diagnostic test. >> the test we have come up with leveraging in powerful technology. >> the test is among the first to use a gene targeting technology known as crisper. it seeks out two specific genetic targets always found on this virus. >> we can simply type in the letters of where we want that crisper missile to hit. >> hit the target and you are positive for the virus. this one known as detector doesn't need special equipment or hard to find chemicals in short supply. not only that, dr. chen explains it's fast. >> so we have been able to show less than 40 minute turn around time. >> dr. charles chu is currently validating the test. >> a single reaction in a tube and make the read outas simple as a urine pregnancy test where you would have a color change that would show whether or not a patient was infected. >> in san francisco, alan martin, kpix 5. >>> once it's approved by the fda, it will go to labs and hopefully any health clinic, do

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night after another long week, annie karni, white house reporter with "the new york times," lanhee chen, research fellow at the hoover institution, former policy director for the romney/ryan effort, notably a former senior official with the department of health and human services. and dr. anne rimoin back with us as well, a professor of epidemiology at ucla where she runs the center for global and immigrant health specializing in emerging infectious diseases, having started her life's work in this area as a peace corps volunteer in africa. annie karni, i'd like to begin with you. is it possible the president views during a pandemic two different constituencies, his people in quotes and the rest of the people in the united states? >> we saw him thinking about politics first with those liberate michigan, liberate virginia tweets today. he saw an opportunity there. conservative media has been talking a lot about these protests, especially in michigan where the governor whitmer has been talked about as a running mate for joe biden. so he saw a political opportunity there. but i think mostly

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nancy chen, cbs news. >>> before skipping the waiting room, always check with your insurance to makesure they cover telehealth. >>> a young boy in mexico has found a new way to relieve the boredom of being in lockdown. 12-year-old jorge martinez is helping doctors by making face visors with his 3-d pr he has m each shield can take around 45 minutes to make. mexico has 5000 covid-19 confirmed cases and more than 400 deaths. >>> let's get a check of the forecast with mary. good morning. >>> if you love the sunshine you are going to like today. even if it is just looking at the window or hanging out in your backyard. we will see mild to warm daytime highs through the afternoon. a clear start and also looking at temperatures in the 40s and 50s. we have cool temperatures but not as chilly as yesterday morning. 51 in concord, oakland at 56, livermore 46, 54 seven cisco, 53 san jose, and here's what to expect. clear and cool conditions for the afternoon. it will be warm especially inland once again. a little bit cooler for the bay and the coast with onshore flow. still a mild day for the ba

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lahnee chen, the president has offered mixed messages when it comes to bernie sanders.s sanders supporters to vote for him. on the other hand, other members of the conservative party want to run against biden as a sanders socialist wanna be. is the president hurting the ability of the party to go after biden from the center? >> i don't know that he is. i mean, look, i think the president's also set this up as this sort of capitalism versus socialism kind of contest, so he's going to fit joe biden into that box regardless of what the policy is. this is why this notion that, you know, biden is going to try to move even farther to the left, i don't see why he would want to do that because at the end of the day, the key animating factor for democrats, whether they're progressives to the far left or in the center, is the desire to beat donald trump. so going even farther to the left to me doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. in terms of for the republicans, i think that the toughest thing is going to be if biden continues to hue to a relatively more centrist agenda, it

wilbur chen, thank you very much. stay well.i mention ad moment ago we'll be talking to a woman in a couple of minutes who has been taking this drug we've been discussing for her lupus and she's really worried about shortages. plus cruise ships with infected passengers are still stranded at sea. we're talking to a woman stuck on one of those ships next. (vo) at sprint, our priority is keeping our customers, employees, and communities safe. during these uncertain times we want you to get great service without leaving the safety of your home. shop at sprint.com for free next day shipping and no activation fees on our best new phone deals, like the samsung galaxy s20 5g for just $0 a month. plus, you'll also get a $100 prepaid mastercard when you switch online. stay healthy and visit sprint.com to get the services you need. for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com rowithout the commission fees and account minimums. so, you can start investing wherever you are - even on the bus. download now and get your first stock on us

