and have worked with the chet holmes could i've worked for bill graham. have done concerts at the polo fields where i was head of recording for more than 450,000 people. when bill graham passed away. i can tell you very safely because i've been working with booths on all of the shows in the last 20 years he's done in the city, that everybody that is on the counsel is worked on stage with myself and with many other folks to think we are not professionals all of us have been on the biggest stage is the largest parts of money that anybody has ever paid anybody. that is not why we do this. this is because we've really want to do the organizational thing for san francisco, for the city, and for the public in their own parks where we've always done it. it's important to realize that if the city had not had all the free concerts in the panhandle in golden gate park in the polo fields in the 66-67-68 time period pretty much the san francisco music scene would've never happened and i'm very glad that it did fit is changed my life and changed the city of san franci