we thought like that, like chet hanks. and then we thought like do you think he would do it. and we hired him. so he hadn't done a lot of acting recently. and this is probably his biggest acting part. and he is basically playing himself. and also, you know, i'm in recovery. he was just new to recovery. so there was a lot of real stuff going on. and he played this character for three episodes. and it was really kind of exciting. >> rose: describe your style of interview. >> yeah, i just need to know some things. i like it to go as freely as possible. i have a general sense of who the person is. and then i don't have any real-- i don't want to dismiss major achievements if i'm talking to somebody who cured cancer, it would be good if i covered that. >> rose: yes, it would. or at least recognize it. >> so i try not to miss-- . >> rose: in the introduction, by the way, he cured cancer. >> yeah. if i forget to talk about that during the talk. but i am not too hard on where it goes. i would like to follow the-- wherever it happens. >> rose: the reason i ask, that is exactly-- i onc