and this is what we look at every day out of our kitchen window is the -- the chens side. the windows they are worried about are back in here so partly are blocked by their stairway. so we know they want us to change the size of our building, but i feel like our plans are very reasonable, and i actually talked to kevin wong about that before, and if you remember seeing my response, i address the thing about the window. i said we would put fogged or ribbed glass in so we wouldn't be looking into his house. we really don't want to do that anyway. so we just, we feel like it was fair for them to do, should be fair for us to do. that's why, you know, we knew they wanted us to knock a lot of space off, but we felt like we wanted to pursue the plans the way they were drawn up and approved. so that's it. >> thank you. >> so you have four minutes left. if there's someone that lives in the same house as you, now would be their same time to speak. otherwise they'll be called up as public comment later. >> i think we've said it all. you know, not meeting with them is just because the

professor chen by the way i should tell you is one of the foremost experts on in this field that's the reason we wanted to make sure we could have him on he's actually used by the world health organization when they create their strategies protocols for dealing with certain viruses including the corona virus which is why we were so. happy to be able to get to him and have him on but these things happen in television from time to time you have technical issues we're going to fix some and we're going to be right back this is the news with rick sanchez. we'll be right back. the world is driven by a dream shaped by. the . thinks. we dared to ask. all the alternative all. the stage shows the. cold real choices binary choice and only choices if you say. binary is not a child's flew of the states to provide a new picture of the cold ted start negotiations with. the known invited to know those then by to. be put on the table. micrographs friends aren't slights against you know whites or men for example there are there slights against women or nonwhites so it's always the idea is that statement

. >> let's start with natasha chen in atlanta. good morning to you. you met georgia business owners to talk about what they're facing now over whether to open or not open, and if they do, how. >> reporter: good morning, victor and christy. there is a similar theme when i talk to various business owners, no matter how they feel about the governor's decision, there seems to be an element of surprise where they may not have expected their type of business to be in the first wave of businesses allowed to reopen. we're also hearing that there is financial difficulty. all of them who have opened their doors tell me they haven't seen much of any financial aid at all, so this is really about their livelihood balanced with the calculation of the risk they're taking for public health. this barber shop behind me said yesterday when they opened there was a line out the door of 15 people. so there are customers really eager to come to these businesses. and in the same strip mall we're seeing another hair salon just down from them, and they are taking only appointm

iecently spoke with propublica health reporter caroline chen,nt who delved ithe data to find out more. car toline, let's staking about how do we figure out who especially if there is this possibility that we are now flatting the curve. how do i know if i'm somebody who's already had it, and if i'm asymptomatic? >> so, i think that there are twnco ts here. a true asymptomatic person is w somebo never had symptoms at all. arend t another word that i'll introduce, which is "pre-symptomatic," which is se omebody who at the tey were tested and was positive, didn't yet have symptoms but then maybe later on had a cough or fever. so, we now know that there are bo types of people, more commonly maybe that there are pre-symptomatics. and is think ially important that we be testing pheople, you know, w diagnostic tests so we can find these people out there because people can start transmitting the disease before their symptoms turn up. to your other question, which is, can i find out if i had been that requires a different type of test. that's an antibody test that's done with the blood. >> sree

sharon chen introduces us to this week's jefferson award winner. >> we got quite a load this time. >>rter: 16-year-old eric gann bears gifts, boxes of donated books. the junior at san mateo's high school founded books for all three years ago to inspire children to read. >> is part of the reason i wanted to work with elementary schools, that was where i got my passion for reading. >> reporter: eric wanted to give books to scrolls, schools serving low income students so he did the research, and found an elementary school. his parents drive him some three hours from home where eric delivers to grateful principles. >> it's refreshing to have the community, to want to give back to students and children in need. >> reporter: this library gets only $2200 a year to serve its 600 students so librarian stephanie aguilar welcomes the yearly donations from eric. >> it's like christmas. >> reporter: he brings free supplies for teachers and books for students from stories to science, facts to fantasy. >> they are just grinning from ear to ear and super excited that we got more books. they love it.

