i can't -- 7 hours, cheryl mills in the testimony, that's brutal.y: you said would you like 7 hours are cheryl mills. >> i said that. i had a 4-hour conversation, like an argument. that's painful. if i knew we were going to argue for four hours i wouldn't have blown my best material in the first hour. anything with multiple hours hurts me. kennedy: you needed david kendall interrupting her. >> the correct answer is i'm somewhere irand you are right. >> i'm sorry or you are right came out of that. >> i figure you women can fake an orgasm but you can't fake a good mood. >> earlier in the show i asked which country was highest in job satisfaction. the answer is india. they asked people in 15 countries they feel positive at work. italy, mexico, then chile and japan last with 44%. so people normally say india is a dump. this shows the people working are quite happy. >> it depend on how you look at it. it's not a rich country. but i love my life. i work from home, i'm my own boss, and i love my employer. i love being paid to be here. >> i'm not quite sure

cheryl mills is an attorney. she walked in there with 7 attorney.our from the justice and state department taxpayer paid for, and three personal attorneys. there were some areas she had client privilege over because she is hillary clinton's lawyer on those issues. why is she so lawyered up. >> the state department has an interest in the outcome of the case, the state department has an interest in the outcome of the case. but she was mrs. clinton's lawyer while she was secretary of state. she cannot be compelled to reveal what mrs. clinton said to her or what she said to mrs. clinton. i don't know if this is a facade or a real attorney-client relationship. martha: bryan pagliano set up the server and he reached an immunity deal. catherine herridge says his testimony is quote devastating. you can see why her attorney is in this stage of the game in the deposition would be frequently telling her no, do not answer that. do not answer that. >> this is not the criminal case. this is one of the 39 freedom of information act cases filed against the state de

what does the cheryl mills deposition tell you about any knowledge or complicity on the part of clinton's inner circle, at least with respect to miss mills in terms of clinton'sed a man i on -- and mansy on using that personal server. reporter: based on the transcript which is 300 pages in length. and based on the fact that cheryl mills had 7 attorneys with her. every single question that related to the installation of the server, and its management by the clinton i.t. specialist bryan pagliano who since has an immunity deal with the justice department as part of the f.b.i. criminal investigation, they sought under every circumstance to block any information that related to it setup and what efforts if any were made to retain the record and shield them from foia. judge napolitano: just so the folks watching know about this. the deposition was taken in one of the many freedom of information act cases which ordinary folks filed against the state department, and cheryl mills per unit to the instructions of her -- pursuant to the instructions of her lawyers refused to answer the most importan

through a colleague, cheryl mills chimes into the e-mail chain asking the state department to stall in its response to abc news for 24 hours. no real qualifications for fernando were ever sent. instead, the next day, august 17th, raj fernando suddenly resigns. >> happy friday. >> at the state department today, answers on why were hard to come by. >> if he was at all qualified, why did he resign so suddenly after abc news started asking questions? >> you'd have to ask him. >> reporter: drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >>> the clinton campaign is now responding to the donor controversy. our own chris frates joining us live from washington with what her camp has to say about this. chris, what are you learning today? >> i can tell you clinton press secretary put out a statement saying this was an unpaid volunteer advisory board and one of several foreign policy focused organizations that he was involved with. as the state department itself has said, the isab or international security advisory board charter calls for a diverse set of experiences for its members. that's all there is to it. so a p

the true answer simply is that cheryl mills added him, the state department writes. dig up a short paragraph about his distinguished career and a sentence about our selection and approval process? the next day, a senior adviser e-mails, we must protect the secretary's name as well as the integrity of the board. through a colleague, cheryl mills chimes in to the e-mail chain asking the state department to stall in its response to abc news for 24 hours. no real qualifications for fernando were ever sent. instead, the next day, august 17th, raj fernando suddenly re-signs. at the state department today, answers on why were hard to come by. >> if he was at all qualified, why did he re-sign so suddenly after abc news started asking questions? >> you would have to ask him. >> drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >>> donald trump is already seizing on this issue and using it at his rallies. here is what he said about it yesterday. >> they all looked and said, where did this guy come from? he made a contribution of $250,000 and all of the sudden, he is on this very important and vital

