cheryl sandberg said it well.king about how the world is looking at this and responding to the fact that some of the groups you put up on the screen that dana and zwruj have talked about have not responded forcefully she says this goes beyond politics. if we can't agree rape is wrong what is happening to our humanity. i think it diminishes and makes it hard to take crediblely the garmento of proceed palestinian activists e ever who argue for two state solution, you can't argue that and expect people to list even if you first can't say release the hostages and two, the actions of hamas and israel on october 7th as greg consistently points it was horrendous was inhumane and at no time there's no moment where you should ever use the word rape and say however. let me say, this is just wrong and it's unfortunate that we can't get to a more reasonable and sensible and long-term conversation because knows who advocate on behalf of the palestinians at least some in our country are doing it some such a horrible counterprod

had hosted with hillary clinton and cheryl sandberg, senator gillibrand and others, in which there waslic testimony witness testimony, the head of the police and is israel talking about witness testimony. and so the president felt compelled to say something about houma's did, the crimes that they committed on israeli women and girls, on october 7th. >> so these remarks are also coming, just after democratic congressman, camilla jamiyah paul faced submission amount a backlash for her response to these sexual has assault by hamas listen to what she told it about. >> is horrific, sexual salt is horrific, i think that it happens in war situations, terrorist organizations like hamas obviously, are using these as tools. however, i think we have to be balanced about bringing in the outrages against palestinians. 15,000 palestinians have been killed in israeli airstrikes, three quarters of whom are women and children. >> that was sunday, today is tuesday tonight, jayapal issued a statement about the backlash to those comments saying that she unequivocal condemns hamas's use of as an active war

cheryl sandberg, now of she worked on facebook for human rights advocate, had this to say today. >> sexualnever be used as an act of war. -- must be upheld despite a policy of our time, because no matter what, -- intending, what flag you are flying, what religion you practice or if you practice none at all, something we can all agree on is that there are exactly no circumstances that justify sexual assault. >> what do you make of the fact that she felt the need to come out and say that because of the silence we have heard for two months from places like the united nations? >> a lot of women's organizations are -- ngos. it was pretty disturbing, when you think about it. every day that passes, more evidence and testimonies. some of the videos they showed today in the u. n. were videos of people who came and gave testimony to the police. it is not just people who gave interviews to journalists, they went to the police with the police interrogator, and they gave a testimony about some people saw in their own eyes, women being gang sexually assaulted in the music festival. others saw others get

. >> it cook cheryl sandberg who did that video, which was a terrible video, it was a good video, butwas tough to watch. and this is sort of, i talked about it quite a bit about, what she was doing, she wanted to call attention, and she knows she can convene people, this is sheryl at her best where she got people to pay attention and she couldn't believe that they didn't do it, and so started to go to press on it and she started to bring people together and it is very important. a lot of what you're talking about is simple communication. and empathy. but you have to stack tragedies, you're already lost. >> something deeper to talk about, lulu, this idea, if reiham is right, and i know you seldom think he is, that there is identity politics involved in here, that people are either victims or victimizers, and so therefore, our sympathy for them needs to be partial depending on their stat us. >> i don't think that there is any disagreement among this group about this particular issue. i want to be completely clear. i think that what happened here was a bit of a travesty. when we're talki

and several people that you know of, hillary clinton, and kristin gillibrand the senator and cheryl sandberg who used to be the coo of facebook. she also wrote that book lean. in she spoke to fox digital after the event. she also spoke during the event. there were 700 people there. there were also israeli officers sharing their experiences after recovering women's bodies after october r 7th. but, first, before i tell you what some of them said, listen to sheryl sandberg who had a message saying that rape is unacceptable. >> the world has to decide who to believe. do we believe the hamas spokesperson who said that rape is forbidden, therefore, it couldn't have possibly happened on october 7th? or do we believe the women whose bodies tell us how they spent the last minutes of their lives. this goes beyond politics. if we can't agree that rape is wrong, then we have accepted the unacceptable. then the question will be not what is happening in the middle east. but what is happening to our humanity. >> ainsley: the israeli officers can i share really quickly, steve. >> steve: yeah. >> ainsley: th

>> nobody is going to argue with you about that, and i thought this was a better week in the cheryl sandberg others went to the united nations instead is not resistance. we've got to make sure, yeah, whole generation, and -- some of these long-standing conflicts and the idea that -- nelson mandela was -- never kidnapped anybody's grandmother. if you use weapons he went after -- infrastructure. hamas is not. hamas as a reign of terror. so there's a lot that needs to be -- you are correct when you mentioned a little bit earlier the democratic party coalition is under some particular stresses and strains now because you have some working class women of color that are beginning to follow the white men working class -- you have some muslims who are beginning to -- biden's position but you also have -- jewish americans also feel -- the can be some reorientation in some reorientation, some stresses on the parties -- but here is where i think we should all be able to agree. no hey. don't hate. jewish people? don't hate. muslims, don't hate. trans feeble, don't hate. immigrants? don't hate? china or