and some of the china experts we've had on you know that's not the rise of china it's the return of china we just took a break for a while. i think is there finitely to gays but we need a main question is whether china is going to be able to persist with this project of rising of developing and i think here really we see the people's republic of china hitting a lot of curbs what is essential for me in the first place is that its economic growth model has become very and sustainable that most of the decision makers in beijing also know that this is the case they even know what there has to be done to reform and to balance but also most of the decision makers in beijing tell me that there is a problem with the leadership that the leadership is more fragmented than before cannot make it make up its mind about how it wants to implement these changes and that there is and i think this is essentially to stress that there is a growing tendency towards towards nationalism and that of course is going to shape china's position in the global scene it will have more domestic pressures as my my

china's rise you know when does it arrive well china has quite a ways to go in terms of becoming a fully developed country as it self admits i think that jonathan is right that the leadership chooses they have continuity they want stability they have a clearly defined and highly refined foreign policy which basically suggest that what they're mainly concerned about is there are peaceful rise as they describe it but they're china's under a lot of pressure because you see a growing pressure from the united states in particular from japan and from proxy governments or governments who may not consider themselves proxies but may ultimately function that way in the asia pacific so what the foreign policy and what china's orientation is will be largely measured by the pressure it comes under and how it reacts to that ok drew that's a very interesting point because everyone's interacting with everyone else there is that is the pacific really prepared for the rise the the rise of china i mean it's the rise of its military as well we have the american pivot there i mean it is filling up that ocean

well i think the united states is trying to contain china limit china it's trying to move in and really compete aggressively with china i think that's what's happening with the island disputes i think that's what's happening in terms of the the missile defense shield in japan which is nothing other than a prescription for a potential first strike attack against china and i think china perceives it that way that the chinese government and the chinese society in general understands that china's rise is being confronted early on by japan but now principally by the united states what does the united states real agenda i believe that even though they see china as a large and expansive market where you can make mega profits alternately the hostility the decades old hostility of the rule of the chinese communist party in china by washington policymakers as such that the u.s. will form of eventually a sort of a this integrating strategy in china to overthrow replace the chinese communist party using of course some legitimate grievances but ultimately trying to be stabilized china because they t

and only in china, that china theater, the command structure was a mess. no unity of command, and the creator, director of a less a saw the opportunity, so he invested very heavily in the chinese theater, tried to thrive on chaos, which succeeded to some degree. i read this book because i thought this was a very important ankle to illustrate a important aspect of how the u.s. intelligence bureaucracy and how the u.s.-china relationship was formulated, some very complicated land rents a bureaucracy and enter service rivalry. >> professor, the oss role is and during world war ii. >> that oss role in china was, again, very complicated story because oss went to china initially with one single most important mission, to establish an independent intelligence operation free of control by no only the chinese, but also by?? other major players of the u.s.? government, namely the big four? the state d?epartment, the arm, navy cmdr fbi. so it was to prove that he can actually coordinate all the intelligence services above the di

over the south china sea. contested islands include the shoal, the site of a tense standoff this year. but even in the philippines, chinese pressure appears increasingly hard to resist. nhk world's charmaine deogracias reports. >> reporter: this philippine resort rarely accepts chinese anymore. they stopped sending chinese tour groups here, citing safety concerns. philippine banana exports to china have been suspended after china tightened quarantine inspections. it says insects were found in the fruit. the move stoked opposition to china in the philippines. at the u.n. general assembly, the philippine government sought support for its position. >> translator: we believe in mediation and other forms of third-party dispute settlement, including judicial settlement. >> reporter: the philippines started preparing to bring its case to the international tribunal for the law of the sea. but it failed to win international support. the plan risked further provoking china. the philippine government is not proceeding wi