analysis are nbcxdó[st welker, author and historian jon meach meacham, yamiche t(alcindor, an lonny chenw at the huver institution. welcome to sunday and a special edition of "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in telephovision historyyÑ this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chu' tor.ip &h(lc% >> good sunday morning and a happy easter and a happy passover. it's hard to talk about good news when more than 2,000 people are dying on a daily basis in this country, butq this past week, we did see some reasons for e1optimism, verye1 cautious optimism. as of this morning, there haveo been more than half a millionñr confirmed cases of covid-19 in the united states and more than 20,000 deaths. both numbers sadly now lead the world. but the curve appears tows$(q flattening, as the pace of new cases has slowedñr and the ratef hospitalizations is down. all suggesting that eventually, the rate of deaths will alsolp slow. "the new york times" has a deeply reported story thath/kp weeks president trump ignoredq repeated warnings fromok white

christi and victor, back to you. >> natasha chen, we appreciate the report.hank you. >>> now, look, the work keeps food on america's tables, now, we're talking about the farming communities here across the country because they're facing their own coronavirus crisis as well. >> as cnn's paul vercammen reports. paul. >> reporter: the agri business suffering 3.5%. this is santo paolo, population 30,000. everybody driving up to get a free box and the people here at santa paula say they're seeing a lot of new faces. people who have not needed that hand. >> it's reduced hours, furloughs, losing jobs, it's a combination of all of those causing people to wait in line to get food. >> i work at the school district, i work for the after school program. so as kids are not in school, i'm not in school. as soon as the kids are back in school, i probably won't be back until august. >> reporter: and the growers say people are just not demanding their produce. not the restaurants. and not the stores. we came upon one farmer who basically had to just pack up a bunch of celery

natasha chen is with us.alk to us about ways to share your devotion. >> right, people are being creative. there are faith leaders who say they will be inviting people to their doors. and president trump was asked about that. he has a message for those faith leaders. he said let the country heal first. and question have time to meet later, hopefully, for the rest of our lives. >> reporter: it's hard to keep church and state fully separate as religious debates rage over whether they're allowed to stay open. in kansas, three coronavirus clusters are tied to church gatherings. the state filed a lawsuit after the limit of ten people. the greater baptist church protested from the pulpit. >> my friends, the moment our churches start taking instructions or orders from the government about what to do with they are doors of her sanctuaries, we may enter the slippery slope that we'll never get back. >> reporter: in new orleans, religious leaders are taking social distancing to new heights, literally. the archbishop who

hospital workers and restaurants, this week's jefferson awa the bay area goes to iella baldwin, sharon chen>> more than 3,000 people have donated and :00,000 people have donated and you can nominate your own hero at kpix.com/hero. we'll be right back. >>> 55 and time for a look at this morning's top stories. this weekend could be crucial in determining how long the stay-at-home orders continue. warm weather could start bringing people outside, but signs all over san francisco urge people to social distance or stay home and stay away from beaches and parks. parking lots have been closed and many of those spots and the precedio trust have been closed to cars. >>> people in santa cruz have to feed parking meters after weeks of free parking as part of the city's efforts to discourage large gatherings at popular beaches. the other big change in santa cruz county, face coverings. starting this morning they are mandatory for anyone older than 12. >>> ten patients have died of coronavirus at an assisted living facility in redwood city. at least ten residents and seven employees have tested positive

natasha chen, cnn, atlanta. >> i think it's fascinating, victor, how resourceful people are right nowople are having to continue those family traditions and teach grandma how to use zoom. >> yeah. >> and bring the family together, i have seen, though, which has been quite helpful that several mayors have declared the easter bunny an essential worker, so those deliveries will continue to happen. >> that is absolutely important and essential. >>> we have comedian jim gaffney and his wife on a mission to fe feed. and the campaign they launched to send food to every hospital in new york city. (vo) in this world where people are staying at home, many of life's moments are being put on hold. at carvana, we understand that, for some, getting a car just can't wait. that's why the new way to buy and sell a car is also the safer way. at carvana, you can do it all 100% online from home, with a touchless delivery and pick-up process to keep you safe. and for even greater peace of mind, all carvana cars come with a seven-day return policy. shop now and get up to 90 days to make your first payment.

