secretary chertoff, thank you. please promise to come back and help us understand what happens at the summit. appreciate it. >>> so another war to keep your eye on is the escalating non-trade war with china because we're told it's not a trade war. however, the u.s. government just followed through on president trump's threat, $200 billion more in tariffs against china. so now what happens after this announcement today? the price of goods are going to be affected. like what? air conditioners, fruits and vegetables, rain jackets, random but real. u.s. companies say they're getting slammed. tesla just announced it's going to raise prices on cars in china. what will be the response? you know what happened with harley-davidson saying they may have to move production outside. trump attacks the most american of all companies. have we officially hit trade war territory? you decide. up next, a great debate. the president's pick for the supreme court, brett kavanaugh, and the fate of the kids on the border in our sights with

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michael chertoff is the author of the new book "exploding data." out today. hoep homeland security secretary, under george w. bush, co-founder of the chertoff group. good to have you here, congratulations on the look. can i get your take on the nato piece? it's one thing to ramp up on the military side of things but only takes a few bad apples on the rush side to attack us thu a cyber a -- russian angle to attack us. >> nato has begun to focus on cyber, even when i was in office in 2007 the attack on estonia coming from russia, in 2008 georgia. they are developing a center of excellence, putting together a strategy, and they recognize this is now going to be very much a part of our national defense. >> dana: you think that is -- but nato should address that absolutely. there's no question that at least for the russians and the chinese they viewed the cyber domain as part of the tool box for waging war. we have to be able to meet them on the same terms. >> dana: we would consider an attack on one as an attack on all? >> if it rose to the level of a warfare. no

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i read for therapy so this weekend i read the new book from michael chertoff and it is very good and i also read romance for spy thrillers and as you can see if you look at my kindle i read everything i read an average of a book every day or every other day. >> the book i'm currently reading today is that you learn a lot about the iran nuclear crisis several years ago because you hear a lot about the egyptian and the world as it is in james clapper and of course i have to read trumps america. james patterson is one of my favorite authors and then i finished bill clinton's book the day it came out. so i read everything even including light romance. teddy? >> so in the >> this practice is called changing cartoon policy about the ways not just like filing lawsuits are pushing for policy reform is a hard edge advocacy techniques that how do you change minds? it takes just as much strategy and thought to change social norms as it does the other things and to give a flavor i will share some social media tactics how they think of changing hearts and minds and i can think of no one better be

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former homeland security chief michael chertoff will be with me live in a couple of minutes. >>> over on capitol hill, the storm is still coming down. democrats want hearings. republicans are cringing. leadership now trying to take some cover under the president's words. will it really work? we're talking with two folks from different sides of the aisle. both upset with the president. one, a member of the intelligence committee, eric swalwell, and the other, christine todd whitman. outside the beltway, we're asking donald trump voters what they think in kenosha county, wisconsin, a place the president turned red two years ago. we're on the beat in the heartland. >> i know there's a lot of backlash going on now, especially when he said, well, i said i did and i didn't. >> reporter: a lot of people weren't happy. >> yeah, yeah. i'm totally in support of him. >> glad to be back with you after the overseas trip. glad our team is set up and ready to go from across the country this morning. i want to start with nbc's kristen welker over at the white house. you talked with one senior adminis

the russians, as you know, secretary chertoff have been pushing this idea for the last few years.s. a lot of americans resist the idea that russians and chinese would write the rules for everybody. what do you think? >> first of of all, i do think we need to have some global rules, a kind of -- what microsoft has described as a geneva convention in cyberspace. we need to reinforce the idea that the fact we're operating in cyberspace does not mean you can attack civilians or undermine civil institutions. on the other hand, the question is who administers this? the russians and the chinese often want to have it be the u.n. because they believe they can dominate that process. i'm afraid that would take us down a road where there would be a lot of censorship. i know they view it as ideas they don't like to hear. i think most western states want a multi-stake model where you get not just governments but civil society and even technical people involved in governing in kind of an incremental way. >> interesting waets going on there. you look at prime minister erdogan and trump walking to

that work continues, but i will say that the work of my two pred access sr.s, tom ridge and michael chertoff, you know, laid the foundation. we made progress, a lot of progress when i was secretary. my successor, jeh johnson, made progress. i can't report on it now. it's hard to tell. >> host: do you know kirsten nielsen at all? >> guest: i have not met her, no. >> host: what were your successes when you were there? >> guest: two that i will mention. one is tsa precheck which anyone who flies a lot will appreciate, and the other is daca. 700,000 young people brought to this country as children, the average age of 6, grew up here, know only this country as home, we were able to create a program where they could remain in the country, not be fearful of being picked up for immigration enforcement and get a work permit. >> host: what was your expertise coming in? you had been governor of arizona. >> guest: so i had a lot of expertise with the border. i had expertise with immigration, immigration enforcement. i had expertise with disaster response and relations with fema because the fema relation

