chertoff was the right man for the job because he's incredibly smart.ifficult issues, a lot of first impression issues, and he could look at those and decide them very quickly. >> you really need to be able to make snap judgments? >> to make judgments quickly. you can't mull over things for years. dhs is not the kind of agency where you can do that. chertoff also had successfully navigated the inner agency community, something jeh johnson has done at the department of defense. they were both former prosecutors from the southern district of new york. so i think ultimately, president bush thought that background would give secretary chertoff a real leg up and help him bring together this agency. i think he did so. >> spencer, we have had two governors serve in that role, tom ridge of pennsylvania, napolitano of arizona. is it important to have a big experience with a big sprawling bureaucracy, because that's what this job is. >> it has to be important. this is one of the most unwieldy agencies in the federal government. it faces a lot, right now, existent

now ceo of the chertoff group. what do you make of what's happened today?ays when something like this happens we learn something about where the holes are in security and where they need to be plugged. have you learned anything from what you know so far today? >> i think what we've learned, bill, is that the ability to have rapid reaction is key in incidents like this. not only as we saw in the naval yard shooting just a couple weeks ago, but also in a vehicle situation like we're witnesses today. the other point i would make is, when you look at the overall resiliency of the capitol area, you'll notice that this incident happened, and literally within two hours of it, they've already restarted allowing pedestrians to go back in front of the white house. and the legislature has already reconve reconvened. i think what we are learning is there's room for improvement and we'll probably find out more about as you mentioned a moment ago whether this individual was killed through either ballistics impact or through the trauma of the car accident. but what we are

the previous few secretaries, chertoff, napolitano, and ridge were lawyers. >> napolitano was a governor and had a lot of experience with border issues that he does not have. >> exactly. i think actually the most credible sort of questioning of his credentials would go to the fact that he does not have immigration experience. most of his work has been in the pentagon itself as general counsel under president obama, under bill clinton also in the air force's general counsel and a long practice dealing with security issues like drones and questioning about striking, you know, u.s. silverians link today overseas so he has a history in that area, not in immigration, not with management of a 220,000 bureaucracy, the size of homeland security. >> when you hear him say he thinks the war on terror should not be evenedless is one of the statements he made, what do you think he means by that? >> he made that statement, i believe it was this week that he made that statement before in speeches he made when he left government to the oxford union and at yale law school. i think we will see him pick a

the second one, michael chertoff gave thousand in donations to republicans including to george w.inated him for homeland security secretary. when each was nominated to run the homeland security agency, senators were in the senate, they raised no objections to the political donations from either candidates. both senators voted to confirm both nominees without a peep. now though they profess to be outraged jay johnson has done the same thing that guys did. it bothers them, it is deeply concerning them to when a democrat does it. when a republican does it, oh, that was okay. it's okay if you are a republican. it is the single most consistent principle in congress today. that said, if this is the best they could come up with, if this is the quality of the opposition to jay johnson's nomination, it is safe to say this is pretty much a done deal. we'll watch this space. across america people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. he sai

if you go back historically, i think at least one of the former secretaries, mike chertoff he was a judge. there's no question it's an. he doesn't have any experience in dealing with immigration, which is one of the main issues the department of homeland security has to deal with. >> do you think he's going have problems with confirmation at all, josh? >> i don't think it's going to be difficult for him to get confirmed confirmed confirmed. he's a well respected lawyerer. he's also a tough lawyer at the pentagon. >>> josh ger steen in washington. thank you. >>> police receive add call from a sinking boat. the boat capsized wednesday morning with 15 people aboard. they were being smuggled into the u.s. from three areas. passengers can be heard screaming for their lives. >> where's the emergency? >> we're 25 miles out from south beach. shut up. we need a rescue. >> can you tell me what your gbps coordinates are? >> hey, hey. >> what's going on sir. >> we're 25 miles out. >> what happen ded? what kind of boat are you on. >> sir, hello? hello. >> the coast guard found the 25-foot motor boat s

if you go back historically, i think at least one of the former secretaries, mike chertoff he was a judge. there's no question it's an. he doesn't have any experience in dealing with immigration, which is one of the main issues the department of homeland security has to deal with. >> do you think he's going have problems with confirmation at all, josh? >> i don't think it's going to be difficult for him to get confirmed confirmed confirmed. he's a well respected lawyerer. he's also a tough lawyer at the pentagon. >>> josh ger steen in washington. thank you. >>> police receive add call from a sinking boat. the boat capsized wednesday morning with 15 people aboard. they were being smuggled into the u.s. from three areas. passengers can be heard screaming for their lives. >> where's the emergency? >> we're 25 miles out from south beach. shut up. we need a rescue. >> can you tell me what your gbps coordinates are? >> hey, hey. >> what's going on sir. >> we're 25 miles out. >> what happen ded? what kind of boat are you on. >> sir, hello? hello. >> the coast guard found the 25-foot motor boat s

going back, you had ridge, chertoff, and now napolitano and now potentially this fourth. can you tell me more about what this position entails? >> why do americans care who is the department of homeland security cabinet secretary? remember, first and foremost, created after 9/11. for protection of the homeland. so jeh johnson, if confirmed, is going to be in the hot seat if heaven forbid there's another domestic terrorist attack. why didn't the u.s. see it coming? what kind of aide is there. i think they're coming out now. >> here is the president. let's take a listen. >> as president, my most solemn responsibility is the safety and security of the american people. and we've got an outstanding team here of folks who work every single day to make sure that we're doing everything we can to fulfill that responsibility. and that means that our entire government, our law enforcement and homeland security professionals, our troopser our diplomats, our intelligence personnel, are all working together. it means working with state and local partners to disrupt terrorist attacks, t