the confirmation the chinese elite will steer china through the next decade. >> china will develop its own type of democracy, whether the west except it or not. >> we speak to henry kissinger in his first television interview since president obama was reelected. >> i think that both obama and xi jinping will have to acts themselves how they expect the relationship to of golf. >> with social media websites going in and out of fashion, we asked the founder of tumblr makes this different. >> it is a delightful surprise when you bumped to a stranger who cares about the same stuff that you do. >> the leadership of the world's second-largest economy is being replaced according to plan. the incoming president will come under increasing internal and external pressure. as hu jintao hangs over to -- hands over to xi jinping, demand for social change, health care, pensions grow louder. hu jintao has said there will be no western-style democracy but how much will the media fuel the continued protests? ♪ ♪ >> there is theater, spectacle, but no drama. embolization is not encourage, nor indeed expre

china's roel in world war ii. >> china's role in world war ii was very complex. first of the entered the world first. most people in china would agree china enter the world war ii way back in 1936 with the 77. but that wasn't recognized or the western scholarship because st people wanted to start off september 31st, 1999. in that sense, china was into the war much longer on the other hand they were fully mechanized by the war which really didn't happen in china per say so the war in china was important to the much larger part of the world only after pearl harbor, so when china, which had been going on for a good part of the four years, suddenly becomes part of the global war and when the officially become allies in the united states most prominently, so there is sort of an active democracy and the axis of evil during world war ii. so, that is the issue. however, china's role in world war ii in theory should be very important because of pre-war because china as well as the united states u.s. to lift the asia first and second strategy which has become a ma

east china sea. south korean president lee myung-bak said he's sure the u.s. and south korea will continue to develop their alliance. australia is another key ally in the region. prime minister julia gillard pledged cooperations during president obama's second term. >> i'd like to welcome president obama my warmest congratulations on his reelection. we've got so much to do together in these years. >> chinese leaders also sent congratulatory messages. yet china's one asian country that might become frustrated with an expanded u.s. presence in the region. chinese have vowed to strengthen their maritime strength. not everyone in the region shared excitement over obama's victory. ahmadinejad accused the election as capitalists. obama wasted no time in showing his continued interest in the region. white house officials announced on thursday the president is expected to attend the east asia summit next week in cambodia. >>> presidential candidates are stepping up their campaigns. the front runner is taking

>> spotlight on china. hundreds of foreign journalists are in beijing for the communist party's congress trying to cover a high-profile political transition that is playing out behind closed doors. welcome to nhk world "newsline." top leaders and officials from across china spent the day mapping out where their country will go over the next five years. the communist party's congress is now well under way. the political transition is both highry controlled and highly secretive. delegates discuss, debate, and make deals. and in the end, they unveil the next generation of leaders who would take power. the 18th congress of the chinese communist party opened thursday. it happens every five years. between now and next week, representatives will be approving new policies and appointing new party leaders. delegates from each of china's provinces held regional discussions friday. they talked about ways to fix the problems they face. nhk world's james tengan is in beijing covering the congress. he told us more about

i know china wants respect.ut whether or not what you are seeing is a strategic or taxable gain by china to use this potential mr. stutzman to look like the unstable part in some of this to help push up the own interest. and that worries me a little bit. >> it is not of domination will respect. it is about whether it will be static or where the agreement will be dynamic. and there is no way that nations are going to agree on what will be the interest. it becomes explosive. >> the issue really is china, india, competing perspectives. i have seen india and china when we went to china in 2004, maybe 2003 today, we are going to talk about hundred 50 billion as the next horizon. this is about drawing the issues. so i think what asia is looking for, is that we can have correlations with each other. without being dictated to. it can be dangerous, but this is the way it is. a dominant element of strategy will not work. a background element is important. it never happened before. it doesn't mean that they aren't going to

