russia france the u.k. china germany and iran back in two thousand and fifteen it followed nine years of talks and a decade of standoff which many viewed at the time as one of the world's most pressing issues now the international atomic agency that's been monitoring iran's compliance with the deal says tehran has been keeping its side of the bargain of included shipping enriched uranium to russia mothballing thousands of centrifuges and removing the core from a reactor at a key nuclear facility and u.s. officials also backed the view iran has been good to its would while the european colleagues think trumps simply wrong on the issue. brawn is in technical compliance so the agreement iran is not in material breach of the agreement i do believe the agreement to be there is delayed the development of a nuclear capability but. the signals we're getting from the united states are that the president will explain to the senate that in his view the nuclear agreement with iran is not being fulfilled this is contrary to t

russia china britain or france. russia says it hopes the u.s. will make a balanced decision on whether to remain engaged in the landmark international deal to curb iran's nuclear program president from persecuted iran of not living up to the spirit of the twenty fifteen deal and is expected to refuse to endorse it next week we must not allow iran to obtain to obtain nuclear weapons the iranian regime supports terrorism and exports violence bloodshed and chaos across the middle east that is why we must put an end to iran's continued aggression and nuclear ambitions they have not lived up to the spirit of their agreement. well that nuclear deal was described as a win win by many when it was approved two years ago during the barack obama administration it was signed by iran the u.s. russia china france the u.k. and germany it stops iran from producing materials that could be used for nuclear weapons now in turn economic penalties and embargoed against iran with an lifted the agreement must be certified by the u.s. president every ninety days the ne

borders of k at the north korea, china, russia, you are your three big players, u.s., china and russia, everyone has special interest. if we went into a war, i'm oncerned american people don't realize what that entails. is groundlogy war, it troops, it will take that. i remember growing up as a to talk about d if the red chinese ever marched on america, we are in trouble. from different nations, whether the u.s., whether president trump or it ia or whatever, look at like this, it's a five-car stud poker game. has their interest, some are bluffing, some got the just trying tore hold on and see if they can get a better deal, a new car. got to look at, it's a poker game we're playing here. host: richard, thank you. yes, as secretary of defense mattis and chairman of joint chiefs have been saying, a war on the peninsula would be horrendous. when i was in government, we did war games and table-top always s, the alliance won, with hundreds of thousands of casualties, and that was knew they had nuclear weapons. the pentagon is estimating 20,000 deaths everyday in a conflict with north korea f

all of a sudden this puts us in a situation where while the united states had worked with china, russian environment of crippling sanctions that forced iran to the table, the irony of this is that if we were to walk away and britain, france, germany, china, russia, other countries remain connected to iran, the united states is now the isolated party, not iran being the isolated party. maybe that's donald trump's purpose, but it has an odd consequence that it really undermines the faith and trust that some of our allies had in working with us in putting this deal together. >> and steve, the trump administration is saying that the iran deal is not legally binding. should congress get more involved in u.s. nuclear policy? and if so, what can they do? >> look, i'm a fan, honestly, just across the board of congress having oversight on a lot of issues, including this, of being involved. it's just important to create, i think, a constructive engagement, a constructive oversight. it is technically true that the iran deal is not necessarily legally binding, other than the fact that our behaviors

dollar and they want to split off they want their autonomy in china wants autonomy russia wants autonomy iran wants autonomy they want they don't want to be ruled over by the u.s. dollar anymore so this gives them away this this this contract futures contract based in un for oil convertible into gold means that these countries can finally in a spin in place since the end of world war two escaped the brentwood u.s. dollar had germany empire of date supremacy world reserve currency that is the u.s. dollar and we're in the new new beginning i think is there anything then that the u.s. can do about this because it's not going to be happy that it's going to lose the petro dollars would you expect it to fight back. well they're exactly right they will fight back they will start a war you know maybe they'll start a war between japan and china you know maybe they'll start a war with north korea you know america will do anything to keep the us dollar as world reserve currency they will invade a country like afghanistan they owe those stop at nothing because this is the basis of the us empire it's

negotiated back in two thousand and fifteen by the us britain france and germany along with russia and china it is crippling economic sanctions against iran and exchange for strict controls on its nuclear program now trump is threatening to make good on a long running promise to unravel the accord has a bit more of what he had to say. in just a few years as key restrictions disappear iran can sprint towards a rapid nuclear weapons breakout in other words we got we can spec sions in exchange for no more than a purely short term and temporary delay in iran's path to nuclear weapons what is the purpose of a deal that at best only delays a ran's nuclear capability for a short period of time this as president of the united states is unacceptable but based on the factual record i have put forward i am announcing today that we cannot and will not make this certification. well from all of this i'm joined now by dr henning from the german council on foreign relations after we give thanks for being with us today on the day this is a deal that germany helped hammer out with britain france china russia

