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abby: next, of course we had to try the new chicken chalupa from taco bell, we are putting them to the test. a littlechalupa heathers alert, a fake app that could be spying on you at your own ohm. abby: that's creepy, a warning that we all need to hear. cheryl: it's a popular app. you have android phone in particular, you need to listen, there's malware that's a fake netflix app, the logo looks exactly the same. that's how the guys are getting the app onto phones and other android devices and basically it can access the camera and text messages, emails or contents, everything, if you click on the app with the netflix logo and disappears, that means that your phone has been hacked. abby: i wonder who these people are. heather: way too much time on their hands. abby: big mac sauce, we talked about the other day. cheryl: 10,000 bottles, right? they've given it all out and people are trying to resale them on ebay guess what, up to a hundred thousand dollars. abby: a hundred thousand dollars. cheryl: no bids on that un. a lot are ten grand. that's the big thing. heather: no it's not ketchup and man -- tac

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a bunch of chicken littles.oods that mexican people will starve paying too much for tequila and coronas. if you want it pay for it. i'm not an could economist you're out of control. last one from kerry. absolutely great idea. i want, i won't buy mexican products. sunday margaritas. everything is centered on margaritas and coronas. >> rightly so, to be honest. to their point, steve forbes recently, you know what? don't raise taxes. don't want it. don't buy it. give him a chance. liz: i think it is dangerous idea. anytime you do tax reform this way. business lobbying steps in. no to it. first to kill it. raising prices and hit farmers in the midwest who need to export their goods into mexico. charles: i understand where people are coming from. it is a lot, a lot more complicated folks than you think. that is why it's a proposal but we haven't done it yet. .. charles: one week into the trump administration and there is a feeling of optimism in the air. i'm charles payne and stuart will be back on monday. there is a

[ applause ] >> rachael: my poor little chicken has an anxiety complex at this point. [ laughter ] >>are going to add salt and pepper to the bird, as well. toss the bird around. come on in here, fellas. and then we will throw the coated bird right upon top of the squash and throw the whole thing in the oven! takes about 35-40 minutes. at 400 degrees. and, man, when it is done, it is one sexy beast! [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> rachael: mm-hmm. yes! [bell dings] >> rachael: oh, come on! [ crowd cheering ] [ applause ] >> rachael: richard, i love you, but i still need a job! [ laughter ] >> rachael: i am kidding. what did you make? >> stew. >> what did you make? >> beef stew with carrots and potatoes and tomatoes. because that's the ingredients. >> rachael: nice, nice. i will put my ridiculously easy supper into the oven and i will show you what it looks like, right after this! [ crowd cheering ] [ applause ] ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] the magic begins when jif fresh roasts peanuts to make peanut butter so deliciously creamy. it can even bring a kid out of her shell. that's why choosy mom

chicken? it makes me a little excited. >> it is debuting nationwide january 26. i imagine we'll have it in our studio within moments of its release. get ready. >> so it's not a good morning if you don't have beer and sushi. charlie the sushi chef stop by and show me how to roll my own sushi. i made a california roll. >> so i think i'm i quit my day job and start a sushi restaurant. and then new jersey 1015 was there with the morning crew. they loved it so much i said how do they have their own beer we won arse. he is going to take our suggestions and will have our own chasing news brew. >> your jason a story that involves a bar, couple of guys, and iron and a courtesy row. new yorkers have a lot of stress to deal with, and we all deal in different ways. some hit the gym to pump some iron, some hit the bar and they bring their iron. meet james cook he aims to bring back the cherish pastime one wrinkle at a time. >> not even that good at it. he he goes to the williamsburg watering hole every tuesday night at 9:00 p.m. he offers to iron clothing for free. >> i think

say, channel saying world debt, would accuse anybody talking about runaway deficits and debt is chicken littleement spending, there are some people who say it's just not a crisis for another 30 years or so. at what point, answering willie's question, at what point do we reach a point where it starts having an impact on the economy? >> it will have an impact on the economy when interest rates go up. it's worth remembering we went through this in 2010 where there was a lot of concern about exploding u.s. debt and maybe try to restrict the deficit. that was a period where it would be inappropriate to do so. u.s. economy is still immediately struggling from the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. we're now in a situation where the economy does seem to be approaching full employment and where owth has gone up. so this might not necessarily be the best time to decide you want to engage in more deficit spending. but really i think richard is correct. the true concern is going to be when foreigners stop buying u.s. debt. the u.s. finances its deficit in part by domestic consumers buying bonds and so on