>>> spotlight on china. hundreds of foreign journalists are in beijing for the communist party's congress, trying to cover a high-profile political transition that is playing out behind closed doors. welcome to nhk world "newsline." top leaders and officials from across china spent the day mapping out where their country will go over the next five years. the communist party's congress is now well under way. the political transition is both highly controlled and highly secretive. delegates discuss, debate, and make deals. and in the end, they unveil the next generation of leaders who would take power. the 18th congress of the chinese communist party opened thursday. it happens every five years. between now and next week, representatives will be approving new policies and appointing new party leaders. delegates from each of china's provinces held regional discussions friday. they went over the issues they're concerned about and talked about ways to fix the problems they face. nhk world's james tengan is in bei

and china. it is in our interest to be very much present. and so, um, i guess when we switch from the word pivot to rebalance or, kurt, what is it now? >> pirouette. >> okay, good. [laughter] it's a good thing because we need to be, we need to be there, and we need to be supportive. but we need to be very careful not to be seen as somehow egging this situation on, that somehow sharpening the choices for these countries or somehow becoming an element in the debate within, within china. finally, i'd like to say as someone who's spent a little time in some of these other places in the world, richard, you're quite right. we're not going to be disengaged from the middle east or south asia. far from it, we're going to be very engaged. but i hope it will be an engagement of a diplomatic kind and that we won't have a trillion dollars going into iraq again. because if that's what we're looking at, we cannot manage all of these issue, simultaneously. so i think we can be engaged in these other countries a

does china have to back off? can china back off?philippines in japan at least partly to blame? at me, how would the united states act as a neutral, you know, peacekeeper? thank you very much. >> if you can keep your answers short we can get at least one more round. >> a last exercise i do remember we had with the pla military, pla was 2006 i think. are we hopeless on that account? can we have any prospect? i know the atmosphere certainly is not conducive now, but should we be trying to make it that way? >> in reverse order, i think there was one reason u.s.-china exercise in the gulf of aden. is very, very tellingly that's of course what china has not deployed 12 or 13 counter piracy deployments. [inaudible] >> i'm sorry? whatever. my point very kindly, that's far removed him the zones that we are discussing here. but it does indicate at least at some level i think a kind of more of a self-confidence that some of the pla have, perhaps born from their experiences in the counterpiracy operations. that it's not necessarily so noxious o

china is north korea's biggest ally. the economic ties between the two countries, including trade and investment, have strengthened in recent years. north korea wants to rebuild its economy with china's cooperation. attention is focused on when kim will visit china for talks with the new leaders. >>> three israelis have been killed after a rocket fired from gaza hit a building in the south of the country. they're the first casualties there since israel's military carried out an air strike that killed the hamas military commander ahmed jabari. a rocket fired by hamas and palestinian militants hit a residential building in ma la chi about 25 kilometers north of ga gaza. the attack came after israel launched two consecutive days of operations in gaza, killing 11 palestinians, including hamas' military commander and his children. hamas militants have fired over 100 rockets into israel. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu warned that his country is prepared to expand its offensive if necessary. amid rising concern about

in july, china formed a new administrative body that governs the disputed islands in the south china sea. hainan's new ordinance underpins the central government's hard-line strategy. china's top leadership changed hands this month, and the new regime is showing no sign of easing its tough stance on territorial issues involving the philippines and other neighbors. keiichi tanaka, nhk world, manila. >>> malaysia's rule cog ligs has been in power for more than half a century as the country's largest political party, it is supported by the malay ethnic majority. but it is feeling pressure as general elections are expected early next year. at a convention on thursday, the prime minister lashed out at the opposition. and here's the hands-on report from shi ka shi takaoka. >>>. >> reporter: many people who listened to the prime minister's speech felt the ruling coalition's sense of crisis. malaysia enjoyed steady economic growth under the strong leadership of the former prime minister who took office in 1981. such growth led the country to be dubbed the model student of southeast asia. the