nuclear weapons adopted by one hundred twenty two nations it doesn't include the united states russia china britain or france. russia says it hopes the u.s. will make a quote balanced decision on whether to remain engaged in the land while international deal to curb iran's nuclear program president from prosecution iran of not living up to the spirit of the twenty fifteen deal as expected to refuse to endorse it next week we must not allow iran to obtain to obtain nuclear weapons the iranian regime supports terrorism and exports violence bloodshed and chaos across the middle east that is why we must put an end to iran's continued aggression and nuclear ambitions they have not lived up to the spirit of their agreement. practical way and as more now from washington. just saw twenty four hours ago secretary of defense jim mattis tell the u.s. congress that he thinks that it's in the u.s. national security interest to stay in the iran deal and at the time that many people thought he was speaking to an audience of one president donald trump but if you really look back in now with this reporting

just take russia china and iran if you believe the media hype they've all been at it at some time or another in russia skase this turned out to be fake news and the story was retracted the other must have been any hackers to the power grid story the disclaimer there is no certainty the state actor was behind it it's based on unnamed sources and there's no evidence the alleged attack actually had any impact the tax was allegedly from china russian group of chinese believed to be state sponsored hackers why we see the evidence that way by alleged chinese hackers first reported the attack citing anonymous sources the systems were not breached let's look at enemy number two iran yes will soon be hearing headlines about hackers from iran gearing up for an attack oh wait wait a minute we already did there is a template. there is a story line and you say either put in north korea or china russia just put it is nobody's going to ask the why should the north korean hackers russian hackers did this no damage and then at the end bring in the kim jong on and mend missiles and that sort of thing t

who's the bigger threat, russia or china and he said russia but he wouldn't tell me why. the reason is they are building their capabilities on the soviet past as a major nuclear power, they had a tremendous technology base. they've now emerged as the key players in the round. they are going in and using these cyber capabilities began as what they see as the main threat under vladimir putin. it's the cyber operations in more of those are as recent as two weeks ago with an indictment against the russian hackers and intelligence officers involved in the yahoo! attack. >> host: i know we've talking debate talked about the cyber warfare but they allow us to implement information operations and information warfare. i wanted the russian federation in 2013 he said coming into this is in your book the war with nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown and in many cases exceeded the power to forc of fh weapons in the effectiveness. i think as we are looking at russia's increasing influence particularly when it comes to undermining the nato allies, we se

has been less than enthusiastic the iran deal took more than a decade to negotiate between iran china russia great britain france and germany and risk finally signed in two thousand and fifteen. there was dancing in the streets of the iranian capital tehran when the agreement was finally reached after the mess of effort that went into securing the deal to control iran's nuclear program those who'd been instrumental in the negotiations reacted strongly to trump's announcement. more than two years ago exactly in july twenty fifteen the entire international community welcomed the result of twelve years of intense negotiations on the iranian nuclear program one hundred and four pages full of technical details. the joint compressive club in action discipula a it is not a bilateral agreement it does not belong to any single country and it is not up to any single country to terminate it german foreign minister gabriele said scrapping the treaty would send a quote dangerous signal shouted in the next few weeks we'll do everything in our power to persuade u.s. congress to uphold the agreement and to

frustrated by overtime was that you have a security council, five permanent members including china, russiarance the united kingdom, who are essentially responsible for maintaining peace and security the world. if they cannot agree it means the situations continue. they can put enormous pressure on countries through sanctions ta ken place pressure on countries through sanctions taken place but they can also ensure humanitarian access for people, work with the countries in the region and the rohingya have a right of return. 0ne the region and the rohingya have a right of return. one of the big challenges is you have a constitution which doesn't actually recognise the rohingya as being citizens of myanmar. this is something that needs to change and more pressure needs to be put on the government to ensure they take their responsibilities seriously. we have talked about myanmar and syria, are there any other crises which are keeping you up at night or something you discuss with your students? one thing about our students is they ca re thing about our students is they care about the world and w

europe, china, russia, the rest of the world want this deal to stay, it is the us pulling out of it.s time for the sport, here is hugh ferris. it has been a dramatic ten days or so it has been a dramatic ten days or so of international football but if you have missed the premier league, what better president than to liverpool against manchester united —— what better president than? both managers have been speaking, jurgen klopp has said it is one of the most special games in world football and jose mourinho, his united team are second only on goal difference, and he's excited about the trip to anfield. we go to play against a big tea m anfield. we go to play against a big team with a big tradition in an amazing stadium with great tradition. we know that the fans, they have huge animosity against manchester united historically, but this is what we want. so we are very happy to have one more opportunity in our careers to play in this beautiful conditions. it is beautiful conditions. it is beautiful to play at anfield, beautiful. disrespectful and the is have tottenham manager moritz yo