why he was even on the board, internal e-mail from a staffer says the true answer is simply that cheryl millslls being clinton's long time aide and chief of staff, and the staffer goes on to say fernando was added at their insistence after a flurry of e-mails, an associate of cheryl mills says we need to hold off responding until at least tomorrow afternoon. 24 hours later, raj fernando suddenly resigned. we left messages with his office, asked the clinton campaign about this, and also asked the state department for more information on how a chicago stockbroker, clinton donor was placed on the board, why he suddenly resigned. state department referred us to fernando himself who hasn't called us back, john. >> the time line, once again abc news asked about his qualification, cheryl mills asked the state department to stall 24 hours, then the guy suddenly resigns. that time line again lines up with the scenario where he was, i don't know, pushed out to keep quiet. was there any other possible reason? >> the only reason we see is in his resignation letter to hillary clinton that literally comes

cheryl mills should just tell us what happened. get the documents out there. begin setting a new standard. i think that's the way she's going to rebuild what she needs to do not only to win, but to govern. >> mayor, should she admit it? should she directly admit it and say yes, i did this. it's like ambassadors -- should she? >> i think the one thing that is not in dispute, the gentleman didn't appoint himself. there was a process. and to get on one of these advisory boards, as david gergen said, you have to go through a security clearance process, you have to fill out a lot of documents and information. i'm on one. at homeland security. it is not easy. it is not simple. but there are facts, documents, materials. tell the story. just get it out. whatever it is. tell the story. >> but when you fill out the documents -- i've done the same thing. your date of birth, your social security number, they check if you have a criminal record. it doesn't check when they do the background checks. they don't check your qualifications for those jobs. i think what's troublin

after a lawsuit brought by citizens united, reveals the role of hillary clinton's chief of staff, cheryl mills in appointing the big donor. in this e-mail, a senior state official, uses the shorthand "s," a common reference to secretary clinton. >> the true answer is simply that "s" staff, cheryl mills, added him. raj was not on the list sent to "s." he was added at their insistence. the e-mails also show that when abc began asking questions in 2011 about the appointment of the donor, mills asked that the press officer stall for 24 hours. the very next day, rajiv fernando submitted his resignation from the sensitive government board. today, donald trump attacked hillary clinton on this report. >> they all looked, where did this guy come from? >> reporter: the clinton campaign declined to comment on our story. as for fernando, he has continued to raise big money for the clinton campaign and give millions to the clinton foundation. in fact, he will be one of her superdelegates at next month's convention. >> brian, thank you. >>> next tonight to new details emerging in the sexual assault case tha

through a colleague, cheryl mills chimes into the e-mail chain asking the state department to stall in abc news for 24 hours. no real qualifications for fernando were ever sent. instead, the next day, august 17th, raj fernando suddenly resigns. >> happy friday. >> at the state department today, answers on why were hard to come by. >> if he was at all qualified, why did he resign so suddenly after abc news started asking questions? >> i mean, you'd have to ask him. >> reporter: drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >>> the clinton campaign is now responding to drew griffin's reporting saying this was an unpaid volunteer advisory board and one of several foreign policy focused organizations that he was involved with as the state department itself has said, the isab charter called for a diverse set of experiences for its members. that's all there is to it. i want to bring in our panel again to get your thoughts. bernard, naturally i'll start with you to get your thoughts. the clinton camp are seemingly downplaying this. at the same time, this could feed into the perception that hillary clinton was

cheryl mills. saying that little thought went into it. >> reporter: lawyers for cheryl mills who was the chief of state object bed in the five hour deposition and brought questions about p clinton's it specialist seen in the video on capitol hill he took the fifth in congressional testimony. he struck an immunity deal last year. and lawyers for judicial watch who brought the lawsuit, pressed mills on whether pagdia nowas a state department. o or private. o. >> and they may go back being to the court to force complete answers. >> miss mills makes various claims of legal representation with mrs. clinton and also in the the government role as chief of staff. they are murky and not specific on the timing or the relationship that existed. that has to to be cleared up. we may have to go to court to get those questions answered. >> reporter: the state department told mrs. clinton she was not doing enough to preserve the government e-mails. yet she told reporters that the first e-mails that she was meeting