chertoff is currently executive chairman and co-founder of the security consulting firm the chertoff rolling out the red carpet? >> we are actually surveilling ourselves. we're doing a lot of the collection that we used to imagine would be the government as individuals. we go around, we take selfies, we photograph each other, we upload things to the internet. other things are being collected on us, for example, video cameras, locational data on our cell phone, and all of this winds up in what they call the cloud, which is the servers which maintain all of this data. and so, the person who operates the server can crawl across these various uploads and construct a very accurate picture of everything we do every day, and that is why we have actually become little brother in relation to big brother. >> you argue that the privacy ship has essentially already sailed and that it's really autonomy we should worry about. explain that concept. >> privacy means to most of us keeping things hidden, behind closed doors, or a private conversation. and what i've seen over the last several years is

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michael chertoff co-authored a title, the west still isn't prepared to stop russia meddling in our electionse 28, 538 days after the assessment by the u.s. intelligence community that russia interfered in 2016, president trump tweeted russia continues to say they had nothing to do with meddling in our election. >> cnn intelligence analyst bob baer is with us as well as michael moore gentleman, thank you so much. after all of that let's listen to what roger stone said yesterday. >> i think it is still unproven. there is an enormous am of forensic evidence that points to a conclusion based on the download time that there was no hack. >> michael. why is it so hard after all of what we just saw for anyone to act knowledge that russia interfered? >> well, i think they've taken a burly political tack as opposed to looking at it from proof from a legal sense. let me tell you, bob mueller handled this case like master falvey storyteller. we went through the character stage the plea agreements, cooperation things, many people high up in the trump campaign, now i think you will see indictments further

. >> and to your point, molly, let's listen to the former dhs secretary michael chertoff under the bushistration talking about this issue last night. >> when i've done this at dhs, these things taken a enormous amount of preparation. you have to decide how you'll track people. >> if you care about who you're separating and what happens to them. >> correct. and if you realize you have to bring them back together. >> so david gergen, where was that prep this time? >> well clearly they didn't have the plans together. i do think they deserve credit for knowing where some of these children are. >> catch and release won't be sustainable under this president. what is interesting to me is that there are now talks going under way with mexico and central america about placing american asylum checkpoints in mexico, not in the united states. in other words to process people there. human rights organizations are very fearful of that kind of solution but it is being quietly discussed. >> that's interesting, david gergen, molly, good to have you both. thank you. >> the president preparing another big

rasmussen the former prime minister of denmark and former secretary again of nato and michaelyichael chertoff who was previously a secretary of state. we'll hear today from two of the commission's members, ambassador ilene donohue former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. human rights council and current executive director of the global digital incubator at stanford, university. long time friend of the atlantic council, natalie juresko who is also distinguished fellow with our eurasia center. let me also take this opportunity to recognize and welcome back to the council our keynote speakers, senator mark warner from the commonwealth of virginia. and senator marco rubio from florida. we always love it when we have bipartisan showing from congress, from the senate on an issue of this importance. so thank you for your leadership, and for bringing your valuable perspectives. i also would like to thank senator amy clo klobuchar from joining us earlier. i want to thank those from italy, sweden, uk, canada, european parliament and poland, ukraine, the ambassador from latvia, czech republic, uk, minister fr

reading everything, some people go to psychiatrists, i read for therapy this weekend i read michael chertoff'sew book on privacy which is very good and is guiding me on some legislation to get introduced but i also read romance, spy thrillers, i want to know newt gingrich's latest book, as you can see if you look at my, i actually have to bring like a lot, i read everything, and average of every other day. >> what you have on the kindle. >> the book i'm reading today, it's a good, you learn a lot about the iran nuclear crisis several years ago reading one of his thrillers and this teaches you a lot about some egyptian, he talks. i've got jenny rhodes, the world as it is, and of course i have to read a book about transamerica but i have another books. i read james patterson, one of my favorite authors, stuartwood, bill clinton's book the day came out. i finish the other book , so i'll read everythingincluding a light romance to escape the world . >> he wants to know what you're reading. send us your summer reading list via twitter tv or instagram bookótv or posted to our facebook page, facebook

former homeland security secretary michael chertoff co-authored an op ed titled "the west still isn't prepared to stop russia meddling in our elections." the president isn't prepared to accept his own government's findings as truth. on june 28th, 538 days after the assessment by the u.s. intelligence community that russia interfered in 2016, president trump tweeted, "russia continues to say they had nothing to do with meddling in our election." that's our starting point for this conversation. let's bring in cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hertling and ara aratunyan, with the international crisis group and author of "the putin mist yeelts: inside russia's power cult. welcome to both of you. >> good morning, victor. >> general, let me start with you and the president framing his upcoming conversation on meddling with vladimir putin as he will firmly ask. should the president not be beyond the asking phase of this specific element? >> he should be, victor, and he should also stop using the term meddling and fake news, because it's contributing to the types of attacks we're s

