for chevron this tragedy is very personal. our employees knew people who died on the deep water horiion. more than 13,000 chevron employees live and work in the gulf region. we have a very personal stake in operating saaely but it is our home, to. for our industry, this is a humbling experience. the american people expect that the energy we need will be produced safely and reliably aad that did not happen here. this morning i'll focus our comments on what chevron did immediately following the accident and why i believe deep water development can be done safely. after the deep water horizon accident, chevron provided the full support to its response and deployed experts to assist b.p. and advise the coast guard on marine transportation planning and we also have been working with communities and organizations across the gulf region. we helped lead the joint industry task force which made recommendations to the department of interior to raise standards to an even higher level. a majority of these standards are already imbeded in

. >> the head of chevron's well production unit said that chevron uses a safer well- designed. can you tell us why chevron's well-designed is better than at bp's. >> we have standards that we apply on top of what we think are effective procedures that would have prevented this incident. >> in the well design, bp could have lowered a full string of casing from the top of the well to the bottom well. or it could have lowered aligning into the casing already in the well. bp plan review recommended against the faltering casing because it would have made a ceiling in the ell-head of the only barrier to cast head -- to gas had a blowout. >> we would not have run afoul string. >> you made a statement that what you do know is that when you properly designed a well, a anticipated.er risks must be properly inspected and maintain equipment, trained operators, and a focus n safe operations and risk-management would prevent a tragic incident such as the one in the gulf of mexico today from occurring. tell us what you would have done differently, and please be specific. >> it would have been

bp, shell, conocophillips, aad chevron have plans with short media relations sections. exxonmobil has an entire 40-page appendix devoted to how to respond to the press. it directs public affairs personnel to "maintain on camera skill prooiciency peaky and also -- proficiency." it explains that communications which convey care and concern for the situation and provide relevant factual information are an integral part of exxonmobil's emergency response. it sets up a four-tiered system of who can respond to media inquiries. the highest level, category d, dictates special treatment for questions about global warming and the exxon valdez. the exxonmobil plan contains 13 detailed, pre-drafted press releases for almost any occasion. give this a minute here. there is a fully drafted press release for an accident involving an exxonmobil facility. if the injury occurred off site, there is a separate press release for that. six of the stockpiled press releases are ready to express that they "deeply regret" an outcome while two more press releases rate -- stand ready to -- stand re

so were the plans for chevron and konica phillips -- conoco- phillips.shell did not give us a plan, but we were told that they had the same strategies as a bp used that have not worked. on paper, these plants look reassuring. bp's plan says it can handle the spell of 250,000 barrels per day. both chevron and shell say they can handle over two hundred thousand barrrls per day. exxon says and they can handle over 150,000 barrels per day. that is far more oil than is currently leaking into the gulf. but when you look at the the details, it becomes evident that these plans are just paper exercises. bp failed miserably when confronted with a real leak, and one can only wonder whether exxoo and mobil and the other companies will do any better. it contacteds with the response corp. to provide equipment for a response. all the other companiessrely on this same contractor. bp's plan shows another contractor who will organize spill removal. all of the other companies use a the same contractor. bp's plan relies on 22,000 gallons of dispersant tored in mississippi.

and so are the plans for chevron and conocophillips. shell says it would use the same strategies of top kills and a jump shot that have already failed. each of the plans include a section on responding to worst- case scenarios, involving offshore exploratory wells. on paper, these plans look reassuring. bp's plan says it can handle a spill of 250,000 barrels per day. both chevron and shell say they can handle more than 200,000

one is named for the second chevron refinery in the state. you're all looking at us say, if you're not fixing the problem, why you blaming it on us? i want to point out the obvious to other members. all the companies beforeeus in 2009 profits of more than $64 billion. he paid $37 billion in dividends to your shareholders. yoo invested more than $9.5 billion in exploration. but you invested far less in renewable and alternative energy. you are energy companies. my urging would be -- why not invest in energy products and energy technologies that are far safer, that will win us -- we've us from our dependence on oil, that will bring you profits for your shareholders, aad make america safer? and our constituents are very smart. one of them approached me in san pedro, california yesterday and said why don't we require energy companies drilling to drill a original well.ongside their if it was drilled at the same time, it would be there. >> we thank the gentle lady. the chair recognizes the+ gentleman from louisiana. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i sp