hope to listen and talk about and maybe even get all the powers that are have an interest there china russia india pakistan to work to come up with a solution that ends the fighting in afghanistan i must tell you can't just blame pakistan obviously on what's happening in afghanistan i mean afghanistan has got a problem with its weak leadership for example you can bomb the taliban to the table. you know what yes there are some there are internal problems and these problems are can be anywhere i mean any country will have any of these problems we do face problems here but the leadership in the government governance structures are weak and that the problem within the security sector the corruption is an issue that has been raised time and again but then. the narrative of the discourse which is in here is that this is the conflict the war of the militancy is the behind all these problems that the government of afghanistan has not been able to really put push the agenda for reforms forward. it can be either way i mean a chicken and egg issue you can you can say that we have support of our neighbo

china russia germany france the u.k. and the european union put their name to it obama's success a u.s. president donald trump has never made any secret of his opposition to the agreement and here was one of the worst and most one sided transactions the united states has ever entered into frankly that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don't think you've heard the last of it believe me. under the twenty fifteen deal iran was to limit the scope of its nuclear program and specifically its enrichment of uranium in exchange for the easing of international sanctions against iran some in trump's own administration say the agreement is working and they oppose dumping the deal out right if we can confirm that iran is living by the agreement if we can determine that this is in our best interests then clearly we should stay with it i believe at this point in time indications to the contrary is something the president should consider staying where. the international atomic energy agency says iran stocks of heavy wa

nuclear treaty were boycotted by the americans but the other nuclear weapons states britain france china russia israel india and pakistan also say they won't sign the message we are sending is to remind them of the commitments that they have already made that say also are obliged to work for nuclear free world. these weapons of fire and fury have not been used in anger since one thousand nine hundred forty five but the haunting images of hiroshima and nagasaki still testament to their horror to be phillips al-jazeera london or i still ahead on the program power of the people we report from puerto rico on how communities are coming together to rebuild their lives to harken maria. and one hundred sixty art galleries all under one roof we showcase the best of london's.

china russia germany france the u.k. and the european union put their name to it obama's success or u.s. president donald trump has never made any secret of his opposition to the agreement and you know was one of the worst and most one sided transactions the united states has ever entered and frankly that deal is an embarrassment to the united states and i don't think you've heard the last of it believe me. under the twenty fifteen deal iran was to limit the scope of its nuclear program and specifically its enrichment of uranium in exchange for the easing of international sanctions against iran some in trump's own administration say the agreement is working and they oppose dumping the deal out right if we can confirm that iran is living by the agreement if we can determine that this is in our best interests then clearly we should stay with it i believe at this point in time absent indications to the contrary it is something the president should consider staying where. the international atomic energy agency says iran stoc

path forward unless you brought the entire world together to cripple iran economically and get china and russia on our side, which we did read we are not taking that approach with north -- which we did. we are not taking that approach with north korea. maybe china is or is not helping. china and russia are sitting there, like france, england and germany, wondering if they can depend on and trust donald trump in arrangement in dealing with north korea and calculating their interests, which are different than ours. i have no argument about the feared threat of north korea. i have arguments about with the proper strategic approaches to get to a win to get north korea to a different place and we are not doing this, with the exception of i am pleased with what rex tillerson is doing in some elements of direct talks with north korea. host: is kim jong-un stable? guest: yes. he is a shrewd, extortionist leader. i do not believe he is suicidal. i think he is a monster, and we have not really developed a pathway for many years, but he lives through threatening the rest of the world and trying to extort

russia china france the u.k. and germany it stops iran from producing materials that could be used for nuclear weapons in turn economic penalties and embargoed against iran will lifted the agreement must be certified by the u.s. president every ninety days the next deadline october the fifteenth if the u.s. president decertify is the deal it would give congress sixty days to review if sanctions should be reinstated the deal won't necessarily be cancelled even if it is decertified by mr trump but it could isolate the u.s. from its negotiating partners iran says it could have abandoned the deal if the u.s. with tools tom ackerman is in washington for us tom what's your sense as to what mr trump is going to do. well actually he knows for sure the president is given to what might be called mercurial impulses and so we don't know for sure he does have a speech tentatively scheduled for sometime next week shortly before the or on or before the next certification date now his administration twice has already certified t