sandra: let me give you what cheryl mills went on record of intent. of hillary clinton email server was absolutely not an attempt to evade the freedom of information act. that is under oath, first time we're hearing sworn testimony. >> that is defied by email from huma abedin which mrs. clinton was offer ad blackberry when the server went down. not only do we have the 7th floor stuff where the blackberry doesn't work, but sometimes the server in chappaqua went down so the blackberry didn't work anywhere. the i.t. people, that would be bryan pagliano, madam secretary said, here is one they will work. harris: this is a lot of devices. huma sends an email to pagliano and other i.t. people saying we can't have that because, whatever she says on that would be subject to the freedom of information act. harris: interesting. the other thing is too with pagliano, with all these different devices, now we know how they were able to trace emails between her and bryan pagliano because they weren't on her server because they got sent to him. >> there were funny thi

cheryl mills, her former chief of staff at the state department and a member of the clintons inner circle. she said her advisory didn't really think that hard about problems the e-mail server could cause. said it was not about avoiding public records laws. clint gave interviews in which she repeated her campaigns defense that she regrets doing what she did and she is moving forward and the voters don't seem to care. has it now moved around again, we will get the fbi round later. if she still under siege? i do like the fact that they and cooperate with the investigation. they are still being fuzzy about what they are sorry for. they are cavalier about the freedom of information act. it is a matter of pure politics. , they are in pretty good shape. with trump university, there are a lot of distractions. if the fbi doesn't charge her and i still don't know quite what they would charge her with it would take a lot for republicans to reignite this. lots of damage has been done as a matter of daily trouble for her i think they may have a chance to get through this. john: there's a real lesson h

we'll bring you the details from the testimony of cheryl mills and one of the guys inside the room is going to tell us how it all went down. >> i fully complied with every rule they was governed by. [beekeeper] from bees to business expenses, i'm in charge of it all. so i've been snapping photos of my receipts and keeping track of them in quickbooks. now i'm on top of my expenses, and my bees. best 68,000 employees ever. that's how we own it. by switching to xfinity x1. rio olympic games show me gymnastics. x1 lets you search by sport, watch nbc's highlights and catch every live event on your tv with nbc sports live extra. i'm getting ready. are you? x1 will change the way you experience nbcuniversal's coverage of the rio olympic games. call or go online today to switch to x1. . deirdre: there are new developments in hillary clinton's e-mail investigation, during a five-hour deposition last week, former top aide cheryl mills testified that clinton's personal e-mails to people outside the state department were not available for requests under the freedom of information act. according t

you have cheryl mills who gives a deposition a week ago and cheryl mills, what, 200 times with seven lawyers objecting during the five hour deposition. and then not recalling the rest of the time. it seems like there are too many questions she cannot answer without putting herself in legal jeopardy. do you agree -- >> the sad thing is there are so many americans who have access to everything you just said and it doesn't matter to them. it doesn't matter that the person that they support is a liar. it doesn't matter she said what difference does it make in benghazi. would not send help when they pleaded for help. is this the kind of person that we really want to have? we have better choices than this. are we going to do this to our children and grandchildren? and then you look at the e-mail can dal. with all the experience when she talked about her great experience. first lady for eight years. senator for eight years. secretary of state. you don't have enough judgment not to put vital information into a nonsecure place and then try to blame everybody else for it. no, they did not do i

on top of that clinton's former chief of staff, cheryl mills, and her legal team have blocked questionsano and his setup of the clinton server in her deposition in the case. when people don't the chain won't answer questions it increases the likelihood that clinton will be called in addition four of the central players in the the fbi investigation are represented by the same attorney, from her former chief of staff to the policy advisedder and the aide who decided the e-mails were personal and destroyed and not turned to over state depth. the former u.s. attorney says the legal maneuver presents challenges for the investigators. >> each of those potential targets or subjects of the investigation get to share information across that same attorney, and get their story to sync up and understand what other people now. >> the justice department has not objected to this common defense strategy in the case, stuart. >> thank you very much. so, did she or didn't she? break any state department rules over using that permanent e-mail account. -- personal e-mail account. >> you don't accept the inc

a week ago about cheryl mills, what, 200 times with 7 lawyers objecting during the 5-hour deposition then not recalling the rest of the time. it seems like there are too many questions she cannot answer without putting herself in legal jeopardy. do you agree -- >> well, the sad -- no, the sad thing is that there are so many americans who have access to everything that you just said and it doesn't matter to them. it doesn't matter that the person that they support is a perpetual liar. it doesn't matter that she said what difference does it make in benghazi? would not send help when they pleaded for help. you know, is this the kind of person that we really want to have? we've had better choices than this, and are we going to do this to our children and our grandchildren? and then you look at the e-mail scandal. you know, with all the experience, when she talks about her great experience, first lady for eight years, senator for eight years, secretary of state. you don't have enough judgment not to put vital information into a nonsecure place and then you sit around, you try to blame eve