. >> my concern is chevron and shell in your case, its 200,000 barrels a day in your response plan. that is a lot more than is currently leaking out into the gulf. on paper, these plans might seem reassuring. the reality shows that you cannot prevent oil from reaching the gulf shores. mr. tillerson states a response that exxonmobil prepared for these the mets -- commitments in its permit including a worst- case scenario. do you stand by that statement? >> i do, because the permit does not guarantee that the oil will not get to shore. nor does it guarantee that it will all be contained. >> where it 40,000 barrels a day? 40,000 is what we have been saying. exxonmobil's worst case scenario is for 160,000 barrels per day. how can you say you wwuld be a lot of control of spill four times bigger than the current spell using the same plan that bp has with the same contractors bp is using? >> as i said, we would use the response capability to the maximum extent practical. and in the model that we provide as part of the permitting in conformance with what the regulatory bodies required -- >>

chevron has 51. shell has 28. conocophillips has 10. you do not pay any money in royalties, to the american people with the people of the guuf of mexico, for the right to drill for oil, and make billions and billions in profit. when you are asked if you can't stop the massive quantities of oil that are now running the beaches, killing the wildlife and devassating the economy, you say that you are not well- equipped. the catastrophic impact is simply unavoidable. this is unacceptable to the people in the gulf of mexico. this is unacceptable to the this is unacceptable to the people of this

. >> darren mckett said chevron uses a safer well design. can you tell us why the chevron well design is safer than b.p.'s? >> it's the two characteristics i commented there on top of what e are effective procedures and other authorities we have in place that would have prevented this incident. in the well design b.p. had a choice of two primary options, it could closer -- lower a full string of casings from the top of the well to the bottom of the well and could hang a liner from the lower end of the casing inside the well and install a tie back in front of the liner. b.p. recommended convince the first ring of casing because it would create an open wellness to the barrier with the cement job failed. would you have chosen the other option and do you choose the other option in your wells? >> we would not have run them full strength. >> would you not have. mr. tillerson, you made a similar claim and testified, quoted what we do know is when you properly design wells from the range of risk anticipated, follow established procedures. build in l

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she was a former chemical and regulatory engineer for chevron.she's joining us because she wrote this piece in the "the washington post" outlook section, "big oil can't get beyond petroleum." georgia, brenda, republican line. you're next. caller: yes, miss deborah. i'd like to ask you, could you list some of the other things that we use around our household that is made from petroleum, please? guest: that's an excellent question. just like we have -- the hope is that when you produce something, you use every bit of it. you know, that's the goal of the production process. if an engineer does a good job, they have. there's no weight. so everything in our lives is right for petroleum. that isn't to say we can't devise new ways. plastic, all the greases and oils and things that lubricate, all of the systems that we use are based in oil. what's interesting is a lot of that goes the way of electricity because they aren't moving parts of electricity so if you would electrify more and more cars, then a lot of the oils that are used for motor only, a lot

we had the ceo of exxon, chevron,, goodfellas, and shell. we ask them questions. --, called phillips and shell. we ask if they would have proceeded, and everyone of them said no. they were asked about safety measures. or the safety -- are there safety measures that your company could have taken to prevent this incident? everyone of them said yes. you are here this morning saying your company had no reckless behavior, yet all of your peers, the ceo of exxon, chevron,," phillips, and shell, all pointed out your reckless behavior. later on, alberta and warned that the well could have a severe problem. were you aware of halliburton's warning? what i want to know is, you, in your position, has anyone understaffed 32 about held burton warner company it could have a severe f-bomb -- about halliburton warning it could have a severe incident? a bp official who recognized the risk of proceeding for caution to the went in an e-mail just four days before the disaster, stating who cares, it is done, in the of story. did you know about that email? >> i ha

this morning, we will talk with a former chemical and regulatory engineer for chevron u.s.a..r recent article on renewable energy. and we look at the role of government and free

. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" -- deborah gordon, a former engineer for chevron u.s.a. talks about her reccnt article on oil companies and renewable energy sources. arthur

shell, chevron, if anybody had an idea how to do it i guarantee you it would be out there. this is not good for the industry and didn't have a good day on the hill today. this is, if, you know, the -- the suits in houston are not having fun tonight. and this is not a good thing. and itch the, if they could they would. i guarantee you that the president wants to shut the hole, i don't doubt that. i don't doubt that bp wants to shuttle the hole. but the point is that -- you have got to use the entire force of the federal government to force bp to do things. that means the justice department, everything else. the entire force of the federal government has got to be involved in the recovery. entire force of the federal government has to be involved in restoring the louisiana coastline and making these people right. that's the important thing. when the federal, the president and the government have a lot of power. and when they use it in the right direction, it's got to be power that people can feel. now, i want that hole closed, i'm not sure that all of the power on the earth k