eggs come from the chickens, right? but as a little boy i fell in love with raising chickens.the only thing about raising chickens, one young person there, thank you, young brother. when the setting here was set, i had to take the first eggs, mark them with a pencil, place them under the setting hen and wait three long weeks for the little chicks to hatch. some of you smart young scholars are saying, now, john lewis, why did you mark those fresh eggs with a pencil before you placed them under the setting hen? well, from time to time another hen would be in the same nest and there will be some more fresh eggs. you had to be able to tell the fresh eggs from the eggs that were already under the setting hen. so do you follow me? so when the little chicks were hatched, sometimes i would cheat on the setting hencs. when i looked back, it wasn't the right thing to do, not the most loving thing to do, not the most nonviolent thing to do. but i was never able to save the money for an incubator from the store. young men, you're not old enough to remember the sears roebuck store, the sea

the eggs come from the chickens, right? but as a little boy, i fell in love with raising chickens. any of you know anything about raising chickens? one young person there. thank you, young brother. when they were set, i had to take the fresh eggs, mark them with a pencil and set them under the setting hen and wait three weeks for them to hatch. some say why would you mark them with a pencil? well, from time to time another hen would get on the same nest and you had to tell the fresh eggs from those already under the setting hen. do you follow me? when the little chicks would hatch, sometimes i would cheat on these setting hens. when i look back, it was not it right thing to do, it was not the moral thing to do, it was not the loving thing to do, it was not the most violent thing to do but i was never able to save $9.18 and order the most inexpensive incubator. now young man, you're not old enough to remember the sears roebuck store, some people call it the wish book, i washi hish that this, i wish i had that. but at an 8-year-old child, i wanted to be a minister. i wanted to preach

>> probably not a chicken, not very big. >> little crunchy. >> that would be a little crunchy, yes.hat do you have here? >> salt rolls dollars beat salad, golden beats, red beats, goat cheese. >> oh,. >> and herb vinegarette and well as sunflowers. >> what was the whimming? >> goat cheese, i took a spice that i made with tyme, shoe mack, lemon, or egg know, wiped it to give it a fresh punch to it. >> looks really good, too. >> dandy leon. >> sunflowers. >> what did you bring in? >> i have little yellow fin tuna. >> oh,. >> and it is over vegetable machi, cucumber, carrots. >> can you do it with chop sticks or not? >> you can do with chop sticks orpik it up with your hands. >> i like that it is pink. >> yes. >> now why is it pink? >> it is soybeans. >> soybeans? >> soybeans, yes. >> instead of being like your normal see weed? >> yes. >> here we go. >> these are all of the flavors, everything else. >> all right, so again, this is why we want to be a sponsor of this every year, 40 different restaurants, you walk around, eat and drink, tickets still available, and it is for a very good

little meatballs and chicken. >> ramin: sour cherries.amily for generations. rice mixed with yogurt and saffron, baked into a crispy dome. don't think of rice as a side dish around here. it can be the main event. >> rahim: okay, very, very good. >> anthony: you put far more on the table than anyone could conceivably eat. is that -- >> ramin: yeah. >> nazila: yeah. >> ramin: if you don't like your guest, you don't put anything. >> roya: and here we have koofteh, which is large, very big, meatball. >> anthony: koofteh tabrizi. ground beef, onion, and cooked rice. walnuts, dried apricots, boiled egg, and barberries. >> ramin: anyways, we are a very interesting nation. >> anthony: indeed. and very, and very confusing. >> ramin: extremely confusing. >> anthony: for, for me, the contradictions are just -- >> nazila: enormous. >> anthony: enormous. >> nazila: iranians, we take you to our house and we take you to our hearts and all of that and in that way we are extreme, you know. we are extremists in so many ways. >> anthony: so good. >> ramin:

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and what he does is he tells the russian people, okay, you may have a little less chicken in your pot, but i'm making russia great again. look what we're doing all other the world. everyone is paying attention to us. russia is a great power on par with the united states and others. and he... and the anti-americanism is ramp nt in russia right now. he can tone it back. he's going to have to tone it back if he wants a good relationship with donald trump, but he's going to have to probably shift back the that again because the russian people are not going to be interested in having a guy give them a raw economic deal for another term. >> woodruff: ambassador mcfaul, is there one thing you can name that the yielings could deal with russia on? >> of course we can deal with them on counter-terrorism. we have and i think we are right now. that's easy. i think in other economic and trade issues, under the right conditions, and again, i think i want the really emphasize this point. vladimir putin knows exactly what he wants from this relationship. in return for good relations he wants lifting

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little animals, too. we can't find a lot of our chickens, roosters. >> reporter: the county is looking for money from the. the first break is untouched because of the nonstop rain. >> that levee is on private property and we really need and are very much looking forward to having the governor hopefully declare a state of emergency to free up funds from the state and feds to help us do that. >> it's not fair for us they didn't fix the last break of the levee. >> reporter: san benito said it will try to partner with other agencies to request federal money if it does not get that money from the state. >>> north bound lanes of highway 17 at readwood stayed open after being blocked -- redwood stayed open after being blocked by a tree that fell right in the middle of rush hour. both southbound lanes are still blocked tonight. >>> there was a massive mudslide on low 9 in felton and took down a tree -- on highway 9 in felton and took down a tree with it. >>> there was a roadblock in the east bay after a tree fell onto a car on crow canyon road. it happened just before 3:30 this afternoon in castro valley. the dr

. >>> coming up, scott sperling -- >> a little chicken?ott sperling will weigh in, but first, mike santelli made his way to our set. what's coming up. >> we'll talk about where we are in the bull market life cycle. is it early or late or are we set up for an exciting start as 2017 gets underway. inr ececdma nd m inr bng ccaatevevthfranetieyoolr ac >>> the trump effect on the bull market driving public excitement for stocks and boosting consumer confidence, but is a correction coming? mike santelli joins us with more. how can you say that? the dow is surging this morning. yet, you're saying 2017 could be the end. >> i don't mean the end as in we've seen all the upside. i think this is the phase we might be entering as we get into 2017 of a later stage of a bull market, which is often the most exciting. i think the market is set up better right now than it was last january in terms of the conditions. credit conditions, oil is not crashing. all those things look better right now. that means in the intermediate term, especially after the marke

chickens. >> rob, i have known you 15, 20 years. today's testimony was a little different than what i heard 15, 20 years ago. what's changed? >> you a better memory than i do. i think one thing that's changed is it's become clear that the path we thought china was going on, which was hopeful that they would become more market oriented, more respectful, that path simply didn't emerge. you could argue there's a significant amount of backsliding. really doubling down on a different strategy. i think this is the part that not enough people understand. the old strategy was about gaining commodity production largely in manufacturing, largely through inducing u.s. firms. it worked well for others. the new strategy is to go after our core competencies and technology. that's a very different strategy. we could have a trade balance and it wouldn't address that problem which is going after the kind of advanced industries. i think that's the new war, if you will. that's the new game that's under foot. i think that's a very concerning issue. that's why we have the positions n

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a little bit of chicken stock, apple cider vinegar, and tomato paste. >> it will be in here 8 to 10 hoursabout these, put it in before you go to work and by the time you come home the meat is done. when you take it out and put it on the board there's a bone that you pull out like that and the meat should be falling off. >> al and i have been picking this apart. >> it should be nice and moist and juicy. >> we cheated a little bit. this one we did in the smoker. it got next we have to make a besh mel sauce. we have a little bit of butter. we're going to add flour. equal parts. nix and cook it until it has a toasted aroma to it. it will take 3 to 4 minutes to do that. you can see the color has changed from white to a toasted blond color. now we'll add in the milk in thirds. we'll add -- >> why is that important? >> you don't want it to clump up. you want it to be nice and creamy. we'll whisk it and start to thicken up on you. once it gets smooth add more milk and repeat the process until you're done. an important step in working with roux. you never get the full thickening power until you br