cheryl mills, mrs. clinton's chief of staff testified a fe weeks ago and claimed attorney-client privilege for mrs. clinton over her conversations with bryan pagliano so i would think the judge is getting frustrated after seeing all this. >> you have a witness on the stand in the civil deposition. cheryl mills who has been with hillary for years and year. some people call her the pitbull. she's claiming not only does she have attorney client with hillary, but she has attorney client with briyan pagliano. what did pagliano, the guy who set up the server, give the department of justice that made it worthwhile for them to issue an immunity for this transactional use. >> we don't know. we don't mow how broad the immunity is, whether there's any immunity at all. the judge may constrain his ability to assert the fifth, but each we needs to be answered. and if he wanteds to assert his fifth amendment right, that's his choice if the court lets him, but we can draw conclusions against him and against the state d

they are representing cheryl mills, policy adviser jake sullivan, gatekeeper felipe reines and heather sam nullson who decided which e-mails were personal and which were government business. former u.s. attorneys say the legal maneuvers can create legal challenges for investigators. >> all you're trying to do is seek the truth and when someone is sharing a lawyer you worry about that the interview that you just did an hour ago with that attorney has been shared with the next witness and they could fix or reconcile their story to be the same or similar to the previous witness. >> reporter: whitaker's group has also filed a freedom of information act lawsuit to get the details from denis chang, mrs. clinton's deputy chief of protocol. and only a handful of his e-mails were released by the state department and he's considered to be the link or point person between the clinton foundation and the mrs. clinton. >> thank you. >>> another alert to tell you about the cincinnati zoo controversy. the mother of the boy who fell into the gorilla enclosure resulting in the killing will not have char

the true answer is simply that s staff cheryl mills added him. raj was not on the list sent to s.e was added at their insistence. >> i don't know who will be giving money. >> reporter: at her confirmation hearing she vowed donors would not get special treatment. >> it will not be in the atmosphere. >> reporter: it shows when abc began asking questions about the appointment of fernando in 2011, top clinton aide cheryl mills asked the press officer to stall for 24 hours. the very next day fernando submitted his resignation from the prestigious board. the clinton campaign declined to comment on our story and the state department said it's not unusual for the secretary's chief of staff to play a role. as for fernando he has continued to raise big dollars for the clinton campaign and has given more than a million dollars to the clinton foundation, in fact he'll be one of her superdelegates. >> there is another new report about hillary's e-mails on the front page of "the wall street journal" linking them to some potentially sensitive messages about drone strikes oversea. >> that's right

newly released testimony from clinton aide cheryl mills says that little -- that little thought was given to potential issues over the former secretary of state's private e-mail. clinton called in to msnbc and said she never intended to hide her personal e-mail use. >> i e-mailed with hundreds of people. and i e-mailed department officials and there's directly -- directly with my e-mail as other secretaries have done. i certainly never instructed anyone to hide the fact that i was choosing a personal e-mail. that was obvious to hundreds of people, visible to the many people that i was e-mailing. throughout the state department and the rest of the federal government. >> clinton is campaigning in new jersey this morning and then she'll head to boston for a fund-raiser and rally while she'll be joined by jon bon jovi. she'll resume her california campaign tomorrow. >>> over a thousand migrants have died crossing the mediterranean in just the past week. the international organization for migration says the majority of those who died were on barely seaworthy boats which sank in calm seas trave

more context, cheryl millers r mills, mrs. clinton's chief of staff, testified a few weeks ago and she claimed attorney-client privilege for mrs. clinton, that was the privilege, over her conversations with bryan pagliano. sought judge must be getting pretty frustrated after seeing all of this. >> so what you've got is a witness on the stand in the civil deposition, cheryl mills, who's been with hillary for years and years or some people call her the pitbull. she's claim not only does she have attorney-client with hillary but she has attorney-client with bryan pagliano. so it makes sense the judge is getting frustrated with all the dances they're doing. but what did pagliano, the guy who set up the server, give the department of justice that made it worthwhile for them to issue an immunity, whether it's transactional use? >> we don't know. we don't know how broad the immunity is, whether there's any immunity at all. that's why it's important for the testimony to take place. the judge may constrain his ability to assert the fif