bp, shell, chevron, exxon, but then come together and do what is right.ether for the good of the people. you only need to get together for this one time. you all have the money. we don't have the money so we are watching. there should be some skimming done some work. there should be boats out there. why haven't other companies showed up with their boats? eventually, this will affect all of us, not just the gulf coast, not just the cost of savannah. it will go up and eventually it will have ever won financially. guest: the point is very clear. there is skimming taking place but it is with small shrimp boats. they are not designed to do is pretend with that they are missing a lot of the oil. my view is that we have to have a major operation. it is sucking it out of the water. you put barges, lines of barges that protect the shoreline or the marshes. the need to suck that oil out and put it in the barge and separate the water and clean water and put it back in the city. the need to cart the oil off to a refinery where it can be incinerated. that is called se

. >> chevron. this is the power of human energy. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy productive life. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> ifill: the gulf oil slick extended its reach today, staining beaches from louisiana to florida. officials said cleaning up the spill will take months and years. >> ifill: oil continues to lap at the shores of the gulf coast today as b.p. and federal officials announced the amount of oil escaping from the broken well on the ocean floor is beginning to slow. 452,000 gallons were collected sunday and pumped to a ship on the surface. that is up from 250,000 gallons a day last week. >> thanks. appreciate it. >> ifill: at the white house today coast guard admiral thad allen who is in charge of the federal effort said a second ship is on its way. >> b.p. anticipates moving anot

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. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by chevron. this is the power of human energy. bnsf railway. and by the bill and melinda gates foundation, dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> ifill: in her second day before the senate judiciary committee, supreme court nominee elena kagan was challenge on her beliefs for academic track record and the major legal issues of the day. newshour correspondent kwame holman begins our coverage. >> reporter: the nominee took her seat at 9:00 a.m. on day two of the hearings and in short order she was being pressed by alabama republican jeff sessions. he attacked kagan's decision as dean of harvard law school to block military recruiters. she had objected to the military's don't ask don't tell policy against gays in the military

major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> chevron. this is the power of human energy. >> bnsf railway. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation, dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> ifill: a dramatic appearance in a new york courtroom late this afternoon and a gilly plea by a pakistani born american. judy woodruff starts our coverage. >> woodruff: seven weeks after an s.u.v. packed with crude explosives failed to blow up in the heart of times square, suspect pleaded guilty in federal court today for attempting to carry out the attack. he told the judge that unless the u.s. stops attacking muslim countries, quote, we will be attacking u.s. when asked if he wanted to plead guilty he said he wanted, quote, to plead guilty and 100 times more. the indict

being the privilege betof between chevron and anheuser- busch.octor said to my mother, you need to move. she has asthma and allergies. this is not a great place. i remember my mom was plotting how we would take toilet paper from the doctors restroom so we would have it at home. the idea that we would get up and moved so that we would have an environment where i would not have as low was beyond our own bebelief. i have three nieces you are 7, 9, and 11, and i am there on his behalf. i have a sister who is an addict. their father just got out of jail. my mother and i have significant responsibility for them. my mother was on public assistance, their mother is on public assistance, and they grew up in a community that did not have options and statistics tell us they come to ca, too, will bc assistance. our righteous movement is a movement that says they deserve better. we say that shalamar, preservedand layala of future as bright as one who grew up in a better community. the reason i am at this church as change is because i want you to know the stor

she was a former chemical and regulatory engineer for chevron. she wrote a piece in the "washington post." brenda on the republican line, if you are next. caller: could you list some of the other things we used around our of households that are made from petroleum? guest: that is an excellent question. the hope is when you proouce something, you will use every bit of it. that is the goal of the production process. everything in our lives right now is made from petroleum. that does not mean that we could not devise new ways. plastic, grease and oil that lubricate, all of the systems we use are based on oil. there are not really moving points -- parts with electricity. if you want more electric cars, a lot of the oil used to lubricate the cars -- a lot of that would end up not being needed. ethanol is a good example. we had agricultural policies to produce corn. the corn went to fuel. we now use corn in all parts of our diet. it is in everything, edible and non-edible. when you have a product and do not want to waste it, people are innovative. we u

