ray chertoff canners it has reached the point not just of absurdity but of obscenity in this country. coming up think your e-mail is for your eyes only. sorry it's not i'll tell you why after the break. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think for us.

need a union they need those submitters the they need and we need fewer lobbyists like a michael chertoff selling these x. rays or no scanners it has reached the point not just of absurdity but of obscenity in this country. coming out think your e-mail is for your eyes all right. sorry it's not i'll tell you why after the break. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right.

s to buy from them everything from bombs to fighter jets to chertoff inners for ports so if we let the republicans win this budget fight as the corporate media seems more than willing to let happen in a few years from now we'll be asking these same questions about what to do with the soaring budget deficit and at the same time wondering why the middle class seems to have completely disappeared the solutions to our budget problems are simply wouldn't believe simply in fact i can tell you the solution using only six words roll back the reagan tax cuts heck roll back the bush tax cuts go back to clinton levels where the wealthiest americans paid an extra three percent just three percent three measly percentage points and we take a huge chunk of our debt out of our deficit just like that. remember the clinton budget passed without a single republican vote the house not only gave us a balanced budget but a surplus and if we roll back the reagan tax cuts and made billionaires pay at least seventy four percent like they did for more than half of the twentieth century when our nation prospered

there yet. >> i don't think we are but we are evil thing and moving into giving back to secretary chertoff's time in terms of allowing local police into the room to set the table and for a while below the salt of the british expression but eventually we have allowed the salt so we are not there yet, there is a lot of tension and the have and you just describe it off and we are there yet. >> it's night and day from what it was three or four years ago. we do information sharing and state and local and have mcnamara who your who played a key role in the office of the right director of national intelligence and he helped us through a lot of issues, but we did a lot of it ourselves and secretary chertoff, you know, he pushed me to get the intelligence out to the state and local to do joint assessments of the fbi to encourage the fusion centers to do the assessments and also give the training down so we were always mindful of privacy and civil liberties as we do share information and some of it sensitive at times in the state and local levels. >> thank you so much for being here. [applause] [inaud

i think there were great strides made during the secretary chertoff's time at dhs. negotiating, yu know, agreements, particularly in europe. and i think secretary napolitano has continued to work on trying to becae they recognize that a big part of that is going to having to to rely upon our foreign partners out there to ensure those passengers arriving from a foreign country has been screened, have been checked, they have been provided with the proper information to run the data, to see as we said, someone use that dirty old word a while ago, profile. we are targeting people that we should be targeting, and the other 99.99% can pass through the check point and get on their way and not go through that hassle. but it is about -- but, you know, a lot of these countries are very hesitant because of sovereignty issues, legal issues, of being able to provide the information that we feel we need for us to be feel comfortable that that peson is a quote, unquote, trusted traveler. and so they are still working on that. that's a big part of the solution. as i said before, cu

michael chertoff was this at least, a very good judge, he was an, i thought, an effective leader of thehomeland security. yet, bush kept him on as a manner of loyalty. which is disturbing. i'd also add that kathleen blanco who wasn't terribly cooperative with the federal respond deserves some of the blame. some of it is the immensity of the disaster. some of it there's a lot of blame to go around in terms of incompetence decision making. >> managing the crisis was not well done. actually early 2005 was a bad year for carl rove. because they preferred to try to reform social security instead of immigration. and in his memoir, he says i'm sorry, we shouldn't have done that. we should have tried immigration and then worried about restructured social security. then it was rove who suggested you don't need to land, just look out the window. of course, that become a lasting image of him looking out the window. >> right, and the consequences of katrina on public opinion were quite severe. if we were to point to the things that by the end of bush's term in office really drove democrats and repu

the mitigation funding for the fence and $50 million do you address -- the secretary chertoff and campbell are agree it was for the measures. the wildlife habitat in those locations down there, the purpose of that is to maintain habitat whether or not we've seen recently. >> in the last 20 years you have it be one. you put half the money. later i'll ask you about $5 million for jaguar prevention, but half of that went to mexico instead. we have a lot more questions about how uses education fund and where this is going. i'm out of time so i have to go to ranking member, mr. tierney. >> again, i want to thank you for being here. i do with the issues are. i assume all of you get it as well. i do want to keep beating a dead horse, but i guess the point is that i think there've been some situations where people have thought this was affected to some degree by the memoranda of agreement by the laws that exist or whatever, do you believe there's a way to work it out with the memorandum of agreement and by working together properly on that. i was taken aback by mr. chaffetz's remarks that people a

the mitigation funding for the fence and the $50 million that you address, the secretary chertoff and kempthorne agreed the expenditure of the funding was appropriate for those mitigation measures. there are no ocelots down there. >> the wildlife habitat and those locations down there, the purpose of that is to maintain habitat for the ocelots. whether or not we have seen one recently is still -- >> recently come in the last 20 years haven't seen one yet he put all the money from this extortion down there for that particular project. leader in going to ask about $5 million that was supposed to do for the job required prevention but half went to mexico instead. we got a lot more questions about how you're using this medication and where the monies are going. i've been out of times i'm going to have to yield to the ranking member mr. tierney. >> well, again, i want to thank you for being here. i get it. i get with the issues i assume by this time all of you get it as well. and i don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but i guess the point is i think there have been some situations peo

michael chertoff was not an effective leader of the department of homeland security, and yet bush kept on as a matter of loyalty. kathleen blanco who was not militarily cooperative with the federal response, deserves part of the blame on this. part of this is just the immensity of the disaster. there is a lot of blame to go round. >> in the short term, managing the crisis was not well done. early 2005 was a bad year for karl rove, because they prefer to try and reform social security instead of immigration. in his memoir, he says i am sorry, we should not have done that. we should have tried immigration reform first and then worry about trying to reform social security. it became a lasting image of him looking out the window. >> the consequences of katrina on public opinion or quite severe. if we were to point to the thing that by the end of bush's term in office really drove democrats and republicans to extremes, one was the iraq war, which was much more gradual of the course of his term in office. >> the iraq war cost two points and katrina cost 200 points. >> with katrina, it is cer

i think there were great strides made during the secretary chertoff's time at dhs. negotiating, you know, agreements, particularly in europe. and i think secretary napolitano has continued to work on trying to because they recognize that a big part of that is going to having to to rely upon our foreign partners out there to ensure those passengers arriving from a foreign country has been screened, have been checked, they have been provided with the proper information to run the data, to see as we said, someone use that dirty old word a while ago, profile. we are targeting people that we should be targeting, and the other 99.99% can pass through the check point and get on their way and not go through that hassle. but it is about -- but, you know, a lot of these countries are very hesitant because of sovereignty issues, legal issues, of being able to provide the information that we feel we need for us to be feel comfortable that that person is a quote, unquote, trusted traveler. and so they are still working on that. that's a big part of the solution. as i said before