chicken cut let. and then starting to apply their make up with it. so this is a littleore consumer friendly, silicone sponge. and apparently people had been using it, it is all the go. >> okay. you have one thing that you like about it? >> yes. the one thing dow like about it is to me it seems like it would useless product, because it is just, the product, would just be staying on the surface of the sponge. well, sponge. as opposed to like beauty blender, traditional sponge, where it might absorb little bit into it. so my con, though, is that it is just a little bit too patchy for me. >> really? >> also i was testing it out on my model, she said it felt little uncomfortable. but i just don't get it. and i don't know what inspired someone to just pull out their chicken cut let, put on their face? >> so, you have tried it both with like a liquid and a cream? >> yes. so i'm doing it right now with a liquid foundation, on my model. joeelle here will be doing it with a cream. >> did you think it would do better as a cream? >> smoother texture, however, it is just kind of pul

chicken for breakfast, right? it comes in this interesting little shell. maria: the shell is chicken?l: fried chicken, fried chicken is a big hit in fast-food restaurants. are you going to take a bite? maria: possibly. cheryl: i will take one for the team. dagen: it's like a chicken cutlet, a folded fried chicken cutlet. maria: smells very good. maria: spicey? >> it's good. strong but good. maria: come on. dagen: if you're use to the crispy crispy. maria: 340 calories. cheryl: over 400. there's fire sauce, you don't need it. dagen: taco bell continues to knock it out of the park and starting with the doritos taco shell. they continue to innovate, innovate. cheryl: they tested in california. they are only going to do this for the next few weeks but, you know, look at if i can -- chick-fil-a, kfc. maria: it's also really compact and easy. >> i'm not going to take the whole 12 pack. dagen: i don't think you can eat it while you're driving, though. cheryl: it's messy, my hands are actually covered in grease right now in a good way. thank you very much. maria: absolutely. [laughter] cheryl

chicken chalupa. i see the picture and it makes a little more sense. it tested well in bakersfield and kansas city, missouri. it will be on the menu january the 26th. if it's fried, people often like it. >> yes, they do. >>> all right, abc 7 news at 4:00 continues. the next big thing could be here. >> he can speak, he can move. >> the new class of hardware makers showing off their creations in san francisco. >>> kristen is here with a look at what's coming up at 5:00. >>> thanks. coming up, our storm coverage continues. marin county is cleaning up after a tree came crashing down onto sir francis drake boulevard. >>> contra costa county is cleaning up after a sinkhole opened up. >>> also ahead, why the irs is delaying tax refunds for millions of people. >>> and the animals taking advantage of some extra snow. those stories and more when dan and i sure, you could sit around all night waiting for a pizza to be delivered. but wouldn't making it yourself be a lot more fun? it's baking season. warm up with pillsbury. protein. protein proteiny protein. protei

chicken. >> speaking of sports. which do you think looks better with my jacket? sort of a mixed bag, a littlef everything in the midsection including a little soup i had earlier. >> hey. hey. hey. get that bunny out of there. thank you. [ laughter ] he made a menopause joke, imgs. [ speaking foreign language ] >> from new york and houston. >> this is "world news now." >> spooky. >> if you'd like please send your resume to us. anchor search, 47 west 65th street. >> co-you believe we do this week after week? this is "world news now." >> and some poor sucker sent in their resume actually and got the job. oh, baby. thank you. that was what was in the mug. anyway. >> they took that away for some reason. i can't imagine why. >> i think you guys are the biggest sissies. we had to come in at 10:00 and only aired from 2:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. in the morning. how long do you sit here in 15 minutes? >> an hour and a half. >> we're on until 3:30 and then 4 to 4:30. we're at the bars at 5:00 a.m. >> all right. that's not as bad as i thought. >> do you have any particular favorite moment from your time on th

would go in for $20 in quarters, all that the junk food he could he, chicken nuggets, key lime pie, hershey bars, and we had our little thanksgiving where i would buy him $20 worth of food and i'd say take your time what you want to eat, what can i do for you? and that's when we to former brotherhood. that's when a transcended lawyer client to true brotherhood. i knew his story. it wasn't all that complex. he was home. but sometimes i go just to see him to tell there someone out there who loved him and cared for him. i him. i wanted nothing more than his freedom. he loved those visits because otherwise he was in a cell 23 hours per day and the other hour in an enclosed record by himself. thirteen paces front to back he could touch his cell from side to side. he told me me today he could touch the ceiling flat-footed. think about that. you tell me that guys would hang themselves on death row. one guy took his own eyeball out and ate it and then he took out the other eyeball and it went back to death row again. it broke people. but it didn't break him. he him. he was a measured peace and grace. see figure on death row w

