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, executive chairman of the chertoff group a global security and risk management form. good to see you again, welcome back back, sir. >> good to be on. >> here we go again. we can talk specifically about the irs problem but you're worried about a bigger problem involving internet security, aren't you? >> i am. i mean this is obviously a serious issue for the government, which has paid out a lot of money in fictitious tax refunds, but i think more generally people are worried about the security of their financial information, their health information, and if they get worried enough it's going to begin to have an impact on their willingness to engage in transactions and activity over the internet. >> how urgent mr. secretary, is it for the irs and other government agencies to ensure that their systems are as sound as possible given the amount and type of information they have on all of us? >> as the government is requiring more information and they're doing it now, for example, in the health area they have a responsibility to make sure they safeguard it. this particular h

this year 2007 secretary chertoff noted a chopped nearly 70% after operation stream line. recently the president of the border patrol union said operation stream line is one of the last stronghold we have as a deterrent. so have you talked to the department of justice to attend to restore this and actually expand it and if the number of people are coming, it would be even more effective, more tickle to initiate these prosecutions. you have to defend your agents. these are crimes. you should demand the department of justice prosecute this. >> senator come i speak to the department of justice all the time about how we enforce immigration laws. i do no apprehension numbers are down this year in every sector including arizona, including taxes and they may fear that is a good thing and i think it is a good thing as a result of different efforts including law enforcement efforts and resources on the southern border. with the help we've received from essential american government and the government from mexico. in fact, apprehension numbers are down. >> why. >> wedding to attend

so i want to get at the source and that's what we're doing. >> well, secretary chertoff said it dropped nearly 70%. others have said high numbers, even secretary napolitano has bragged on the program. senator flake on the border, his predecessor, senator kyle thought this is one of the most effective things that has ever been done on the border. and you allowed it to stop. i guess you could blame secretary -- attorney general holder, but if you haven't complained about it, i don't see how you can blame him. i'm sorry. senator, you've arrived, thank you. i'll yield to you. and maybe the secretary could respond if he would like to. i don't mean to cut you off. >> my point is this senator we work with the department of justice all the time on the most effective and efficient way to enforce our immigration laws. what we determine to do last summer was to go after the smugglers. everybody who crosses is paying the smugglers thousands of dollars per person to do this. they don't freelance. and so we determined to go after the coyotes, go after the smugglers and i think that made a difference,

and then-assistant attorney general michael chertoff wrote a letter praising his "extremely valuable." but in the end, michael blutrich was sentenced to 16 years in prison, far more time than any of the mobsters he helped put away. when you heard the sentence... >> blutrich: i almost passed out. ( laughs ) i almost passed out. >> cooper: you know, you helped steal millions of dollars from an awful lot of people, from innocent people. 16 years in jail doesn't sound like a huge amount for the crime. >> blutrich: i couldn't disagree more. >> cooper: do you think you should have done any prison time? >> blutrich: i would have lived comfortably with zero to a year. >> hunt: arrogance. arrogance. i think he thought that the cooperation against the mob was so significant and so powerful that it would essentially dispense him from any culpability or punishment in florida. >> cooper: former prosecutor judy hunt says blutrich could have fared as badly as his co- conspirator sholam weiss, who was sentenced to prison for a record 845 years. but former prosecutor art leach sees it differently. yo

chertoff's client which was rapid scan in between l3 which was mrs. daschle half a billion dollars worth of contracts that split equally. the rapid scan could not he changed so that it wouldn't violate people's privacy and that equipment effort ring installed was pulled out. so we have been through that three-ring circus. now that this report focuses on the deployment of some of that equipment for example the advanced imaging detection which is millimeterwave where you put your hands up and we have problems with maintaining the equipment operating the equipment, auditing the performance of the equipment all outlined by these witnesses. the gentleman from california is recognized. >> thank you mr. chairman. let me begin with recognizing the enormity of the responsibilities you have an assuming the many successes but i want to talk about the perimeter given them from the bay area and we have had a lot of news coverage on that case and other cases. mr. roth you mentioned in her opening comments that complacency is a huge problem and human error is too co