the suit covers former chief of staff cheryl mills, advisor jacob sullivan and the i.t. specialist who helped set up clinton's server. pagliano is the same ex-staffer who struck a deal in the ongoing fbi investigation. he's also filed a motion on his own to keep his records under wraps. heather. >> very interesting. lauren green, live for us. thank you, lauren. >>> meantime, former secretary of state and presumptive democratic nominee, hillary clinton, hear what she has to say herself because she will join fox news's bret baier on "special report" at 6:00 eastern. >>> we're going to have quite an election, aren't we? i personally can't wait to debate him. >> well, i probably could think of nobody i'd rather debate. i think beating her in a debate would be one of the easy challenges of my life, that i can say. >> well, it is the general election of the lesser of two evils with donald trump and hillary clinton poised to be the most disliked presidential candidates in decades. so with the gloves coming off, are we about to witness the ugliest race in u.s. history? here to t

cheryl mills. the other only others others on that unsecured server. uma being paid by the state department, the clinton campaign, and bingo, the clinton foundation. look, the federal investigation is still active. the fbi director appointed by barack obama is one of the most ethical people in washington. with a ten-year term irrespective of who's president. but the fbi does not have access to and cannot present to a grand jury. they simply investigate. and make a referral to the department of justice. once the referral is made, justice decides whether to go forward. obama could simply tell loretta lynch his department of justice appointee who serves at his pleasure either to not put it in the grand jury or make a presentation and then not ask for an indictment. in, folks, you'll never know. because if anyone talks about it, they violate grand jury secrecy and they go to jail. now, if loretta lynch were true to her charge, she would have sought an independent prosecutor months ago when her boss went on national television and prejudged a federal crimin

during a five-hour deposition, fox news learned that lawyers for clinton's former chief of staff cheryl mills repeated questions about the i.t. specialist who set up clinton's private e-mail server. he has emerged as a key witness in the fbi's ongoing probe. >> jennifer, thank you. >>> the top senate republican wants marco rubio to keep his job. majority leader mitch mcconnell is joining to push to convince rubio to reverse himself and run for re-election for the florida senate seat. >> all of our candidates are going to be in a good position to run. one of the things that we're working on right now in your old state is trying to direct marco into running again. >> marco will get back in? >> i hope so. we're doing everything we can to enkourn hcourage him to run. >> republicans are afraid to lose his seat to a democrat. rubio said it is unlikely to reconsider his decision not to run. >>> now to the story that got the attention of the nation over the memorial day weekend. there are reports tonight that the parents of the boy who fell into a gorilla enclosure at the cincinnati zoo are getting d

we're talking about cheryl mills. in her testimony she said advisors didn't think very hard about the problems a private e-mail server could cause and this was absolutely not about avoiding public record laws. yesterday evening clinton gave phone interviews to msnbc and cnn in which he defeated her campaign. she said voters don't seem to care very much. my question for you, we talked about this yesterday about the slight shift in terms of how they were doing defense, has this round, we're going to get the fbi, is this round in the rear view mirror or is she still under siege? >> i don't like they are being fuzzy about what he's in trouble for. i will say as a matter of pure politics, they're in pretty good shape. i think they have gotten through this. there's a lot of other distractions. there's not much for people to siege on and if the fbi doesn't charge her, and i still don't know what they will charge her with, it will take a lot for republicans to reunite this. lots of damage has been done. a matter of daily trou

a long-time clinton aide, cheryl mills, said in a deposition last week that after clinton stepped downretary of state, mills discussed the server with a technical aide who helped had set it up. mills' lawyers stopped her from speaking in detail about the work of that technician or whether he was employed by clinton at the time. >>> transportation safety administration taken to task over potential security flaws at u.s. airports. tsa data showings an average of 2500 security breaches a year at airport perimeters and key access points. government accountability office blames the tsa for failing to update security standards for the airports to follow. >>> a symbolic president for the visit today. he returns to elkhart, indiana. you can see him there in 2009 looking a little younger. it was his first trip as the new president. today he's expected to highlight his economic policies that he says have helped the area improve since the recession. new businesses have struggled to take root there, but white house officials say the county is better positioned for the next economic downturn. >> re