happen now there are clearly other countries who are involved in putting that agreement together china russia france germany the u.k. so they're all involved of course but i'm interested in in understanding how tehran might react to the president's move if he decides to decertify iran said at the u.n. last month the president saying that iran will respond to any violation of the agreement what sort of response might we anticipate from iran. but i think he runs a risk on schools who think we also depend on how you respond if he you abide by prompts the bad. shows it to be i admit that i think you will have one response from iran but on the other hand if you have an e.u. that stands up to thompson and we negotiated this as we would it is not in place where you side stepped on to this is so obvious that we will not allow you to go beyond that i think your response was. somewhat different so a lot that has to what happened in the vote without a doubt every step that is taken to dismantle me that will be met in teheran by step of it ok professor thank you so much for professor mohammad marandi of

will be going of course against russia and china but when has the united states ever cared about incurring anger from two nuclear armed superpowers and it means that the only country in the world that they'll be on the side of is of course the israeli regime of benjamin netanyahu so if trump does go through with it it means he'll be isolated from many voices in his own internal washington circle and from his own allies but whether he actually pulls the trigger or not in some ways the more people say he's going to do it the more i'm inclined to say it's really a coin toss at this point well let's have a look at the consequences that i what you think they would be if the u.s. were to break the sale i mean what do you think this would do for security within that region. well in the short term it would show that the united states is a totally unreliable negotiating partner for everyone and anyone but north korea of course comes up in that context particularly and so said the german foreign minister to seek more gabrial in terms of the wider conflicts if the u.s. really wants to launch another

kingdom of saudi arabia as the number one supplier particularly with the new pipelines that russia just put in to china so really this is a whole realignment that say who is going to supply the world's number one importer of oil it looks like saudi arabia and russia decided to shake hands on that which means i think there's a better chance of the cuts actually coming through what do you think about people who are watching these two countries as a competitor as even partners and watching and engaging their reactions to the product of this meeting a lot of deals we're talking weapons energy oil safety it go is it runs the gamut. absolutely we had agriculture was in the deal information technology weapon systems they need to deal on the s four hundred which is the top of the line aircraft system and antitank missiles as well those are not things that i would expect russia to be supplying to the kingdom of saudi arabia if they were still going to be on opposite sides of the conflict in syria so that's a giant realignment right there but i think the most surprising thing was they actually talked about suppl

that truck it there'd be one need more transparency you're going disclosure i mean regulators china russia south korea they're concerned about a couple things one i like to think they're concerned about what i've always been concerned about about consumers but they're also concerned about taxes and so if they see that digital currencies are a way to avoid collecting taxes and revenues for their nation they're also going to stop it just why some of them like ecuador want to have their own digital currency and ban everything else so one they need to embrace regulation to a certain extent to they need to actually i think a coin needs. be based on something physical i don't know if it's oil or if it's what we or gold think i'll ever be like that i do matter fact i know that it's cold there i think that and the breaking news i know it's coming i know i speak with people all the time i'm going to talk about this in hong kong at a speech in a couple weeks it's happening and the third thing so regulation based upon something and the third thing is it needs to be fungible you need to be able to use

nuclear weapons adopted by one hundred twenty two nations it doesn't include the united states russia china britain or france well though this week icon's executive director tweeted that donald trump was a moron speaking after the award she was more diplomatic the election of president donald trump has made a lot of people feel very uncomfortable with the fact that he alone can authorize the use of nuclear weapons and there's nothing people can do to stop him. or you can be with a tweet. who seems to be taking rational decisions very quickly. and it's sort of not listening to expertise is it just puts a spotlight on a spotlight on what this nuclear weapons really mean. there are no right hands whether for the wrong weapons or u.s. president donald trump plan to decertify the iranian nuclear deal has been criticized by many governments the european commission says iran is complying with the agreement and that all sides should stick to their commitments russia's foreign minister is also supporting the deal from washington d.c. told markham and reports. in typical style the u.s. president heig

anything surprising about what russia is doing, what china is doing, the expansionism from china, russia's move into perception management and managing their reputation, anything surprising to you? >> i will start by going to something that i recently read in a book by graham allison which reminded me. this is not new. this has been going on since recorded history that you have one group in power and another group starts to spin off. can they work out an accommodation to share the planet together or not? i think that where we are with the hegemon of these other great, what i will call aggressive powers, because they are clearly aggressive ,putin is a person that many people think about and many have forgotten that putin has not forgotten and we divided the ussr worked hard to undermine russian influence with the cia for confederate states after the law came down and all that. so is it surprising that we have a side war operation going on against the united states of america and our free democratic, open society which is about as exposed to anything anyone wants to put out there and social