chertoff: the first amendment to the u.s.onstitution states that congress shall make no law respecting an establishment to -- of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. they do not signal the end but rather the beginning of a spirited debate over the proper relationship between religion and the american state. in the early years of the united states, some interpreted the first amendment to mean that congress could not establish an official religion. but cities and states could. by contrast, thomas jefferson described the first amendment as a wall of separation between church and state. in everson versus the board of education, the supreme court urged that the wall must be high and impregnable. in lemmon against kurtzman, the court recognized some relations between church and government relations is inevitable. arguing that the separation is a blurred, indistinct, and variable barrier depending on all the circumstances of a particular relationship. the first president, george washington, articulated an additional ap

of the workstation although that certainly has some hurdles, some difficulty but if it secretary chertoff showed us there some high points, the revolving door of people coming and going from the dhs is a symptom of a problem, it's not the problem. i think if you look at craig fugate, the current administrator for fema you with a there are some very good things that happen. so notwithstanding the challenges that i think are well articulated, be careful. i think with some of the leadership we have and with some of the things coming in this new generation i have four kids the oldest one is an air force pilot the bible the right now the war is not over. with some really sharp people coming up through the ranks. with some experience we've learned from making mistakes and we have some experience we bring to the forefront. my secret service friends i came out back friends come a long ago a measure that would say they were damaged so much when abroad the 20th agency friends together. it was a challenge. no question about it. but look that's why we do things like this and say it's going to take co

they're joined by "washington post" columnist michael gerson and meryl chertoff from the aspen institute. it is from the philadelphia. it is 50 minutes. >> good afternoon. the first amendment to the united states constitution states that congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. these words don't signal the end but rather the beginning of the spirited debate about the proper relationship between religion and the american state. in the early years of the united states some interpreted the first amendment to mean that congress couldn't establish an official religion but cities and states could. by contrast thomas jefferson described the first amendment as a erecting a wall of separation between church and state. in anderson versus the board of education the supreme court quoted jefferson's words urging this wall must be high and impregnable. lemmon against kirkman however the court recognized that some relationship between government and religious organizations is inevitable adding that the line of separation far from being

chertoff's client which was rapid scan and between l-3, which was ms. daschle, half a billion dollars worth of contracts split evenly. they ended up, the rapid scan could not be changed so that it wouldn't violate people's privacy and those -- that equipment after being installed was pulled out. so we've been through that three-ring circus. now that this report focuses on the deployment of some of that equipment, for example the advanced imaging detection which is millimeter wave where you put your hands up, and we have problems with maintaining the equipment, operating the equipment, auditing the performance of the equipment all outlined by these witnesses. mr. desauliner, the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. desauliner: thank you, mr. chairman. let me begin by -- the opening comments, recognizing the enorm out of the responsibilities that you have and assuming that there have been many successes. but mr. roth, i want to talk about really two subject areas that mr. ron, part of the second part is the perimeter given i'm from the bay area an

joining us now from washington, former director of the cia and the nsa, and now principal at the chertoffod to have you both. >> general no at good weekt a good week in our battle against isis. what's gone wrong? >> i think all along folks like me have understood we have the broad outlines of a strategy in iraq, not syria, but a strategy in iraq. but it's been underresourced and overregulated. it's based upon limitations probably for policy or political reasons on the american role. >> what limitations? >> well number one, joe, we have a ceiling on the number of troops. and it's kind of been directed do as much as you can within these numbers. and then within the numbers how we use the troops, they're not allowed to go forward they're not rent with the iraqi army below the brigade level. it's hard to call in air strikes when you don't have a tactical american party forward in the front line of troops. >> what do we need to do to turn it around? >> lots of things. end some of the limitations. frankly, embrace a bit horrific. "washington post" i think had it right at the very end of their e