little advice. if you're more inclined to eat grilled chicken, that is more the dash diet. but if a plate of hummus and red wine sound more appetizing, explore are the mediterranean. erika edwards, nbc news. >>> if eating right and exercising is part of your resolution, listen up. we're wellness with plenty just for you. chefs will show off their healthy cooking and you can limber up in the yoga and zumba areas. >> this is the 24th year that we have our health and fitness expo and the best part is that it is absolutely free. join us at the washington convention center. you can get all the information on our website and of course through our nbc app. >> i'll be down there from i think 2:00 to 5:00 on saturday. >> and i will be out there with you right before i come into work. so we'll look forward to seeing you there. >>> so we've seen a little bit of snow this winter, but we are about to see a lot more. storm teeam 4 is tracking the timing of the snow that will be here before the end of the week. >>> plus some backlash for tyler perry. why he's being subjected to some every

little krufshlg to it. >> exactly. three cups in there. i cooked and shredded the rotisser rotisserie chickenbit of sesame -- i mean scallions, chopped scallions. you can put anything in here. while i'm mixing i want you to sample. >> 40 people too. >> that is great. >> it's only 270 calories. a serving. and 25 grams of protein. >> what's in our second fridge? >> our second fridge comes from tina carlucci and she's in arlington, virginia. as soon as i saw the cottage cheese, eggs in there, how funny, chinese too, but i didn't use it this time. bananas and whole wheat flour. i thought i have to make breakfast. that's maple syrup and a little better. we're going to make protein-packed banana cheese pancakes. we're starting with two whole eggs and two egg whites for the same reason. you'll put in one cup of cottage cheese. this is a ripe banana that i'm going to put in right here. a little bit of whole wheat flour. there are so many things you can do. a little bit of maple syrup. not on the pancakes, in the pancakes. and a little whipped butter. >> you're not anti-butter. >> no, just a little bi

little room to walk. long lines at the chinese markets and restaurants where people are buying chicken, roast duck and barbecue pork for tonight's dinner. >> for a lot of chinese families today is about decorating and cooking all the prep work like housecleaning and getting the red envelopes ready. those are things that are done a few days before. my mom invited us into her home this afternoon as she was wrapping the food in red paper. pop was busy cleaning the family shrine. he wants to make sure everything is in place for tonight's dinner. in fact, a lot of asian- american parents made sure their kids are coming home. >> kids like it. >> kids, grandkids all together. have to have -- it's a tradition. >> reporter: folks born in the year of the rooster are supposed to be hard workers because they are the first ones to wang and they are always on time apparently. they are the first ones to wake up and apparently they're always on time. da lin, kpix 5. >>> a bay area man goes above and beyond for a complete stranger. >> coming up, the sacrifice he happily is making in order to save another man's life. ,, ,,,,,,

so it's is not chicken or egg but it's a little bit of both working together. >> i agree it's a share of best practices. as i mentioned we calpers work closely with our plans so the pricing was initialled by anthem blue cross of california. we work with insurered and tracking the outcomes in terms the claims to figure out what's happening to a member. >> for us, the health point is point to aco but in a different way. they needed to figure out to get data to aco partners in a way they are oe not used to. i would say the health plans are moving towards more value based purchasing. for some smaller employees that's the avenue they would need to go to enact that. i would put them in -- they will be a key stakeholder in helping us to figure out how to drive more accountability there's no doubt about that. >> following up on that, what about how employees choose health plans. you talk about -- what information does the employee have to make that choice. >> that's a great question, because i think health care community is confusing in terms we throw around don't maybellket of sense to someo

it's not chicken or egg, but it's a little bit of working together. >> i agree, it's a sharing of best practices right now, and as i mentioned they do work closely with our plans so the reference pricing is done through a number of plans both self and stirred and others and they help us track the outcomes so we can figure out what's actually happening to our member. >> it's critically important but in a different way or relationship. they need to figure out how to get data to our partners in a way they're not used to. so it's critically important but in a different way i would say that health plans are moving toward more value -based purchasing and that's the avenue they would need to go through to enact that. i would put them as a key stakeholder for the foreseeable future they will be in helping us figure out how do we drive more accountability. i think there's no doubt about that. >> what about how employees choose health plans. you said you had a choice of three and you talked about two of them, but what information does the employee have to make that choice. >> that's a great ques