>>should chen, cnn atlanta. well tonight, we know th one has reopened after being shut wn to enforce social diancing guidelines yet to an amy beach about an hour north of la and ventura county. >>and it is not a free for all at least that's the hoe this is being called a soft reopening officials are saying. >>this whole idea is contingent on everybody continuing to follow the physical distancing guidelines and visitors are being asd to wear masks at the ach of people do not continue to practice physical distancing the beach. they say can easily be close to get. back up in the bay area as we take a live look outside get a check on the 4 zone recast tonight, the shot right here shows that bay bridge toll plaza on a. weekend tonight. what is the sunday. it's our day and ours are actually on on 4 meteorologist mabrisa rodriguez jos us now with e forecast. for the beginning of the week >>either grande and nicki yet sunday april th this evening and let's take a ve look outside downtown san francisco, spifically in sou

cnn's natasha chen joins me now with more on protests to stay-at-home orders. what are you hearing?porter: fred, there was another protest like this in colorado today. one of the organizers told and affiliate of ours they felt the state government overstepped its bounds. those very state and local measures are exactly what the trump administration has asked these leaders to do, dependent on the circumstances in their regions. [ chanting ] >> reporter: protesters stood shoulder to shoulder in many states over the last several days -- to voice frustrations with stay-at-home orders and demand an end to the economic shutdown brought on by coronavirus. >> freedom and liberty. we're losing it! >> reporter: ignoring social distancing measures that had been company slowing the deadly pandemic spread, many gathered at the steps of state capitals directing anger towards governors whom president trump criticizesed saturday. >> some of the governors have gotten carried away. >> reporter: it's the trump administration who told the very state governors to enact state-by-state mitigation efforts.

let's go to natasha chen in columbia, south carolina. and natasha, you talked to one business owner who said he can't afford to say closed much longer. of course he's not alone, right? >> reporter: absolutely, brianna. we're talking to several businesses and there is a theme here. they don't know where their money is going to come from. there is not a lot of information or access to the federal assistance they're looking for and so they are very eager to earn a living but also worried about protecting their own health and the health of their customers so it is a balancing act here. different businesses are making different choices. one behind us, lucy's, that owner is open today. here is what he told me. >> if i see that the cases are spiking all week long in south carolina, i will close again voluntarily rather than be a part of what may or may not have been a poor decision. >> reporter: and we are hearing from those coastal towns as you mentioned, a lot of them are still restricting beach access. myrtle beach is keeping the beached clo

loni chen, research fellow. former foll former policy director and dr. anne back with us. a professor at ucla specializing in emergency infectious diseases starting with the peace corps in africa. the president views during a pandemic two different con stit constituents in the united states. >> we saw him speaking politics with those liberate michigan, liberate virginia today. he's been talking a lot about the protests. especially in michigan where govern whitmer has been seen as a possible running mate for joe biden. it is not my people versus other people in terms of who gets sick or doesn't get sick. i think it is me versus the governors, versus china or the w.h.o. about blame. what is consuming him according to people in the administration is not so much feeling the weight of this crisis on his shoulders but real deep frustration about how he's being covered and the narrative he wants to set about his leadership is not what he sees. when the country reopens, he doesn't want the blame on his shoulders for deaths that might happen after states reopen. if it was too early

cnn's natasha chen is following this development for us.asha, why the change for georgia beaches and how are beach communities reacting? >> reporter: fred, the reason may not be explicit. you can tell by the photos tweeted this weekends of relatively empty beaches his office currently doesn't believe this to be a problem. his office told me there were about 150 people on the beach at the island this weekend. frustrating a mayor there who earlier in a statement talked how the pentagon has had to order 150 body bags. calling the governor's reaction reckless but they would take legal recourse. here's what she said. >> asking our residents on tybee island to continue to comply with safety restrictions that we have put into place. they're not mandated anymore because the governor has rekrindrekrind rescinded that until april 15th. don't know what's going to happen after that. i want everyone to know the city of tybee island has not opened the beaches. our governor has mandated that the beaches in georgia be opened. >> reporter: she also said the