its request for clinton records and those of her closest aides, including then chief of staff cheryl millsisor jake sullivan, state department management secretary patrick kennedy, as well a is clinton's i.t. specialist, bryan p pagliano who got the immunity. "as these requests would require the agency to locate, review, redact and arrange for inspection, a vast quantity of material, the agency need not honor them. foia requests are not supposed to be labored over for generations." just within the last few minutes the state department was asked to address this 75-year delay. >> it is a very broad range involving a number of people over a period of four years, and it's not an outlandish estimation, believe it or not. >> not outlandish. >> according to the court filing, the state department lawyers maintain that the rnc's request for records is overly broad and therefore should not have to respond. but they are standing by this term of 75 years to process all those requests. remember, pagliano's e-mail file was missing so they had to go locate it in the first place. >> if there hadn't been a

deal with us evolving e-mail scandal fox news reporting this morning in deposition of her aide cheryl millseveral e-mails which were not searchable, through freedom of information act requests by investigators this would actually be a violation of the foreign affairs and/or federal records acting and emerging problem continues to get worse for hillary clinton, right now she is focusing attention on new jersey, and, by the way, maria, john bon jovi will introduce her at rutgers going with her to boston i am betting you are a button jofi fan don't know how you feel about mrs.: but sure a thumbs-up to bon jovi. >> for sure we will watch the that as he introduces her travels with her, adam shipero. >> untrustworthy numbers through the roof multiculturalism however damage can this do interesting not to participate in ig report that was issued last week, and although it was quite a damning there is no legal outcome it comes to fbi whatever they decide to do with their gave is. >> we will see we may not know about that investigation for a couple months won't know about clinic foundation investigat

clinton has encouraged her aides to be very open and forth right, cheryl mills, who was her chief of staff at the state department came to the deposition with seven lawyers. let me just finish, four representing the justice department and the state department. >> those aren't hers? >> no. and then three herself. >> three is weird because who is paying for three lawyers? you only need one lawyer? that's always been a beef for me. >> so and then the third thing is every time there was a question about the it specialist brian pga who -- pagliano who has cut a deal criminal probe mrs. clinton's email practices there were strenuous objections from her attorney as well as government attorneys. so five hour deposition. there were really not a lot more details about how that server was set up and why. >> i still think the weirdest thing that pagliano has immunity because you only need immunity if they're forcing you to testify, whether it's grand jury or a trial. and not just -- he doesn't have to talk to the justice department. so why does he have immunity? i have always been suspicious tha

the arb, the independent supposedly i want report by the state department and this report says cheryl millsinton's chief of staff is essentially running the show and picking panel members. everybody is coming to her to see if they should interview with arb. it brings in to question about how the post attack was handled on a number of fronts. >> well, i mean, those of us who -- even those of us who don't believe there is much of a scandal here never put too much faith in a review by the agency whose under review. i mean, that's a given. i think it's much more impressive that house intelligence panel came up with the findings that it did. look, the. >> gowdy discounted. >> with its own members discounted. its own members didn't sign on the report. >> they can discount them all they want. but they are not that different from what gowdy's own panel has found. >> there will be a lot of analysis of this over coming days, i'm sure. next, the deadly terror attack. we have the latest out of turkey again, nearly 50 killed. we have an update. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is

congress but that the last e-mail that she sent while she was home to the state department was one to cheryl mills asking whether they should announce that ambassador stevens was dead or wait till the next morning. the other thing when it comes to the hacking of the e-mail server. >> just refresh, trump said that it had been hacked by foreign governments. that's what he said. and her server was easily hacked by foreign governments. and lester hold said how do you know that? >> the thing i don't understand about that, you don't need to physically hack a server or engage in some kind of complicated mechanism in order to get access to secretary clinton's e-mails. we know she traveled with her blackberry connected to an unsecure server that would have been paying a lot of attention to you will a of the visiting dignitaries as we know that they always do. the fact is, if you are using an unencrypted device that doesn't have the proper protection, they can scoop this up far more easily than a hacking mechanism. it's simply naive to believe that russia and china didn't do this and to know that they were

this as we're learning more from clinton's former chief of staff cheryl mills testimony.e admitted that hillary clinton used a personal email account for official business when she was also a united states senator. in response to that revelation the principal technologies at aclu use, tweeted quote, i'm sure many in congress do this but it's a huge cybersecurity problem. i want to go to you first. i mean, this has to be a huge cybersecurity problem. she has been doing it for a long time before even working for the president, so how big of a deal is this? >> i guess the, the investigation widens and broadens which i don't think that part of it is good for anybody. you know, i will tell you this. if i was hillary clinton's lawyer, she hired me, i would be on the loudest podium i could be at, and i would say, listen, it is time to fish or cut bait. either come here tell me i committed a crime, or tell me that i didn't commit a crime. but what you're doing to everyone, to the american people is just wrong. i have a personal feeling about it, not really related to hillary clin

