. >> let's talk, chien, about software as a service angle. a few years ago amazon basically gave let's say its infrastructure for small to medium sized business to shopify. it was the dumbest thing amazon has done, the smartest thing shopify has done you sound like you've figured out how to help other businesses without giving the the goods tell us how that's worked particularly in asia >> what we've found is that actually this software and entire technology infrastructure that we built is valuable not just to us but to other folks as well we've began licensing it out and working with other gigantic companies as well. starting with asia, in the east and they can use the software and technology we've built we continue to hone it so it's a symbiotic relationship as the software gets better, that helps the benefit of us in the u.s. as well. >> since we've known you for a long time, i need you to think about this i would have thought there would have been fewer redemptions when you did your term for spac i wonder whether you think, geez, maybe an