nancy chen look at one survivor trying to help them. >>> oh, my gosh!on monday and joyfully embraced her family. she hopped in the car and headed straight to new york presbyterian hospital to donate plasma. doctors are trying to determine if antibodies from survivors' blood can help. >> the goal is we have enough plasma in the supply we can do trials to figure out where it might be most useful. >> reporter: baron start ed feeling ill on march 13th. she was ultimately diagnosed with covid-19. she followed the guidance to self-quarantine, holing up in the bedroom of her long island home. her kids left her notes on the window and did magic tricks to entertain her. she had good days -- >> i really feel so much better. >> reporter: and bad days. >> it's kind of like one step forward, one step back. >> reporter: during her quarantine, baron launched the public facebook group survivor corps which she now calls the epicenter of hope. >> my body figured out how to fight it off. so let's use that superpower that my body created and transfer it to somebody who --

natasha chen is in douglasville, georgia. how are businesses reacting? well, fred you can imagine there's a very mixed reaction here. but there are some common themes. the owners of barber shops and bowling alleys that we talked to were surprised that their type of business is in the first wave of businesses allowed to open. we're seeing a barber shop here with a pretty steady flow of customers coming in and we talked about how they're putting distance between people, marking off space on their benches so people can't sit too close. and then there's a hair salon just down from them. they are doing appointment only. and that way they can control when people actually come in. no more than one at a time. the tattoo parlor down here is also open now. we're seeing some people go in there. so while they are reopening, we are hearing some reluctance from these business owners because their decisions to open their doors is really a financial one. they are desperate to earn income because they have not gotten any financial help. and they know it's a public health

>>should chen, cnn atlanta. southern california beaches decided to reopen amid the coronavirus pandemic but with some restrictions said ventura counties part when amy beach is now open to everyone. >>visitors must practice physical distancing and wear a mask, public restrooms at the beach are closed and sunbathing are gathering in groups is prohibited to discourage large gatherings street parking also not allowed near the beach in about half the a parking spots are coned off public access to the beach had been closed since april 1st. >>60 people in new york are facing the music for gathering to try to make music the n y p d says these people met at a brooklyn barber shop last night reportedly to film a music video officers arrested at least 2 people on weapons charges they issued summonses for dozens of others both the governor and mayor have banned gatherings during the pandemic and tonight, sad news for the n y p d the department lost another member to covid-19 today bringing the total number of virus related

here is cnn's natasha chen. >> reporter: following stay-at-home orders can be complicated, especially the faithful as we head into what is the holiest weeks for christians and jews alike. so how do you gather for these sacred events, palm sunday, easter, passover, when you can't gather for the sake of everyone's health? >> i don't think the government has the authority to close a church. i'm certainly not going to do that. i think particularly coming up in the easter season, people are going to want to have access to religious services, whether it's online, whether it's in a more socially distant type of service. >> reporter: out of 42 states with stay-at-home orders signed by governors, 14 of them offer exemptions for places of worship or religious institutions. they often include guidelines encouraging services to be done online. for example, in texas, the attorney general says if gatherings happen in person, they have to follow cdc social distancing guidelines, but most stay at home states are not making exceptions. >> with all due respect, it's essential we practice social distanc

. >> but, as natasha chen reports some people plan to defy stay-at-home orders and gather anyway thister. >> reporter: it's hard to keep church and state fully separate this passover and easter, as debating rage over whether religious institutions should be allowed to stay open during a pandemic. in kansas, the department of the health said three coronavirus clusters are tied to church gatherings. the state's democratic governor filed a lawsuit after a majority legislative council threw out her order to limit religious gathering to ten people. in philadelphia, a baptist church protested from the pulpit. >> my friends, the moment our churches start taking instructions or orders from the government about what to do with they are doors of her sanctuaries, we may enter the slippery slope that we'll never get back. >> reporter: in new orleans, religious leaders are taking social distancing to new heights, literally. the archbishop who just recovered from the coronavirus flew over the city in a world war ii plane to send blessings below. in a show of interfaith unity, a rabbi did the same.