in this case,clinton's former chief of staff cheryl mills, policy advisor jake sullivan, clinton gateline riots as well as heather samuelson who decided which emails to destroy and which emails to share with the state department . they all share the same attorney. >> each of those potential targets were subjects of the investigation get to share information across that same attorney and quite frankly get their story to sync up and understand what other people know of the situation. reporter: whitaker's group has also filed a freedom of information lawsuit to get the emails of dennis chang who was mrs. clinton's deputy chief of protocol, only a handful of his emails were released by the state department. he was considered a point person between the state department and the clinton foundation. on the sunday talk shows, mrs. clinton dismissed the independent findings of the state department's inspector general that her email practices broke the rules and violated the law to keep government records. >> i thought that the report actually made it clear that the practice i used was used by o

lawyers for hillary's aide cheryl mills blocked questions about specialist brian.private server. judge napolitano is here. now, what's the significance? it always goes back to brian. >> well, he is potentially mrs. clinton's nightmare because even given formal imimmunity or process of nonprosecution as long as he doesn't commit perjury. what does that mean? that means he is briefing the fbi on what mrs. clinton said to him and what he said to her or what he did for her and why it was done with respect to the e-mail server. stuart: so he is hillary's vulnerability. >> yeah. now, remember he has been charged. tell the truth, help us with hillary, the charges against you are reduced or they go away. that is standard operating procedure for the justice department. stuart: is that why cheryl mills, her attorneys said you're not answering any questions about this guy. >> yes. because that is the most sensitive area for mrs. clinton. it is also theoreticallyiveness for ms. mills and the other aids because one of the allegations, one of the charges, the indictments could b

clinton was sick. >> how much do you think cheryl mills knows about why this server was put together,hink she knows more than she's willing to say in the sense that we asked questions specifically on that. we were told we couldn't get into it for attorney/client and other reasons. for instance, she talked to bryan pagliano, the clinton i.t. official who supposedly asserted his fifth amendment and he has immunity, we wanted to know what did they talk about, what did she learn? i was doing it as mrs. clinton's attorney, so you can't find out. >> wow. she made herself mrs. clinton's attorney, and she kardashianed you in the way that kardashian was used by o.j. perhaps. you want to find out what and who would be next in your quest? >> we want to find out about this freedom of information act, how it was upended by the clinton e-mail issue. we want to know where those missing e-mails are. mrs. clinton only turned over half the e-mails she took with her. up next is a key state department official who supposedly told folks or was aware of the e-mail system and they didn't want individuals ta

clinton and her long time aide cheryl mills were in fact destroyed, bill.ut the confidante, sidney blumenthal, in all of this, catherine? reporter: blumenthal is a central figure in emails. you recall he testified on he benghazi select committee for seven hours because he was prolific writer of emails and policy advice even though he was banned by the obama white house from officially joining clinton's team at state department. with more than 2100 classified emails and 22 at top secret level, blumenthal told fox news he didn't need security clearance nor did he have one. >> well i was not, i was here friend and i had no security clearance, nor did i seek it, nor did anyone anyone send me anything that was classified. so i had no access to, nor did i send or receive any classified material. reporter: of course the classification issue and what was classified at the time is at the heart of the fbi probe. blumenthal also told fox news he is confident that the fbi director james comey will issue a statement that the bureau found no evidence intent to move class

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i'm cheryl jennings, and today we're talking about california's water shortage and what to do about it. mills college in oakland recently held a international conference on water issues with emerging female leaders from several countries, and i had the great privilege of hosting one of the classes to show them how to use the media and social media to get their messages out to the communities. and the woman who led that conference is with me in the studio right now -- alecia decoudreaux, the president of mills college. and thank you for being here today, doctor. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> that conference was so inspiring, getting to meet all those young women who are so passionate about wanting to do something for the world and this whole water situation. so, what inspired you to hold that conference? how did that come about? >> well, our students inspire me to do just about everything that we do. but mills college joined the women in public service project a number of years ago. you may know that it was started by secretary of state hillary rodham clinton in conjun