thank you, cherelle jackson. you know i felt so safe in my neighborhood when i saw police walking through the neighborhood. what you call that00 eye forget what do you call that. foot patrol. i felt safe when i i felt more cohesively sense of safety seeing the police walking through the neighborhoods and getting to know the neighbors and the store owners. the people that run the shops and everything. we need more of that. we need people to clean the streets more. we really do. people have to clean the city and county of san francisco needs to clean the streets more. because when they clean it once a week or every 2 weeks bite time they come back it is really screwed up. i think we know this will kill my career i think we need more police, also and need police that are culturally sensitively trained and cultural competency trained. people that electric like me when we call the police the numbers are high we have the police give us more problems, you know we get more push back from the police and some agencies in t

thank you, cherelle jackson. you know i felt so safe in my neighborhood when i saw police walking through the neighborhood. what you call that00 eye forget what do you call that. foot patrol. i felt safe when i i felt more cohesively sense of safety seeing the police walking through the neighborhoods and getting to know the neighbors and the store owners. the people that run the shops and everything. we need more of that. we need people to clean the streets more. we really do. people have to clean the city and county of san francisco needs to clean the streets more. because when they clean it once a week or every 2 weeks bite time they come back it is really screwed up. i think we know this will kill my career i think we need more police, also and need police that are culturally sensitively trained and cultural competency trained. people that electric like me when we call the police the numbers are high we have the police give us more problems, you know we get more push back from the police and some agencies in t

cherelle barber a social epidemiologist. she joins us now from philadelphia, pennsylvania. thanks so much for being here with us. so you were in jacksonhis problem even as someone who studies these types of issues, were you surprised that a major city, a state capital, could suffer from these types of issues in 2022? >> i was actually not really surprised. when we think about jackson, mississippi, in particular, but just cities in general, you know, the kinds of infrastructure issues that are -- we're seeing in jackson, you know, are happening in other parts of the country as well and it's due to these, you know, long-term, long-standing issues, systematic disease investment, structural racism that has literally neglected cities, neglected infrastructure, neglected all of these systems that are necessary for people to just live. and so, you know, going down to jackson, i've been doing work in jackson for over a decade now and we've seen trends in terms of segregation and disinvestment for many, many years. we were mostly thinking about it in terms of cardiovascular disease and infrastructure for example access to healthy foods, et cet