. >> at the chicago public policy from the time i was 15. here i am with a degree. my college summer job. i was disappointed but felt something was going to happen. i got this call from schools, and wind up an internship. didn't look good for the university to have one black student who did not have a job so he worked very hard to make that happen and that is how i ended up in it. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. on the go. after words is available by pod cast through itunes. visit booktv.org and click pod cast on the upper left of the page. select which one you would like to download and listen to afterwards while you travel. >> the story of thomas allen has written a new book fighting for the king and america's first civil war. who were the tories? >> people who didn't want to have independence from england. they started to talk. it was all political up until concord and lexington. and then there was a time when you could take the position being against the revolution and not get into too much trouble but wants the declaration of inde