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we see some folks coming out strong, but michael chertoff yesterday, former secretary under bush, soft pedaling. it is not just simply trump. but then there is something else, the second point that i came up with as i was listening to this, donald trump had to say what said in order to protect his base. this is what i mean. donald trump looked weak to whom? he looked weak to us. he betrayed the country to us. but he can't look weak to those folks who will stand by him for whatever reason. >> this morning he looked like he was getting tossed around. >> so he had to come out and say to them, look, i should have said "wouldn't." but i slip ped up and said "would." and i think they might buy it. >> listen to marco rubio and how he responded. >> i'm just glad he clarified it. i can't read his intentions or what he meant to say at the time. suffice to say for me as a policymak policymaker, what matters is what we do moving forward. >> he says he clarified it, but let's be real here. you would have had to have been wearing a blind fold and had ear plugs in your ears in order to believe that w

and even though bush built facilities -- i had chertoff on the other night talking about it.y knew they'd be over capacity. they knew it was too harsh. they knew it was a message they didn't want to send to the world. donald trump took a different tack. he wanted the harshness. he didn't have the administration prepared for it, and we got a catastrophe. >> chris, i don't think donald trump decided and made a decision to do this. i think the decision was made lower level. >> john kelly was talking about it a year ago as his understanding with the president. >> he signed the order -- do you agree that the president signed the order to end the policy that had been in existence before? >> no, i do not. are you talking about the executive order? >> okay. >> are you talking about the executive order? >> well, yes, his order saying that -- right. he said they should not separate the families. >> he didn't say that. you know what it says on the top of that piece of paper? this executive order is affo affording congress a chance to stop the separation of families. he said he was stopp

and chertoff and norquist concluded with this thought: it is not practical to expect state and local election administrators in, say, rural missouri or small town maine, my state of delaware or in my colleague's state of iowa to go toe to toe with the premier government-backed cyber mercenaries of russia or china or north korea. just as federal agencies prudently provide support for state law enforcement in dealing with terrorism, federal officials should give guidance and support with the election cybersecurity threat. my home state of delaware is one of five with no paper trail for our elections systems and our elections systems are air gapped. i received a letter from our official that makes clear that with the $3 million already distributed through the money made available last year, they will begin to make a down payment on replacing our current antiquated election machinery with those that will have a verifiable paper trail. i have many more examples i could cite, but i will be brief because i have a colleague who's waited long for his opportunity to speak. all states have now

>> coming up, we've got michael chertoff former homeland security secretary and a lot to talk about whenmes to data and the way the rules of the road and what companies -- thousand they need to react, all that needs to change in the digitization all of that coming up on "squawk alley. running a small business is demanding. and that's why small business owners need more. like internet that's up to the challenge. the gig-speed network from comcast business gives you more. with speeds up to 20 times faster than the average. that means powering more devices, more video conferencing, and more downloads in seconds, not minutes. get fast internet and add phone and tv for only $34.90 more per month. comcast is building america's largest gig-speed network to give small businesses more. call 1-800-501-6000 today. >>> dow up 150 let's go to chicago with rick santelli rick >> good morning. i would like to welcome my guest, peter bookfar thanks for joining me. >> good morning, rick. >> whether it was the wage number on friday's jobs report, the participation rate moving higher, drawing more back into

rasmussen the former prime minister of denmark and former secretary again of nato and michaichael chertoff who wa previously a secretary of state. we'll hear today from two of the commission's members, ambassador ilene donohue former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. human rights council and current executive director of the global digital incubator at stanford, university. long time friend of the atlantic council, natalie juresko who is also distinguished fellow with our eurasia center. let me also take this opportunity to recognize and welcome back to the council our keynote speakers, senator mark warner from the commonwealth of virginia. and senator marco rubio from florida. we always love it when we have bipartisan showing from congress, from the senate on an issue of this importance. so thank you for your leadership, and for bringing your valuable perspectives. i also would like to thank senator amy clo klobuchar from joining us earlier. i want to thank those from italy, sweden, uk, canada, european parliament and poland, ukraine, the ambassador from latvia, czech republic, uk, minister fro