it wrangled with asian nations over control of islands in the south china sea and east china sea. >> reporter: the congress opened thursday morning in beijing's great hall of the people. it's about a ten-minute drive from our studios. i went there to watch it unfold. 2,300 delegates from across the country gathered inside the great hall of the people. >> reporter: president hu jintao is now in the midst of giving a work report on past achievements and future goals. >> translator: the communist party has united all ethnic groups across the country and led the people. we have also transformed the old, underdeveloped china into a new china that is prospering every day, but we have to realize there is room for improvement in our work. the unbalance of development and the lack of sustainability are still evident. there are many obstacles -- the disparity between urban and rural areas is wide, the gap in income distribution remains large, and corruption is still a problem. >> reporter: hu spoke for about 90 minutes. he laid out an economic challenge for china. >> translator: let's work tog

one of them is their stance on china. some americans consider the world's second largest economy a threat. obama and romney have tried to reflect that sentiment, but as nhk world's susumu kojima tells us, campaign sound bites don't necessarily tell the full story. >> reporter: the employees in wisconsin know the pressures of their industry all too well. they watched colleague after colleague lose it because of competition from chinese factories. chinese companies break trade rules by setting imports at a loss, which pushed him to slash his workforce and hold off on expansion plans. >> any type of elected official should stand up for a level playing field. we're not asking for anything more. >> reporter: a recent study by the pew research center said many americans consider being tough with the chinese on economic issues an important priority. barack obama has promised american voters he will make china play by the rules. >> we're organizing trade relations with countries other than china so that china starts feeling more

made in china china. translated into massive profits for china as well as criticism now this comes amid growing concern that china is using its economic clout for political lever. different. try not is a very promising country i'm sure you pump your top with us twenty trying less than five the i.m.f. says china could surpass the us economically in real terms by twenty sixteen it may not help the countless chinese who live in poverty but it sure makes rivals nervous china's economic clout has grown it is now the second largest economy in the world it's the second largest manufacturing exporter in the rimini the trainees currency is playing an increasingly important role in the world economy so there is a shift in relative economic might in the world that might have been threatened by the slowdown and it will go up to china's new leaders to try to reverse the trend for now they seem to be getting their way china is inching into europe to snap up ailing businesses this french vineyard is just one of the casu

, diplomatic openings that only those who want to recognize china will abide by the one china policy. the opening of the economic doors which have taken china from a relatively small economy to the second-largest in the world today comment and primacy of the party with its eighty million members and three thousand nine hundred outposts around the country which still lives on today. and then paying rising to power, the party mantle and soon the military and the presidency and before him will be new questions, much different from the ones that he was responsible for addressing and acting upon. and quote there will be questions like is china more repressive at home today than in earlier years? is china more nationalistic in terms of its economic practice particularly among state-owned enterprises? has china become more assertive internationally? i would argue each of these questions carry fairly profound rule of law implications of. so as yung chao ping rises to take the top position in china and wrestles with new challenges and intends to answer new questions on would argue many of them

and america which doesn't like this growth of china and. miscalculations are of course possible i hope it will happen especially in the nuclear age but still we can expect tensions to continue what russia is is china getting more who are dependent on the resources well and specifically on the imported russian resources i strongly suspect that russia is the last country which among the big companies which are which china's concerned about is not getting seriously dependent on us they always try to keep some kind of ten percent or fifteen percent limit on for every concrete iran the rush because of style maybe so you know they're trying to diminish the use of foreign sources sokol going to diminish use of energy that we're going to expend to increase energy efficiency that's what they're trying to do to spare to use less oil and to upkeep the nature if you can read out anything interesting about this congress which is going on the earth in the now and the about to be ended their green program. again but i want to stress that of course russian

china sea. the united states called on the parties to sign up to a legally binding code of conduct, or coc. china said the disputes should not be internationalized, an indirect reference to the united states. u.s. president barack obama and chinese premier wen jiabao held bilateral talks before the summit began on tuesday. they both seek closer ties with southeast asian countries as part of their competing regional strategies. >> it's important that our two countries cooperate to build a more secure and prosperous future for the asia-pacific region and for the world. >> despite their friendly words, both sides took their differences with them to the east asia summit. obama called on the country's concern to quickly draw up the code of conduct. one indirectly said the united states should not be involved, stating that the disputes should not be internationalized. now, obama's trip to asia is a sign that america's so-called pivot to asia strategy remains unchanged after his re-election. his visit