. >> at cnn natasha chen has been meeting with business owners to talk about the die lema they are facing as to whether to open. >> reporter: for the first time in almost a mo >> we'll allow fitness centers, barbers -- >> reporter: barbers like eric who happens to be diabetic. >> reporter: the president who initially supported states to quote liberate pulled a 180 issuing a public rebuke of the republican he once endorsed. >> i didn't like to see a lot of things happening and i wasn't happy with it. i wasn't happy with brian kemp. >> reporter: the state won't see a peak in covid-19 deaths until next week according to widely accepted data. this barrier shop was one of two open out of the tend donna whitfield visited. she's a beauty and barber supplier. her first day back in a truck in a month. she rather not risk bring the virus the home her husband who has cancer but she can't afford not to work. >> i'm on the fence. i don't know, you know. i hope we're doing the right thing. >> reporter: the right thing for randy hicks is making sure his 25 employees at southern lanes bowling alley can s

thanks very much, natasha chen in atlanta. let's stay in atlanta right now.archer there, leisha lance bottoms, has been critical of governor kemp's decision to reopen the state. the mayor is joining us right now. mayor, thank you so much for joining us. based on what you've seen this weekend so far with businesses like hair salons, gyms reopening, for example, how concerned are you that now restaurants will follow suit tomorrow? >> wolf, i'm extremely concerned. and as an elected official, we often want to be right. but i can tell you that this is one that i hope that i'm wrong about. and i've said it before. i'll say it again. i hope that the governor is right and i'm wrong, because if he is wrong, more people will die. and this notion that we can somehow deal with more people who are sick is ludicrous, because we don't have a cure, and there are healthy people walking into hospitals dying from this illness. and so, simply because we may have a bed to offer them or a hospital room for them doesn't mean that we can save their lives. and i think that therein l

. >> national correspondent natasha chen is in columbia, south carolina. i wondered, how are people reacting to this? are they listening to it? are they filling up the beaches again? >> reporter: well, jim and poppy, as with all situations i think there are people who feel strongly on both sides. we know that the governor tweeted on saturday that he felt south carolina was ready and he used #acceleratesc, and this morning we're seeing on social media that people are using that hashtag and twisting its meaning saying that if they reopen too soon that this could accelerate the spread of the virus. there are people planning a protest here in columbia on friday, but i'm also seeing a facebook group with more than 28,000 members urging the governor not to do this. so i think it's, there's conflict on both sides, jim and poppy. >> what is behind the beach town coalition? i mean, i do think that's interesting, when you have smaller localities basically saying no, we're not going to do what you're saying we can or should do. >> reporter: right, so the opening of t

to columbia, south carolina, natasha chen joins us. what is governor mcmaster doing in terms of easing restrictions? >> well, poppy, as of 5:00 yesterday, certain stores that sell furniture, clothing, books, music, florists, flea markets, department stores, sporting good stores, they can reopen as long as they keep 20% capacity or five customers per thousand square feet. that's why we're in front of loose lucy's. they say they're very excited to reopen while other businesses tell us they are still too nervous to reopen and feel it is too early. yesterday i asked the governor and the state epidemiologist whether they had followed white house guidelines in seeing that 14-day downward trend in cases before reopening. here's what they said. >> those are guidelines. we're following guidelines, that's not the law. that was the guidelines and they're very good, well thought out and we appreciate it. we also -- we have information here from our professionals here in south carolina as well and we go by that as well. >> reporter: it is also a ve

cnn's natasha chen is in douglasville, georgia. what's been the response? >> well, as you can imagine, there are some businesses that have chosen not to reopen, but the ones who have, like the barber shop behind us and a tattoo parlor in the strip mall, they have done so with some serious considerations on balancing how they really need to earn an income versus the public health risk. as you can imagine, also, people's hair getting long. so yesterday when this barber shop opened for the first time in a month, there were 15 people out the door waiting in line. businesses like jenkins barber shop opened on friday for the first time in almost a month. >> as you see, we have the benches marked. >> these are disposable here. >> reporter: the governor said the state is ready. >> we'll allow gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers. >> reporter: baesh barbers like who happens to be diabetic. >> as a barber, what we have to do and i definitely would not have opened anything against the health officials' recommendations or the president. >> r

