this is bye chicago lewis ruby so. -- these are not artists that have -- these are more regional artists. they are not the artist that have national reputations. in new york we have grant's tomb in manhattan. and the portrait from 1896 you can see the taciturn/figure with a hat mccain. and other artists as well. then we have this collaborative piece. this was more typical one sculpture working on a figure and out of poverty was quite adept at his sculpture often would do the equestrian amount. surety tackle the entire grand memorial. he had no collaborators other than his assistance they completed it upon his death. we are moving into our next phase. which i wanted to rent you just present to you in a review of the conservation. when you begin a project to think about your project is what you're hoping to achieve. i think we felt we had a study before there is a lot of technical information. in the end you have; mind. there is an aesthetic objectives. we needed to that remove all the wax coatings and corrosion so that the sculptural form could be appreciated. they are so complicated and