south china sea and east china sea. in my view, these developments since the spring of 2012 have validated a more forward leaning military establishment, though it is still obviously the dutiful servant of the party leadership to be sure. much of what we have observed in both of these domains has been with the activation of the different kinds of maritime capabilities, the white hole chips, not the gray old ships. but these have quite simply redefined status quo off the coast of china. we now see whether with regard to the scarborough shores in the philippines or the condos, what we see is a permanent or ongoing chinese military presence or maritime presence in those domains. affect the control of scarborough sure by china and surrounding waters and with respect i can only quote from a foreign ministry spokesman on october 31st, he stated unequivocally, a fundamental change has already occurred in the di ui in linz. we now see daily patrols in nearby ships in nearby waters, suggesting to me that in an ironic way, this h

richard mcgregor tell me, where does china go from here? and what are the questions we should be asking about the new leadership, both in terms of xi jinping and the standing committee? >> well, the first thing is to assess what kind of body the new standing committee is and in many respects, ostensibly it is quite disappointing some of the people we would consider to be more liberal, i mean it is very hard to categorize people in china as reform mist and conservatives but, which are rubbery term but some of the more liberal and nationally minded people did not get on and that would be disappointing for many people. the second thing is, you know exactly what, you know, political personnel xi jinping has and exactly what power will he have as an individual as general secretary of the party and that might be answered for at least, may not be answered for one or two years. one thing we can say about xi jinping it will be a vastly superior representative of china on the world stage than huh engine too his predecessor, he also zoomed seemed to h

under their watch, china has risen so fast that this century is often called china's century. an authoritarian model of the future. many in china, however, were not so confident. the new leadership, rubber stamp, will be unveiled to the world tomorrow with a question, can it continue to keep china's 1.3 billion people excluded from power? there is no sign that the party is willing to engage with those who want real change, like the nobel peace prize winner from china. he remains in this jail for calling for reform. >> people want more reform. people want democracy and freedom. for example, in the constitution it says that people have the right to freedom of speech, freedom of publication, freedom of a lot of things. and yet it is hard. >> calling for more freedom, the people have expelled corrupt communist officials. the revolt caught the imagination of many. i and the end, the communist party conceded, giving the villagers a rare vote to choose new officials. now, the party is considering reform, looking beyond china singapore has become wealthy by keeping a system where one

the highest quality china companies, china mobile, several chinese banks, petro china, huge oil companiesght about the stabilization, the fxi should go higher, possibly much higher. it pays you to wait. what more can you ask for, honestly? the bottom line, the macro and the micro from individual companies that do business in china are saying the same thing. chinese economy is stabilizing right here. they have inflation whipped. 2013 should be better for the people's republic than 2012. china's small bore stimulus is working and the best way to play it is with the fxi. i'm going to ron in california right now. ron? >> caller: big boo-yah, too you, jim from south orange county, california. >> man, i love south orange county. i love the university system down there, too. i like irvine. >> caller: before i get started, i just want to say that we're thinking about you and your family and for that matter everybody in the studio audience and their family, hope everybody came out okay in that horrible storm. >> we got lucky. others are not. i know they appreciate your thoughts. thank you. >> call

and some of the china experts if i don't see you know that's not the rise of china it's the return of china we just took a break for a while. i think is there for me to gaze between me to main question is whether china is going to be able to persist with this project of rising of developing and i think you're really receded people's republic of china hitting a lot of curbs what is essential for me in the first place is that it's economic growth model has become very and sustainable that most.

