china and this will eventually damage the interests of china the u.s. and the whole world. let's go live to victor gao a director of the china at national association of international studies thank you for joining us on the program what do you make of all these new u.s. sanctions against chinese citizens and entities. well 1st of all channel u.s. relations have never been as bad as it is for the last 41 years secondly the reason to do 2 aeration in china u.s. relations is very much cost of mind of cars made by president trump and his followers in the us administration both china and the united states told the chant his people and the american people have been victims of such close knit of relations between china and the united states the 3rd point is that good riddance president trump and his senior officials are leaving very slim and this crew mates are very rare opportunity for china and the united states under presidents of biden to reset their relations after all i firmly believe the chinese people are not enemies of the american people and china is not an enemy of the united states therefore i believe china and the united states need to figure out a way to get

tech blockage against china and this will eventually damage the interests of china the us and the whole world of its again whole thing china national association of international study says that the trunk of ministrations attacks on beijing are misguided reason to do to ration in china u.s. relations is very much caused by the poisoning by president trump and his followers in the us administration if you listen to what president trump and his government have been saying how much do you really give credit as to what they say how much trouble there is it whatever they are at 30 i think there is not a lot of hours or days of misrepresentation of distortion because they are afraid of the larger china but the rise of china is a megatrend that you cannot stop child but will be larger than the united states but a larger china doesn't make china and enemy of the united states why should we minimize exchanges of ideas people goods services between china and the united states that your largest economies in the world's any minimization of this hurts the americans as much as the heart the chinese people president by that will be a better president for them president trump

china and this will eventually damage the interests of china the u.s. and the whole world back together think china national association of international studies says the trumpet ministrations attacks on beijing are misguided. recent it due to religion in china u.s. relations is very much caused by the poisoning by president trump and his followers in the us administration if you listen to what president trumpet as government have been saying how much do you really give credit as to what they say how much trouble there is it whatever they are up 30 i think there is not a lot of calls for a lot of misrepresentation lots of distortion because they are afraid of a larger china but the rise of china is a mega trends that you cannot stop child but will be larger than the united states but a larger china doesn't make china and enemy of the united states why should we minimize exchanges of ideas all good services between china and the united states that your largest economies in the world's any minimization of this courage the americans as much as the heart the chinese president i do will be a better president for them president trump i hope he and his governm

china? >> as the national security advisor, the one problem associated with china i spent most of my career across in south asia so obviously as a military officer and as a student of internationals, i had followed the shift in the approach from opening up and performing movement and i think this is when it was discernible that china was going to be more aggressive. i think you can go back to the george w. bush administration. dan covers this in the book if this was a military competition. i think it is the largest in history, it's an 800% increase in the defense budget since the mid-90s. there were those who were aware of it and those that tried to raise the alarm bells i think but it all kind of came to a head by 2017 we had clung onto the wishful thinking for far too long especially in connection with the aggressive action in the south china sea and it goes back especially may be to the financial crisis of 2008. this is when china was emboldened and thought they had some things to teach them before that and when they saw the financial crisis they thought maybe our system is better. i had the privilege of coming to the administration at this great point and president trump had

. >> as a national security advisor to be associated with china spending my career in europe and south asia. as a military officer and a student of international relations and then to have the reform movement if that is and discernible that china would be more aggressive. going back to the was a military competition. with the hundred percent increase since the mid- nineties. they were little bit ahead. and from the responsible stakeholder speech that is criticized to become a responsible stakeholder and then also laid out and those that are aware of it in those certainly it all came to a head on 2017 especially in connection with the south china sea and then it goes back to the financial crisis when china was emboldened and to have some things to teach them as other financial crisis they thought maybe they would be more aggressive. but then right at the breakpoint president trump had run on the china position already and of the national security council i had a couple of excerpts in the fundamental assumption and with that governance to hold true and with that british foreign policy since the end of the cold war. and with that bipartisan appro