chiat with china.huck nash but said that is a lot easier said than done. >> a lot of people want to feel a little bit better about it. the reality is, okay, fine, what kind of counter lever to the chinese have on our government should we try to indict some of those officials we have military services that have intelligence organizations and governments industrial espionage. so in the old days when he used to break into a government office and pull up the pictures were given in insider to do it for you, we can now dive into the servers. a lot of times they are saying that we have financed so much debt that we can do anything to help. so they feel that we need them a lot more than they need us. neil: what would get back change >> they would want something from us that would be a quid pro quo. we, you know, far be it from me to break the news here. but we spied sometimes too. we are into their systems, despite air into our systems. at some point they would have to see the frequency of our efforts. we see