this woman, 67-year-old cheryl hepner, the potty-mouth grandmother of miglino's 3-year-old son. >> youter: you had no idea that cheryl hepner was going to come out. >> i don't talk to her. there's no reason to talk to her. i didn't know why she was stepping out. i didn't know why. i thought she was going to keep yelling at me. >> reporter: which is why he hit the record button in the first place. he tells "nightline" in an exclusive interview, heppner was holding miglino's bag and pillow. from behind it, she pulled a gun. >> she shoots, my reaction, as i came around. grabbed the gun. >> reporter: wow. >> grabbed this way. pushed her all the way back to the grass and was on top of her. and i was trying to take the gun away from her. >> reporter: miglino says he swats the gun away, grabs it and bolts. you can hear him wheezing, as he races back to his car. >> what's your emergency? >> she shot me. >> reporter: but heppner wasn't through yet. >> what's your emergency? >> someone just shot at me. >> reporter: police say lying, bold-face to a 911 dispatcher. >> did he pull the gun on you? o