and cheryl michelle, the president of the open council has been somewhere in between them. i would say closer to bureau. so yes, we have had divisions at the levels of member states and also at the level of the top you leadership. and i would say there have been also divisions within each member of state because ultimately this is because we, europe, ends are divided about these issues. then i want to go to some of some of those national level dynamics and just a minute. but she's on, you mentioned, we've been talking a lot here about leadership and you mentioned that trip that underlying made to israel very, very quickly off the october 7th and the off to month if there's a tax and there's been speculation about whether that was in, in her capacity is as a german politicians or as an e lead. and obviously germany is taking a very, very strong stance on this. and they've been very pro israel, there's obviously a huge amount of history there as well. can you explain that a little for us? yeah, i mean, it is important say the irs have underlying is a german politicians use th

michelle obama, obesity and the garden. jill biden, i think of education. what would be cheryl hines' as first lady passion project? >> i have always been passionate about public schools. so i have done a lot of work in different schools around the country. going in and activating the community to get involved in that school. we have gone -- we started in compton. we did several schools there. we went to detroit and nashville and las vegas. and it's very inspiring to me because, first of all, we need to be doing better for our kids and for the teachers. but just to see the community coming together and actually the to help, they want to do something. and a lot of times, they don't have the resources. but then if you organize enough people, it's really surprising and inspiring how many parents come out, even the teachers would come out and paint their classrooms and clean the school and plant flowers and get other businesses to partner with them to donate computers and things that the the school really needs. there are some really underserved schools out there. i don't think it's fair to our kids. a>> how do your po