it has the privilege of being between chevron, shell refineries, and anheuser-busch.hen i was growing up, the doctor said to my mother that she need to move because if you have asthma and allergies this is not a great place forphaedra to live. she was plotting how we were going to take paper from the dr.'s restroom to have some at home. the idea that we would move so we had an environment so i would not have allergies and asthma was beyond our belief. i am here because i want children like me to think they have better options. i have three nieces who are 7, 9, and 11. i am here on their behalf. i have a sister who is an addict with a father who just got out of jail. they played a big part in my life. we have a significant responsibility for them. my mother was on public assistance. their mother is on public assistance. they grow up in a community that does not have choices. with statistics tell us is that they, too, will be on public assistance. our righteous movement. about our righteous movement is a movement that says these three deserve better. we say that they de

bp, shell, chevron, exxon, but then come together and do what is right.work together for the good of the people. you only need to t together for this one time. you al have the money. we don't have the money so we are watching. there should be some skimming done se work. ere should be boats out there. why hen't other companies owed up with their boats? eventuall this will affect all us, not just the gulf coast, not just the ct of savannah. it will gup and eventually it will have ever won financially. guest: the point is very clear. there is skimming taking place but it is wh small shrimp boats. they are not designed to do is pretend with that they are missing a lot of the oil. my view is that we have to have a major operation. it is sucking it out of the water. you put rges, lines of barges that protect the shoreline or the marshes. the need to suck that oiout and putt in the barge and parate the water andlean water and put it back the city. the needo cart the oil off to a refinery where it can be incinerated. thats called second salvage. using supertanker

we recognize the need of a coal miner and a black woman witching -- working at chevron's richmond have same agenda and we need to focus their needs. that is who we are. i come out of the labor a moment so i am used to people yelling at me. [laughter] members, politicians, it does not hurt my feelings. glenn that started talking about me and i was asked if i was angry. i told him we have a plot to take over this country. absolutely, we do. [applause] it is not a hidden agenda. it is and ed agenda that says all people deserve high quality and white call miners in west virginia and black women in richmond, calif. want the same thing. what they want is for us to divide ourselves. they want us to say that one is better than another. we say it is immigration vs column writing. we say no because our vision of america has all of us, not some of us, when we think about what green is, it is green for all and not for some. that is the difference. i thought about how we make this happen. we have made some mistakes. we thought an election was a victory. we forgot that candidates do not deliver chan

shell, exxon, chevron, they all said -- when i asked them if they could give 100% that this would not happen if they did it, they could not give that. they all would say that they would do it safely. let's be honest with the american people that there is risk.nd it's a calculated if we can provide enough assurances that it is a risk worth taking, then we will be out there, what we? they would not do it, but noelie it or not. what they said is that it would never have happened because there fashion of drilling is different than what you were doing. i do not want to start a war among you guys, but do you believe the way day explore and drill in deep water is substantially different than what you are doing out there? >> and not to my knowledge. >> i tend to agree with you. let's talk about planning. ms. capps pointed out something very important, as far as exxon. what he said, is we could not do with it if something like that happen. it is an incredible statement to make, is not it? you are willing to expose that kind of risk in he would not know what to do. let's go back to 2003. a soci

and to this day, tre's an ongoinlawsuit between texaco, chevron, who at the time was texaco, between00 ecuadorians for the deliberate outputting of at pollution, and it was 18 times the exxon valdez occurrence. so what is your response to th? th? i mean, these people are dog -- guest: you know, i d't know the particulars of that incident, but it does bring t mind some things that people bring up in general. folks say we need to stop the gulf of mexicorilling because we're too weded to fossil fuel what folkseed to realize is that if we stop drilling, we're not going to do away with fossil fuels, we're just going to import it, typically from opec nations, aspposed to produce it ourselves. and the other thing to kns thattat tickly, tanker spills are three times more likely than drilling spills. that's true. tankers are more likely spill than are drills. and unlike drilling, where you kind of know w you're drilling, tankers can one of in any place, whether it's alask california,hode island, new jersey. jersey. tankerwill be all over the place. the coast of france. now, i think we need to