from each other, but he also told cnn that he wouldn't be policing that strictly, ana. >> natasha chen, thank you for your reporting. in new york, the state hardest hit by this pandemic, governor cuomo says if the data holds, he believes his state has passed the high point and is on the descent, yet the number of people admitted to hospital and suspected of having covid-19 is actually up in new york city. as of today, there is at least 849 patients getting treatment in the city's icus. this as new york state's death toll is climbing and its number of cases nears a quarter of a million. evan mcmoran santoro joins us now. and andrew cuomo was not mincing words for president trump today. >> reporter: city officials here in new york have been warning for weeks that budget shortfalls caused by the loss of revenue around this pandemic will be a big obstacle toward reopening. we're talking about huge cuts to city services, huge cuts to state services. the governor mentioned that possibly cuts to hospitals might have to happen. but here in new york city, governor bill de blasio was not happy w

natasha chen is following that story.mage being seen, you know, multiple times, many times over in cities across this country. it's getting pretty bad. >> absolutely. fred, we're seeing the people in these cars may have lost their jobs, filed for unemployment and depending on what state they're in, they could still be waiting for that to come through. and that startling image of people waiting for food, essentially bread lines, is a phenomenon we haven't seen since the great depression. this bumper to bumper traffic wasn't caused by a car accident nor is it a rush-hour commute. for people in these cars there is no more commute because there's no longer a job, no longer a paycheck. and because of that, with increasing alarm there is no more food. >> as people are getting furloughed and losing their jobs, they need to get access to food. >> reporter: across america from coast to coast in red states and blue, in big cities and small towns are scenes like these. people who can no longer afford to go to the grocery store. peop

. >> democrat leaders continue to negotiate funding with stephen ma knew chen and more money for states and hospitals. >>> i think the stager statistic here, alan, if you know, there is 349 billion dollars set aside for small business loans in this program. that money, of course, they say has run out. 1.6 million applications for loans and some haven't received money yet. >> scott, this decision about reopening the country, this is so opposite about what the president said a few days ago that he would absolutely be the one to decide. do you know what pressure he got from senators and the senate. >> when you think about it, you have to think about legally what the president would be able to do in terms of having mentioned earlier this week in terms of saying the country can reopen again. i think up to this point we have seen, especially in states like california, governors have taken the lead in terms of what they want to do in terms of close things down and deciding essential workers and when they can actually move and curfews and things like that. the president and cbs news obtained au

nancy chen shows us the demand for puzzles. >> reporter: like so many americans right now, mark and lindsay spending plenty of time with their family. >> we came up to our parents evesince with my brother.en quarantine. >> the couple is working from home but stops family members of the puzzle pieces start fitting together. >> to close out a day of work and go to something that feels comfortable in a time where things are not and things are up in the air, that is probably providing about of good feelings for people in a time when they needed. >> jigsaw puzzles providing relief and sales are skyrocketing. >> we have people here lately, i've discovered that while keeping safe and staying in, we can still go out! -sort of. so while you're discovering new things to do in the box, we'll be here for you... at the drive-thru, on the mobile app, and with delivery. we're gonna find a way through this. we're working really, really hard in hospitals, our nurses are techs, all the docs. it's about staggering when people get sick so that the hospitals can cope. we're gonna go through an awful lot of thes

wilbur chen of the university of maryland and dr. joseph allen of the harvard school of public health. they will talk about the development of a covid-19 vaccine and the merits of wearing masks during the pandemic. also, virginia congressman bobby scott on the pandemic response in his state. "washington journal" prime-time tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span. and some campaign 2020 news. vermont independent senator bernie sanders announced today that he is suspending his campaign for the democratic presidential nomination. here's what he had to say. sen. sanders: good morning, and thank you very much for joining me. i want to express to each of you, my deep gratitude for helping to create an unprecedented grass-roots political campaign that has had a profound impact in changing our nation. i want to thank the hundreds of thousands of volunteers who knocked on doors, millions of them in the freezing winters of iowa and new hampshire, and in the heat of nevada and south carolina, and in states throughout the country. i want to thank the