chester chester caller. >> many studies have been done and your zip code determines your destiny and that is exhibited in many ways but especially in terms of educational outcome. if you are from a more affluent suburb like westchester -- i am from harlem -- we have access to a much better public education system than the kids do in harlem. that is what i was interested in. i think that difference is morally wrong and this is a civil rights issue of today and it is not just about race. it is about class. the rest of this is tremendous -- the risk of this is tremendous. if i want to be a doctor or struggling homemaker. in harlem, many of them will not have that choice because that will not have the skills to graduate high school and get through college. >>eva moskowitz founded this. she runs one of the schools. she runs the harlem success academy and she is a former council member where she chairs the committee. she is quite politically active. when she ran for borough president she decided to open schools for through what she knew is that all kids could succeed. >> as she is a democrat? >> she is. she is one of the early damage -- education reformers. >> we will show you another club which would show a one of the families you filmed. >> [no audio] >> [unintelligible] >> ♪ >> she says she just takes care of me. >> when did nadia horn of her hearing. >> i guess about two years old. >> was that her aunt? >> yes, she is a single mother. i see her a lot. they are in a very challenging circumstance. she is a single deaf mother who adores her daughter and understands that education is the key to her daughter's success. she did the best that she could to try to find her a better school than what was being offered into traditional school system in her district. >> what does she do for a living? >> she does not work right now. she is trying to get your ged. >> that little kid can't sign? >> yes, she can. >> how old is she? >> at the time we were shooting, she was four. >> a much shooting did you have to -- how much shooting did you have to do with each family? we shot for three months and the idea was to get to know each of the families and their lives and circumstanccs and their dreams in the month leading up to the lottery with the lottery being a common tactic of that which brings all hese different people together. we very the amount of time we spent with them. if you have been in a new york apartment, they are very small. we had a tall cameramen and equipment and we tried to do it in short bursts. >> you said she lived right down the street. you live in harlem? >> i live on 188 straight. >> if you have never been to harlem, where does it start and finish? >> it depends who you ask. there are different neighborhoods and offer manhattan like sugar hill and that is 145th street and some people consider that parliament some don't. it is basically above central park. >> that is a controversy where some of these people lived. >>> i want to make sure to tell you personally be good, the bed, and the ugly about school decide. we don't have a magic formula. it is about establishing a strong school culture of high expectations. we have a longer school day and school year and we are pretty relentless. what happens if your child -- if you do not show up on time? what would crazy people do who are focused on you getting your kids to school? i do wake up calls. we will wake you up. if you are late consistently, we will wake up calls. we will have to work three times as hard and we do and we are very successful. our practice exams, 100% of our children as the exam. 100%. there is no school in harlem that has marked a 58% of the children taking a test. this suggests that children are capable of an enormous amount and the problem with education is not the children, it is the grown-ups. we do not use a test at the end goal. our goal for our children is college graduation. >> we feel you can improve the education outcome for children in harlem. we were hearing it was not the same kids and families are troubled and these young people are dealing with so many issues that we cannot expect them to compete with other children growing up. we thought that while it was going to be hard for our children we could create schools all over america where children still learn despite the fact that they are growing up in these troubled neighborhoods and families. >> when did you learn that even moscowitz was controversy. >> it was during the shoot. i was intentional about avoiding controversy and politics. i did not want to divide the audience. i did not have any particular side that i took. we found that was impossible. what i learned of the process is that it is not really about sides. there are many people looking to create -- it really should be about what is best for kids. i thought was important to show the controversy in the end because there is the question i had which is why there aren't more schools like this because parents want them and they are successful. unfortunately, the answer you get to that is that it is because some parents don't care or because of poverty or culture. lús!q6ñwhat is interesting abot clip is that the parents in harlem were surprised by the results that the school was getting. these schools are proving is that that is not true. it is not society and it is not a parents lack of interest that is causing the enormous achievement gap between the west chestershe country and the harlems of the country >> i am from greenwich, conn. originally. >> did you go to high school there? >> i went to greenwich high school. that is the one public school in town. >> greenwich high school has a reputation, explain. >> it is quite big. it has several thousand kids and growing since i was there. i don't know how big it is now. it is known for being a good public bicycle. i take a little bit of issue with that. there is room for improvement there. this is why i get scared and i hear that 30 minutes away in harlem kids are doing half as good. i think that is terrible. in fact, that is proven and in testing there is an achievement gap. this is not based on income level or test scores or whatever. our students are falling behind. i think we are number 22 out of 29 countries. this affects everyone. whether you are from greenwich or westport or harlem, this is a serious outcome. >> it is safe to say that greenwich's one of the most -- one of the richest towns in