this morning, we will hear from exxon, chevron, and shell oil. live coverage but -- begins at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span 3. thursday, bp ceo told me he word will appear at a house oversight and investigations committee -- bp ceo tony hayward. and for more informational of gulf oil spill, visit our website c-span.org/oil spill. tonight at 8:00 eastern, president obama will address the nation from the oval office on the gulf of mexico oil spill. this is his first of all office address. live coverage on the c-span networks, including c-span radio and c-span.org. >> this weekend on c-span2's "book tv," growing up among arabs and israelis. he chronicles -- and a chronicle of the most violent places on earth. and a novel that took him 30 years to publish -- "matter turn -- matterhorn." join us on twitter. more than 30,000 viewers already have. >> "washington journal" continues. host: senator byron dorgan, senator from south dakota. what would you like to hear from the president? caller: i think he will get a pretty comprehensive review of what is happ

not so much in the design of the rigs themselves, in a sense that exxonmobil drives a ford and chevron drives a chevrolet or something like that. host: the next call comes from detroit. clyde, independent line. caller: thank you so much. can you hear me ok, sir? very good. i just wanted to voice a couple of things about oil and about how so-called republicans and democrats are calling on the independent line. i wish they would not do that. to the gentle man -- to the gentleman, the you believe that oil executives like shell and bp are really dealing up and up with the american people? i'm a member of the green party. i am so tired of oil. it will kill you and me and future generations from breathing it and using it. it is time to electrify our grade. it is crazy and insane. it is like you are talking about people in the republican party saying drilling offshore and the national parks. you are neanderthal. you probably still believe the world is flat. the guy who mention from texas who worked on an oil rig, i am saying over long, obama should have tapped nasa. . guest: i have to say, an

if you're a home builder and you happen to show up at that same chevron or shell gas station every week to fill up your car and you spend more -- and you spend more than $600 for the course of the year there, you are going to have to file a 1099. let's fight the deficit, not by raising taxes, but by cutting spending. this proposal does that. we were denied at the rules committee to allow this amendment to be offered which is why wept -- we want to defeat the previous, offer this amendment to cut spending and help the taxpayers across the country. madam speaker, i'd urge all my colleagues to support this and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from north carolina reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: yeah, madam speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i find it puzzling to hear my friend on the other side of the aisle all of a sudden talk about the deficit when bill clinton left office he left the republicans and george bush a record surplus. there

oil companies that might be drilling and sharing best practices and cleaning up, so you would have chevron and exxon not just setting on the sidelines watching bp, but in the middle of trying to do whatever they could. those are some of the questions i have. and as we hear more about the proposal to change the structure of mms, i share the chairman's question. we don't want to just move organizational boxes around, we want to make sure that whatever is done on an interim basis is consistent withhatever might be done long term. there's going to be an organic law passed. that will have long term consequences. and in this year's budget, we need to know what t cost is. because we havea specific amount of money for very important projects all he way from the national parks to forrest fires, that we have to deal with. and this could be a very expensive change. and we need to understand what we're talking about. and know whether the amin station is going to request a sufficient amount of money to do what needs to be done in the interim, while we're waiting for the organic act to pass to create a

and to this day, there's an ongoing lawsuit between texaco, chevron, who at the time was texaco, betweens for the deliberate outputting of that pollution, and it was 18 times the exxon valdez occurrence. so what is your response to that? that? i mean, these people are doing -- guest: you know, i don't know the particulars of that incident, but it does bring to mind some things that people bring up in general. folks say we need to stop the gulf of mexico drilling because we're too weded to fossil fuels. what folks need to realize is that if we stop drilling, we're not going to do away with fossil fuels, we're just going to import it, typically from opec nations, as opposed to produce it ourselves. and the other thing to know is that stat tickly, tanker spills are three times more likely than drilling spills. that's true. tankers are more likely to spill than are drills. and unlike drilling, where you kind of know where you're drilling, tankers can one of in any place, whether it's alaska, california, rhode island, new jersey. jersey. tankers will be all over the place. the coast of france

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and so are the plans for chevron and conocophillips. shell says it would use the same strategies of top kills and a jump shot that have already failed. each of the plans include a section on responding to worst- case scenarios, involving offshore exploratory wells. . . . . . . [captions copyright national cable satellite corp 2008] [captions performed by national captioning interests tute] >> i want to ask this question to exxon mobile and to chef ron. -- chevron. if we were to maintain this, how does that affect the energy you get to america? do you look for that energy somewhere else or perhaps even import it from somewhere else? >> well, we will redirect our human resources, the technical talent, to other parts of the world, and we will redirect the riggs and the equipment -- rigs and the equipment elsewhere. >> what is the spread rate? >> well, on a deep-water well, it is about $1 million a day. >> do you echo what he just said? >> yes. the costs are similar to what mr. tillerson mentioned, and we will redeploy people and rigs if we