to you, mark, cherilyn ifill, a big part of the training, she said in the film that all of these employeeso watch today, we have to recognize that black people are navigating space, public space differently than white people. and that really struck me. is what starbucks is doing the right thing today? >> it is a good start. i think howard schultz's point this is just a small slice of a bigger project is important. but it has been underemphasized. so much of what starbucks said, is, hey, we have a problem, we're going to deal with it, shut down for the day, for a few hours, and handle this problem. it reinforces the idea that it is an interactional misunderstanding, we got it wrong. >> but the other option is don't shut down at all. you can't as a business, you know, you can't shut down for like a month. right? >> i disagree. i disagree. i think there is always more than two options. the other option is to say, hey, we're going to shut down, but part of our advertising campaign, part of our problem solving crisis management strategy is to say, we're going to have a serieses of trainings, th