right, cheryl hicks? yes. and the next book was narrative of jose hudson which is an autobiography of a black communist. and i was advised not to do that book because he was a communist, because he was a black southerner and because he was still alive. but i loved it. i still love it. the third book was a history of the united states at the turn of the 20th century. so that is not just black history, but it turns out that -- it turns out that a lot of things that happened to black people are useful for understanding larger societies or larger histories. and, you know, for the longest time when i was advising dissertations, i would say to my graduate students like cheryl -- who didn't listen to me either -- i would say, you know, take a topic that has that's not just a black topic, but in which black people play a large part. and then you can claim that you have mastered this big thing. and you have also read a lot about black people. i don't think anybody took that advice. [laughter] black people are just too