it is about china. even if all the briefings, china is never mentioned, it is about china. i am not sure what is being applied. i've been involved in this relationship for over three decades. i cannot recall a time when it was easy or without substantial corrections. in the 1980's when we were both transfixed by the soviet threat but at no time since then has there been an across the board cooperation. that is not to say that i am not concerned about some aspects of the relationship right now. i do not see it as beyond the capacity of our leaders to manage issues in a way that allowed the corporate developments to remain substantial and to avoid conflict. perhaps that is not enough for people who do not like to live with uncertainty or the relationships that do not fall neatly into the category of ally or enemy. it is good thing about this in the real world. what are the chief characteristics of a relationship at the moment when president obama and the general secretary will be dealing with in the months or years to come? as secretary clinton said a few months ago, we are i

china town, according to the element in the general plan has china town as high need neighborhood. that mean with list open space per capita in america we have a big population of families with children and senior population with 90%. that means what we have is what we have. and also immigrant and low income community i think is understatement. if i continue to say how much open space we need and how much improvement we need. but i think the good thing about what's before us is we finally have the opportunity to turn policy into outcome. so i ask you to support that. i also want to commend the department. china town development center. really enjoy working with this department. we have a great relationship working with the community. the people. many more. appreciate the respect and sensitivity to the neighborhood. and work collaboratively with the neighborhoods. whether from open space or library to chinese rec center. obama says the best is yet to come. we are looking forward to improving in this part. thans. >> thank you. >> any other public comment on this item? being none publ

in china, the party decides. the public has no say. the future of a billion-plus people will be decided by just a handful of men. this woman says that president hu has done a great job and she is confident he will pick the right successor. but this man does not want to talk about politics. he says he will get in trouble as soon as we leave. it is a reminder that despite all the remarkable changes, china remains and authoritarians state. but with growing expectations but -- communist party was under great pressure to deliver. china may be richer that was 10 years ago but it is not necessarily better off. there is growing public resentment here over the official corruption and the yawning gap between rich and poor and how the new leader's address these issues were -- will almost certainly defined a decade in power. bbc news, beijing. >> the congress here is a carefully choreographed event with the media and internet tightly controlled. human-rights groups say more than 100 dissidents have been illegally detained or placed under house arr

from china.rse, repairs took a look at this broken club and realized right away it was fake. >> but fake golf clubs don't begin to suggest the enormity of the problem. >> we have never seen a problem of this size and magnitude in world history. >> now, hang on. in world history. >> there's more counterfeiting going on in china now than we've ever seen anywhere. >> dan chow should know. a law professor at ohio state university, his specialty is chinese counterfeiting. we know that 15% to 20% of all goods in china are counterfeit. >> and these days, the way china's economy is booming, 15% to 20% means tens of billions of dollars. evidence of the counterfeiting trade can be seen at this hong kong warehouse where counterfeit watches, shoes, computer chips, all copied in china, and seized in hong kong, are tossed onto a conveyor belt, and consigned to the dust bin of history. but it's like stopping the rain, the seizure may look impressive, but every day, 6,000 shipping containers leave hong kong's ha

it matters to our children if china -- how china uses its power. and so, the greatest stake we have the greatest outside our own borders, the greatest stake we have in the conditions for our children and grandchildren is our relationship with china. >> so this then is a very timely and important book. "china airborne" by james fallows. thank you very much for being with me. >> thank you so much, bill. >> that's it for this week. naomi klein will join me next week. she's the author of the seminal book, "the shock doctrine," on the crisis of capitalism that we're seeing play out today. meanwhile, at our website, billmoyers.com, we asked some of our past guests for their quick visceral reaction to president obama's reelection and what it might mean for america. andrew bacevich, simon johnson and barbara ehrenreich are among those who contributed. now it's your turn. read their entries and send us yours. that's at billmoyers.com. i'll see you there and i'll see you here, next time. >>> don't wait a week to get more moyers. visit billmoyers.com for excl