. >> but i read your piece and the context of the whole cheryl sandburg conversation and i felt it was a stark choice. for most women it's more in the middle. you lean in at certain moments you lean out. men have this linear career trajectory. women, you start leaning in, you have kids or a parent gets sick or something and whether it's by choice or exhaustion, you step away and i don't -- you know, i don't think men -- i know cheryl says okay get your husband to do half house to work, it will make it easier but there are things they can't do. i'll give you one example. >> poor dan. >> there's a lot of things we can't do. >> but literally, i'm moderating one of the primary presidential debates right after i had a baby. sitting in a dirty closet on the floor behind the auditorium where this debate is taking place between obama and hillary clinton and pumping breast milk. i just had my kid. 20 minutes before i'm going on. trying to get my head in the game. thinking about the questions i want to ask. breast milk is flying every where. how do you lean in at that moment? what's the equivale

annual convention, don't just bring in bloggers but big names like president obama and facebook's cheryl sandburg. >> were you surprised at the success of this? it's been ten years now. >> you know, i have to tell you know. i grew up in print and broadcast media and wept online at a time when message boards were so pop popular and robust in the first bubble. at the time, i ren thinking it's amazing. i can put up some of the bowe best magazine content in the world on line. and i can't get the women out of the message boards to look at the content from some of the world's biggest brands. it turned out that we are the lucy ricardos and the dear abbyes of our own lives. and this is gold right there. >> it is gold, bloggers headquarters by the way on redwood shores. interested in attending next year's convention? you won't have to tral very far. is it a blessing or curse to have the zuckerberg name? it's a blessing when it comes to her bank account, but not when it comes to her own identity. mark zuckerberg's sister randi is launching her new project. >> is there a time where you don't give out your n

tim cook, ceo of apple, cheryl sandburg, coo of pacebook, eric schmidt, chairman of google. and marissa mayer, ceo of yahoo! they're going to be meeting with president obama in the next couple of hours to talk about these issues. most critically, it appears from this meeting, at least what we've been told about this meeting so far, they'll be talking about these surveillance issues at the national security agency. and, carol, keep in mind, even before this federal judge's ruling came down yesterday on the nsa, that judge's ruling saying that president james madison would be aghast at the bulk of phone collection records, gathering that's been going on over at the nsa, even before that ruling came down, tech executives sentd a letter to the white house, calling into question some of the surveillance actives over at the nsa, just to show you a quick quote from that letter from those executives to the president, it said the balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state and away from the rights of the individual, rights that are enshrined in our constitution

going to include executives such as apple's tim cook, twitter's activity costolo, eric schmidt, cheryl sandburg. comcast's brian roberts and at&t's stephenson. the meeting will discuss issues having to do with the nsa surveillance program and the impact on technology companies that comes a day after a federal judge said that the program almost certainly violates the law. it's weird. >> the judiciary is weird. and it's funny the way one judge can see one thing and one judge can see -- and to interpret the law, it's -- you would think it would be objective, but it's not very subjective. that's why very activist judges are the ones that worry me and scare me. and that's why we have a system of higher and higher appeals. hopefully the best ones are at the very top. >> that's what this does, basically pushes this to the supreme court, stops that process so the supreme court can weigh in on what's happening. >> it's pretty neat the way we do it. people complain about appointments getting held up and things. but there's a lot of due diligence done. when you get into a place where it really matters wha